Conference Realignments

#76
#76
govols120 said:
TCU may come in here somewhere as an alternate option for team 15/16. Solid academics, great football program, solid in baseball IIRC, and D-FW TV market. Definitely feel like they'd deserve some consideration, at least.
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2 texas teams... I like this.
 
#79
#79
Dr.Vol said:
Rumor has it they are attached like OU+OK St. Package deal or neither.
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I'd probably take neither then. The SEC didn't want Oklahoma State, I'm not sure why they'd take Virginia. Oklahoma > Virginia Tech. Oklahoma State > Virginia. Oklahoma State is almost on par with VT at this point. I get that the markets VT opens us up to are better than Oklahoma but I don't know how you could justify passing on Oklahoma because you refuse to take Ok State while letting Virginia tag along with VT.

I don't think it matters with the new buy outs. ACC teams will be in contention for a title shot and the road through the SEC just makes it harder. They are not paying 20 mil to make life more difficult unless they are guaranteed more money. They certainly aren't guaranteed wins
 
#81
#81
The $20 million poison pill will not be a deterrence for any ACC team seriously looking at making a change. That money can be made up short-term. Teams will be looking at the long term implications.
 
#82
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Tux said:
The $20 million poison pill will not be a deterrence for any ACC team seriously looking at making a change. That money can be made up short-term. Teams will be looking at the long term implications.
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Long term, they probably don't make anymore in the SEC than the ACC and it will be hard as heck to go undefeated in a 16 team SEC. An undefeated ACC team will go over a 1 loss SEC team. You don't need rocket appliances to know which road is easier.

There will probably be a playoff system for the super conferences and unless you're making more money, you have just as good of a chance to be a part of it in the ACC as you do the SEC. That's why Florida State and Virginia Tech don't want to leave. They'd have to be assured they'd make more money. Because they're less likely to win in the SEC than the ACC
 
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#83
#83
Tux said:
Brace yourselves, we are going to 16 teams. I look for the SEC to make Texas A&M, West Virginia, Virginia Tech, and either Virginia or Florida State new members of the SEC.
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Sub out WVU for someone else actually IN the South and I would be happy with that.

Tech
A&M
FSU
SOMEONE ELSE


I'd MUCH rather have TCU than West Virginia.


I trust Slive.
 
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#85
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Cooleyvol said:
Oh my God. Surely Slive can do better than West Virginia! I have a hard time believing FSU/VT wouldn't accept.
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They won't. They are already kings of their own castle, and the acc just instituted a $20mil buyout.
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#86
#86
I doubt we get Texas, OU or any of the ACC schools.

I'll go on record as thinking we'll get stuck having to settle for Mizzou, WVU and Louisville. Those three are better than Vandy, and in football, obviously better than KY, but that's not saying much.
 
#87
#87
Why is VA Tech such a better get than WVU? I have about the same opinion of both... just curious why others like VA Tech so much better.
 
#88
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Dr.Vol said:
Why is VA Tech such a better get than WVU? I have about the same opinion of both... just curious why others like VA Tech so much better.
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They are a lot more marketable than West Virginia. Apparently they have a lot of fans in Baltimore. West Virginia is in the top 25 and most people don't even care about them. Plus, the West Virginia fan base is pretty much trash. People make fun of the south for being inbred trash... that's a myth. It's a reality in West Virginia :p
 
#89
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Dr.Vol said:
Why is VA Tech such a better get than WVU? I have about the same opinion of both... just curious why others like VA Tech so much better.
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Shorter travel and better regional draw. Equal if not better in football though falls short in basketball. Much stronger academically.
 
#90
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Dr.Vol said:
Rumor has it they are attached like OU+OK St. Package deal or neither.
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take em both then and add missou. I do not like the idea of WVU (let me reference the Johnny Knoxville movie the wild and woderful whites of west virginia)
 
#91
#91
Dr.Vol said:
Why is VA Tech such a better get than WVU? I have about the same opinion of both... just curious why others like VA Tech so much better.
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You do make a good point. And in the past, VT and WVU had a very heated rivalry.

But I think for most UT fans there's more of a East TN/SW VA fan rivalry between with the Hokies than there is with UT and WVU.

The rest of the SEC however, probably doesn't differentiate between VT and WVU much since their programs are very similar. But like others have pointed out, DC/Balt. is considered part of VT's TV market which gives it an advantage over WVU.

Also when it comes to recruiting, Virginia (especially the Tidewater area and Richmond) along with DC/Balt is much, much stronger than that of WV.
 
#92
#92
I would love to see vt in the sec. But nobody is leaving the acc, and thats the end of it, same with fsu and clemson.

After tamu, wvu is the best viable option.
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#93
#93
I really feel like the SEC has bungled this all up. If you are going to be proactive enough to get this whole mess restarted with aTm, then you darn well better be proactive enough to look at other teams. Now it looks like they are going to be digging the scraps of the dying football Big East and cUSA when much better schools were going to be there for the taking. Looks very myopic now.
 
#94
#94
NeylandArmy said:
I really feel like the SEC has bungled this all up. If you are going to be proactive enough to get this whole mess restarted with aTm, then you darn well better be proactive enough to look at other teams. Now it looks like they are going to be digging the scraps of the dying football Big East and cUSA when much better schools were going to be there for the taking. Looks very myopic now.
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Mike Slive must not be the genius he thinks he is.
 
#95
#95
milohimself said:
I would love to see vt in the sec. But nobody is leaving the acc, and thats the end of it, same with fsu and clemson.

After tamu, wvu is the best viable option.
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So, let me get this straight. WVU is not good enough for the ACC or the Big10.

But they're the best option for the SEC?

Hell no, add 4 teams from the Big12 south if we have to and then redistribute divisions. WVU is being left behind by the other conferences for a reason.
 
#96
#96
No, the acc just had the better options for them in pitt and cuse. The sec couldn't get them. Wvu does well in football and basketball, has a large fanbase and substantially more value to the sec than the acc.
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#97
#97
just a thought to get into a market. if we take mizzou and atm. if we do take wvu, what about either indiana or purdue to get into the indy market. or maybe illinois. it seems some things are not geographic in this round.
 
#99
#99
missourivol said:
just a thought to get into a market. if we take mizzou and atm. if we do take wvu, what about either indiana or purdue to get into the indy market. or maybe illinois. it seems some things are not geographic in this round.
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it's an interesting, outside the box kind of thought

they won't leave the big 10 though. those schools are all tied together too tightly
 
#100
#100
Dr.Vol said:
TV markets don't guarantee that people turn them on. If we wanted a big TV market we could go toward Memphis or Houston, but that assumes people would actually watch the teams, which we know they don't. WVU has a national following and people all over the country watch them. Pretty good addition if they do become #14. Their fans travel, and love football.
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Spot on.

I'm not loving the changes in the landscape, but WVU has way more positives than a lot of people here think. And trust me, these people (I live thirty minutes from campus) are as nuts about their team as any SEC fanbase.
 
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