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nickknx865 said:
Forgive me if my lack of pre-season college basketball rankings shows, but Virginia Tech doesn't seem like #21 to me.
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Yeah, they are worthy of the ranking. I think you will see them hover between 15-22 all season long, unless something unforseen happens. They will have some good wins in the ACC.
 
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#77
Hardwood_fanatic said:
Yeah, they are worthy of the ranking. I think you will see them hover between 15-22 all season long, unless something unforseen happens. They will have some good wins in the ACC.
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If they hadn't lost most of their bench to injury in the offseason, they'd be even higher.
 
#78
#78
Hardwood_fanatic said:
Those were some great years of basketball. I enjoyed watching that IU team with Chaney, Henderson, Nover, Graham and Evans. Sullinger shouldn't really be mentioned in the same breath as some of the guys you mention.
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Being a Bob Knight loyalist lucky enough to have access to a satellite dish, I missed about 4 IU games during that group's careers. The Big 10 was ridiculously good then.
 
#79
#79
hatvol96 said:
Being a Bob Knight loyalist lucky enough to have access to a satellite dish, I missed about 4 IU games during that group's careers. The Big 10 was ridiculously good then.
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Yeah, I watched as many games as possible with that group. Cheaney and Evans both had 2 of the sweetest lefty strokes in the game, and Nover was an oak. The IU/UK rivalry was great then, back when they played at the RCA dome and Freedom Hall, and spilit the tickets right down the middle at half court.
 
#80
#80
Hardwood_fanatic said:
Yeah, I watched as many games as possible with that group. Cheaney and Evans both had 2 of the sweetest lefty strokes in the game, and Nover was an oak. The IU/UK rivalry was great then, back when they played at the RCA dome and Freedom Hall, and spilit the tickets right down the middle at half court.
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They just could never get to the finish line healthy. Pat Graham breaks his foot in '92 and Henderson blows his knee in '93. The injuries cost them at least one national title. They were clearly the best team in the country in 1993.
 
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#82
Hardwood_fanatic said:
Why? UT will be relying heavily on freshmen, while most of their returning players are mostly average. Hopson has the chance to be great but Williams, Bone, Tatum, Woolridge etc., are role players. I think 14 is a great spot for UT.
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Call me a Kool Aid drinker, but I think Tatum will be more than a role player. Supposedly, he's as healthy as he's ever been, and if he plays like I think he can, he should be able to average more at least 10 points throughout the season. Maybe that is being a role player, but I just have a hunch that he could be a significant contributor. Also, I believe Williams has the potential to be great, but it's all up to him. I feel uneasy making any bold predictions about him at this point though.
 
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#83
TennesseeFan07 said:
Florida at 12 is laughable.
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Perhaps, but it makes sense. Out of the big 3 in the east, UF is the only one that returns 5 starters. If you're going to put UK and UT below 15, then most agree that UF goes in front because of that distinction.

However, we all know how soft Florida is, and how they continuously self implode year after year. Thats why its pre-season.
 
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Hardwood_fanatic said:
Perhaps, but it makes sense. Out of the big 3 in the east, UF is the only one that returns 5 starters. If you're going to put UK and UT below 15, then most agree that UF goes in front because of that distinction.

However, we all know how soft Florida is, and how they continuously self implode year after year. Thats why its pre-season.
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Did that returning 5 do something noteworthy that I missed?
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BigPapaVol said:
Did that returning 5 do something noteworthy that I missed?
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Nope, they sucked. I'm merely pointing out the rationale of most talking heads that placed them there. Reading my post again, I was not very clear on that.

Most know my opinion of UF.
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#86
#86
Florida's ranking is still based on the 06 and 07 run, IMO.

Va Tech is going to have to prove to me they are not the S. Carolina of college bball before I'll say they are worthy of that ranking.

Tennessee is about 4-6 spots higher than I expected.
 
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#87
tigervol9802 said:
Florida's ranking is still based on the 06 and 07 run, IMO.

Va Tech is going to have to prove to me they are not the S. Carolina of college bball before I'll say they are worthy of that ranking.

Tennessee is about 4-6 spots higher than I expected.
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There are still several out there who think Donovan is an elite coach because of those two years, when the rest of his resume screams mediocrity.
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#88
Hardwood_fanatic said:
Those were some great years of basketball. I enjoyed watching that IU team with Chaney, Henderson, Nover, Graham and Evans. Sullinger shouldn't really be mentioned in the same breath as some of the guys you mention.



I had the pleasure of watching Purdue vs Duke in the 94 regional at TBA when UK failed to make it. Robinson vs Grant Hill didn't quite live up to its billing, but he did have it all for the college game.
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I was at that game as well.
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#91
#91
hatvol96 said:
Made the NCAA Tournament last year on the strength of a 60 foot fluke by Chandler Parsons.
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Haha so true. I think they may have a good regular season, but I just don't think that team is built for a successful run in the tournament.

What are you most anxious for this season, Hat? The easy answer for me would be to see if Hopson can be a star because that probably makes this team a very very good one. However, I think I'm most anxious to see what kind of impact Fields and Maymon will have on the team.
 
#92
#92
Florida will play themselves out of the top 25 shortly after conference play starts provided they don't have any horrible OOC screw-ups IMO. UK and UT are both at places I accept for bringing in so many young contributors. Just a ton of unknowns at both schools. I think Marciano's work with B Will should prove to have molded into one of the top BIG's in the SEC. I think highly of Tatum as well. His only downfall is the inability to stay healthy and if he breaks that tag this season he could very well be one of our best and consistent players. Killa Cam got game!
 
#93
#93
DaDuRkEr said:
Florida will play themselves out of the top 25 shortly after conference play starts provided they don't have any horrible OOC screw-ups IMO. UK and UT are both at places I accept for bringing in so many young contributors. Just a ton of unknowns at both schools. I think Marciano's work with B Will should prove to have molded into one of the top BIG's in the SEC. I think highly of Tatum as well. His only downfall is the inability to stay healthy and if he breaks that tag this season he could very well be one of our best and consistent players. Killa Cam got game!
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Cam just needs to go out and play. He looks too stiff and robotic at times on the court.
 
#94
#94
He looked fluid and in command in the RTL this past summer.

BTW... On another note, it was more than just Parson's 60 footer, he hit at least 3 buzzer beaters before UF even came into the TBA last season. They were lucky as any team in the field when selection Sunday came about. They showed right away how much they belonged in that field as well. Nothing about UF screams anything other than mediocre and a decent conference record to match a solid OOC record against poor competition will be their recipe again this season. They have 6 easy wins in conference against the SECW, and will probably split the east at best. They should be a tourney team this season, but I just see a roster that resembles a 12-pack of Quilted Northern double-rolls more-so than a hardened, veteran ball club that can compete with UT and UK for the SECE.

Go Vols!!!
 
#95
#95
Vols don't deserve anything above #14. I was actually pleasantly surprised with the ranking, given that we are a team of potential right now.

We'll have to have a lot of guys live up to their hype and step up to justify a higher ranking, like with any team that has the scenario we do.

That being said, the Big Ten (or twelve if you prefer) is nasty this year.
 
#96
#96
Hardwood_fanatic said:
There are still several out there who think Donovan is an elite coach because of those two years, when the rest of his resume screams mediocrity.
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He's a good coach. Hard to argue with back to back titles even if he fell into them. But yeah, all in all he's still living off that run.
 
#97
#97
I think Donovan had the best talent in the NCAA for a couple years while the SEC was extremely down as well as most of the national powers. I think since the back to back titles he has shown very little in a few key areas. 1) coaching players up. 2) Evaluating talent and getting recruits that fit his system. 3) his ability as a bench coach and drawing plays up in crucial times to get the W.

He did the latter several times last year, but lets be honest, Parsons' prayers aren't gonna be answered like they were last year on most nights. Luck isn't the worst quality to have in a coach, just ask any LSU fan... lol
 
#98
#98
DaDuRkEr said:
I think Donovan had the best talent in the NCAA for a couple years while the SEC was extremely down as well as most of the national powers. I think since the back to back titles he has shown very little in a few key areas. 1) coaching players up. 2) Evaluating talent and getting recruits that fit his system. 3) his ability as a bench coach and drawing plays up in crucial times to get the W.

He did the latter several times last year, but lets be honest, Parsons' prayers aren't gonna be answered like they were last year on most nights. Luck isn't the worst quality to have in a coach, just ask any LSU fan... lol
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People forget that when Florida won their first title they may have had the easiest road in NCAA history. Granted they still won it, but they played George Mason in the Final 4.
 
#99
#99
So, I won't pretend to know anything about this upcoming year, but why is Memphis not higher? Not that I want them to do well, but I thought Pastner pulled in a huge class.
 
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