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AthensVol2007 said:
To Bruin’s comment about the Bright Futures that’s no different than the Hope Scholarship or whatever TN calls their’s. Graduate HS with a certain GPA and test scores and get a piece of tuition waived. UF’s advantage is a population of 21M vs. 6M and year round ability play/practice.
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I might be wrong but doesn’t the bright futures
Program pay more toward tuition than our hope scholarship pays???

hope pays 4000 the first 2 years and 4500
The last 2
 
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BruinVol said:
The funniest bs about this post is I don’t see any argument being discussed here. It’s a discussion where he’s asking my opinion and I am answering. In fact we both are agreeing with each other on some points.

Good grief
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That’s true.

Bruin has been of this mindset as long as I can remember. A dog with a bone. I respect that, I do.

There were a lot of takers during Coach Serrano’s era. We can’t ever compete blah blah, but at that time, especially looking back, we just didn’t recruit any where close to SEC standards. That is not to say we didn’t have some guys, but we never had enough, ya know?

Now we are ranked, what, top 5. So we are competitive and Bruins argument takes on a different theme IMO.

Can we win a CWS without the aid? That is really the crux now in my opinion.

There is a difference between arguing and discussing.
 
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All that said, day one of the Ms. St. series, after a Corbin letter to the fans asking them to come out to their very fancy, relatively new park, for a team that won the CWS in 2019, 1407 people showed up, best it got all weekend, oh yeah with 2 first round pitchers.
 
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vol66 said:
All that said, day one of the Ms. St. series, after a Corbin letter to the fans asking them to come out to there very fancy relatively new park, for a team that won the CWS in 2019, 1407 people showed up, best it got all weekend, oh yeah with 2 first round pitchers.
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Corbin doesn’t want sympathy but you have to feel for the man. He has won at a high level for a long time and he has to beg people to come watch his boys play.

It’s one of the overlooked aspects of recruiting kids from all over the country and passing on most of your home state talent. You field better teams but there is no one there to cheer them on.
 
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drawing dead said:
Corbin doesn’t want sympathy but you have to feel for the man. He has won at a high level for a long time and he has to beg people to come watch his boys play.

It’s one of the overlooked aspects of recruiting kids from all over the country and passing on most of your home state talent. You field better teams but there is no one there to cheer them on.
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He ain’t getting no sympathy from me, if he wants the park to be full in the regular season for those spoiled to death fans he’s barking up the wrong tree. CAFEGO!
 
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BruinVol said:
I might be wrong but doesn’t the bright futures
Program pay more toward tuition than our hope scholarship pays???

hope pays 4000 the first 2 years and 4500
The last 2
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Bright Futures is (or was when I graduated HS) 75% of tuition waived for X level of achievement and 50% for Y level of achievement. I wasn’t sure what TN’s was so if that’s the case then FL would be an immensely better deal. Graduating with five digits in student loans sometimes makes me ask myself what I was thinking leaving FL and leaving the 75% on the table. Then I remember there was absolutely no way I could ever bring myself to attend UF growing up a UT fan.
 
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BruinVol said:
The funniest bs about this post is I don’t see any argument being discussed here. It’s a discussion where he’s asking my opinion and I am answering. In fact we both are agreeing with each other on some points.

Good grief
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Yeah, it’s your opinion, I get that. But you’re always so damn negative about Tennessee. You’re saying that TN can’t do literally anything to keep TV if a school with “need based aid” comes calling. That he is gone no matter what. Like, what a sour outlook. There is plenty of other things TN can do to try and close that gap. It just depends if our administration wants to do them. But, no, it’s not impossible to keep TV.
 
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vol66 said:
All that said, day one of the Ms. St. series, after a Corbin letter to the fans asking them to come out to there very fancy relatively new park, for a team that won the CWS in 2019, 1407 people showed up, best it got all weekend, oh yeah with 2 first round pitchers.
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That’s probably pretty equivalent to their randomly made up 40% capacity policy.
 
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AthensVol2007 said:
Bright Futures is (or was when I graduated HS) 75% of tuition waived for X level of achievement and 50% for Y level of achievement. I wasn’t sure what TN’s was so if that’s the case then FL would be an immensely better deal. Graduating with five digits in student loans sometimes makes me ask myself what I was thinking leaving FL and leaving the 75% on the table. Then I remember there was absolutely no way I could ever bring myself to attend UF growing up a UT fan.
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Yea I did some checking and bright futures is certainly way better than the hope. I see where you can even get 100% of tuition with it.

agreed screw Uf
 
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AthensVol2007 said:
That’s probably pretty equivalent to their randomly made up 40% capacity policy.
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That’s fair capacity is 3700 folks there I guess. My overall point is, the stadium thing might not be the answer that solves getting people interested in college baseball, we were over 2000 for the Sunday match up with VU, Corbin complimented our fans for the sole purpose of saying, to his admin, our kids deserve that atmosphere too. In 2019, when we played them, they were around capacity in a brand new facility. Your point is well taken. My point is facilities don’t drive fans to a stadium, winning does...and even then, there’s no guarantee that if you build it “they will come.”
 
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vol66 said:
That’s fair capacity is 3700 folks there I guess. My overall point is, the stadium thing might not be the answer that solves getting people interested in college baseball, we were over 2000 for the Sunday match up with VU, Corbin complimented our fans for the sole purpose of saying, to his admin, our kids deserve that atmosphere too. In 2019, when we played them, they were around capacity in a brand new facility. Your point is well taken. My point is facilities don’t drive fans to a stadium, winning does...and even then, there’s no guarantee that if you build it “they will come.”
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Yeah we went to the Saturday game up there in 2019. Walked up 10 min before first pitch and bought 3 tickets at the gate. Shouldn’t be like that.
 
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AthensVol2007 said:
Yeah we went to the Saturday game up there in 2019. Walked up 10 min before first pitch and bought 3 tickets at the gate. Shouldn’t be like that.
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Well, to flip the coin a bit, there’s a zillion ways to spend your entertainment budget in Nashville. We don’t have the same problem, not really.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
But, no, it’s not impossible to keep TV.
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Just stop. I never said there wasn’t a chance he’d stay. In fact I even mentioned one main reason he might stay but you don’t want to read all
My post. You only want to read the bits and pieces you have already decided what I think
 
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BruinVol said:
Just stop. I never said there wasn’t a chance he’d stay. In fact I even mentioned one main reason he’s stay but you don’t want to read all
My post. You only want to read the bits and pieces you have already decided what I think
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CTV likes Nashville!
 
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vol66 said:
That’s fair capacity is 3700 folks there I guess. My overall point is, the stadium thing might not be the answer that solves getting people interested in college baseball, we were over 2000 for the Sunday match up with VU, Corbin complimented our fans for the sole purpose of saying, to his admin, our kids deserve that atmosphere too. In 2019, when we played them, they were around capacity in a brand new facility. Your point is well taken. My point is facilities don’t drive fans to a stadium, winning does...and even then, there’s no guarantee that if you build it “they will come.”
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Local radio said about 35% of the fans in attendance yesterday were Miss St fans. If you add the random baseball fans in Nashville that may have attended (Belmont, Lipscomb, etc) about 1/2 the people there weren’t true Vandy fans. They really do have a minuscule following considering the success of the program. I attribute some of this to passing on a lot of players in state to bring in highly rated players from other states. Players like Evan Russell really do resonate with the people in TN and they show up to pull for their own.
 
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drawing dead said:
Local radio said about 35% of the fans in attendance yesterday were Miss St fans. If you add the random baseball fans in Nashville that may have attended (Belmont, Lipscomb, etc) about 1/2 the people there weren’t true Vandy fans. They really do have a minuscule following considering the success of the program. I attribute some of this to passing on a lot of players in state to bring in highly rated players from other states. Players like Evan Russell really do resonate with the people in TN and they show up to pull for their own.
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I don’t care about Vandy, they have a handful of fans in a metropolis. Baseball program is Corbin, but the people of Nashville do not care. Not about baseball, football, basketball, bowling maybe. Cafego the whole town and blow up the crap music scene, save Hog Heaven and build a new town around it. 😄
 
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drawing dead said:
Local radio said about 35% of the fans in attendance yesterday were Miss St fans. If you add the random baseball fans in Nashville that may have attended (Belmont, Lipscomb, etc) about 1/2 the people there weren’t true Vandy fans. They really do have a minuscule following considering the success of the program. I attribute some of this to passing on a lot of players in state to bring in highly rated players from other states. Players like Evan Russell really do resonate with the people in TN and they show up to pull for their own.
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meh they have plenty of local flavor to keep that appeal. Guys like price and gray arent forgotten easily

Russell wasn’t even close to on vandys radar. He was a walk on at Tenn with only one D1 $ offer
 
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BruinVol said:
meh they have plenty of local flavor to keep that appeal. Guys like price and gray arent forgotten easily

Russell wasn’t even close to on vandys radar. He was a walk on at Tenn with only one D1 $ offer
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That was my point. Vandy does not have a real following despite their success.
 
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drawing dead said:
Pretty sure it’s over 10K.
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I don’t ask questions I don’t know the answers to most of the time, that’s correct. Now, Vandy spent a small fortune to give Corbin AND ALL THE PLAYERS he’s coaching now and IN the MLB now, a place to call home, now, in the off season...hell they just launched a several million dollar campaign to upgrade again other facilities...no one cares, no one that lives there cares...very much.
 
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drawing dead said:
That was my point. Vandy does not have a real following despite their success.
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their “following” really is different than many other following of fans. For instance fans of miss state are really passionate about that place. They love being at that ballpark and I don’t blame them. It’s an unreal experience.

But the vandy following is made of dads and kids that long to be the next david price, sonny Gray or brian Reynolds. They just don’t have the passion for the Experience or being a a “real” fan. A lot of those people in those stands are like that imo
 
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