College Hoops Around The Country [TN opponents, RPI, others]

[hUTch2002]

Wasn't referring to our chances at a 1 seed. That ship sailed a while ago. Pretty clear Florida will grab the final 1 seed. After today, Bama will jump us in the 2 seed category. Depending on how we perform in the SECT, we might end up as the third or fourth 2 seed in the NCAAT.

It’s possible but unlikely. We have a better record, better NET, better kenpom and beat them h2h. They have a slightly tougher schedule and better Q1+2 record as they have a few more Q2 games than we do. I really hate that metric though so I hope it doesn’t carry much weight with the committee as you can’t put Q1 and Q2 on equal footing. Now if we lose Friday and they’re still playing Sunday, I might think Bama could jump us.

 

[hUTch2002]

Being that top 2 vs the second 2 could be important as the Midwest looks easier than the East based on all the projections I’ve seen. Of course we won’t know for sure until next Sunday.

 

[Volprofch05]

 

[Anti-shunshinepumper]

Michigan State is going to be a problem again this year. A bit undersized, but they can score.

 

[Anti-shunshinepumper]

Houston under Sampson is the same every year. A grind it out team that plays great defense and just scores enough to win. Houston never looks impressive, they just win.

That's great and all, but these teams aren't championship teams. Reminds me a lot of us. Potentially can beat anyone but not likely to win it all.
Maybe he builds one that can go all the way in the future.

 

[knoxvol52]

Good luck to ever who draws Michigan State in their Bracket. Izzo has these guys rolling ..

 

[Sudden Impact]

Tournament NCAA is a where the reset button is hit. We all know that.
SEC Tournament is just a continuation of a physical conference schedule
With the games played most committee members 80% have determined the top 16 of which 85% have determined their order of seeding.
Tennessee will be a 2 seed, Alabama will be a 2 seed, Florida and Auburn will be 1 seeds. Houston and Duke with be the other 1 seeds.
Sleeper but Not a real Sleeper is Michigan St. Running low on the radar until late. Another is St John's.

 

[VolPack22]

Good luck to ever who draws Michigan State in their Bracket. Izzo has these guys rolling ..

I suspect it would probably be Florida? And Auburn would get St. John’s?

 

[Anti-shunshinepumper]

Tournament NCAA is a where the reset button is hit. We all know that.
SEC Tournament is just a continuation of a physical conference schedule
With the games played most committee members 80% have determined the top 16 of which 85% have determined their order of seeding.
Tennessee will be a 2 seed, Alabama will be a 2 seed, Florida and Auburn will be 1 seeds. Houston and Duke with be the other 1 seeds.
Sleeper but Not a real Sleeper is Michigan St. Running low on the radar until late. Another is St John's.

Everybody knows that. What we waiting on is position in seeding. It can and does matter

 

[Sudden Impact]

Everybody knows that. What we waiting on is position in seeding. It can and does matter

I agree but everybody does not know that.
Position and bracket balance does not always happen in accordance to what you expect.
Tennessee will more than likely be paired up with Duke or Houston? My guess is Duke which would not be about position in seeding.

 

[Anti-shunshinepumper]

I agree but everybody does not know that.
Position and bracket balance does not always happen in accordance to what you expect.
Tennessee will more than likely be paired up with Duke or Houston? My guess is Duke which would not be about position in seeding.

We all know what you stated about the committee. The only possible move on the #1 and #2 line is St. John.
If they win their conference, and Texas Tech craps the bed first game of their conference tournament, then there is a chance St. John can bump up to the 2 line.
None of the #1 projected are moving (Auburn, Duke, Florida, Houston). Michigan State will not be a #1 seed.
On the #2 line Tennessee, Alabama, Michigan State....none of them are moving off that #2 line.

 

[VolCalls]

Houston has played 1 game where they gave up 70 points and won (@Kansas). And they should have lost that game.

I think you have to be able to play and win at more than one speed to win the whole thing.

They are as physical as anyone in the country. They were my pick last year and I believe they would’ve won it all had Jamal Shead not gotten hurt early in the Sweet 16 game.

 

[VolCalls]

We all know what you stated about the committee. The only possible move on the #1 and #2 line is St. John.
If they win their conference, and Texas Tech craps the bed first game of their conference tournament, then there is a chance St. John can bump up to the 2 line.
None of the #1 projected are moving (Auburn, Duke, Florida, Houston). Michigan State will not be a #1 seed.
On the #2 line Tennessee, Alabama, Michigan State....none of them are moving off that #2 line.

I don’t think St. John’s has the numbers to warrant a #2 seed. They are 17th in the NET and 15th in KenPom. They were the last #4 seed in the early reveal and I don’t believe they’ve passed eight other teams in the eyes of the selection committee. Texas Tech or Wisconsin are most likely to nab the final #2 seed.

 

[Anti-shunshinepumper]

I don’t think St. John’s has the numbers to warrant a #2 seed. They are 17th in the NET and 15th in KenPom. They were the last #4 seed in the early reveal and I don’t believe they’ve passed eight other teams in the eyes of the selection committee. Texas Tech or Wisconsin are most likely to nab the final #2 seed.

I don't think it is likely either, but it's the only possible jump one could rationalize.

 

[Anti-shunshinepumper]

They are as physical as anyone in the country. They were my pick last year and I believe they would’ve won it all had Jamal Shead not gotten hurt early in the Sweet 16 game.

I don't think they can or will win it all this year.
Of course this is a matter of opinion.
Having said that, if you ( meaning anyone) had to put your real money on someone winning it all, I doubt many actually would put that $ on Houston to get it done this year.

 

[cncchris33]

I’m saving this post so I can reference it when we get the top #2 seed.

So you think that we are ahead of one of Houston, Florida, or Bama, then?

 

[VolCalls]

I don't think they can or will win it all this year.
Of course this is a matter of opinion.
Having said that, if you ( meaning anyone) had to put your real money on someone winning it all, I doubt many actually would put that $ on Houston to get it done this year.

They’re the #4 betting choice in Vegas.

 

[VolCalls]

So you think that we are ahead of one of Houston, Florida, or Bama, then?

I think we’re ahead of Bama but Houston and Florida will be #1 seeds.

 

[cncchris33]

I think we’re ahead of Bama but Houston and Florida will be #1 seeds.

I think it's close. That win at Auburn is gonna leave a lasting impression, I'm afraid. They have 1 more Q1 win, 3 more Q2 wins, and I believe pass the proverbial "eye test" more than Tennessee. It may come down to how much emphasis is placed on the H2H matchup, where Tennessee obviously had the advantage of being at home.

 

[Anti-shunshinepumper]

They’re the #4 betting choice in Vegas.

People can and will bet anything. Houston has a lot of hype.
Like I said, that's just my opinion.
If you only had one team to put money on would it be Houston? Honestly?

 

[VolCalls]

People can and will bet anything. Houston has a lot of hype.
Like I said, that's just my opinion.
If you only had one team to put money on would it be Houston? Honestly?

Yes.

 

[VolCalls]

I think it's close. That win at Auburn is gonna leave a lasting impression, I'm afraid. They have 1 more Q1 win, 3 more Q2 wins, and I believe pass the proverbial "eye test" more than Tennessee. It may come down to how much emphasis is placed on the H2H matchup, where Tennessee obviously had the advantage of being at home.

Certainly the recency bias could be there, but we’re ahead of them in both NET and KenPom. I think when splitting hairs like this the fact that we beat them H2H is an easy way to break the tie.

Another way to look at it is the round robin record amongst the four top SEC teams, with Auburn as the outlier since they’re a guaranteed #1 seed. Florida is 3-1, we are 2-2, and Bama is 1-3.

 

[99gator]

If Houston and Tennessee face each other, the first to 40 wins

 

[Anti-shunshinepumper]

Yes.

So Houston is your favorite to win it all this year because that is what you essentially just said.
Good luck with that. Personally, I don't see it happening.

 

[Anti-shunshinepumper]

Certainly the recency bias could be there, but we’re ahead of them in both NET and KenPom. I think when splitting hairs like this the fact that we beat them H2H is an easy way to break the tie.

Another way to look at it is the round robin record amongst the four top SEC teams, with Auburn as the outlier since they’re a guaranteed #1 seed. Florida is 3-1, we are 2-2, and Bama is 1-3.

It's no doubt close but that one extra loss has to mean something when deciding something so close or why even keep record of losses? Same for head to head. Why even have it as a consideration if it really has no real basis in deciding two equal teams that are basically a coin flip.
IMO, the extra loss and them having an extra Q1 win basically negate each other. They H2H is the tiebreaker.