Conference Realignments

#127
#127
to hell with that.

I'd rather the SEC stay the way it is before we start adding ****ty teams
 
#128
#128
blupotato said:
I hate this whole thing.
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Me too. I'd prefer going back to having conferences limited to 10 teams. Much rather have 6-8 quality conferences like the old SEC, Big 10, Pac 10, ACC, Big 8, SWC andBig East than what it's coming to with 4 superconferences.
 
#129
#129
What the hell is the point of having a conference with 16 teams? You might as well be 2 separate conferences because you'd never play any of the schools in the other division.
 
#130
#130
G0V0LS33 said:
Se we want to add A&M, Mizzou, WVU and Louisville? Um ok
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I don't want to, but I think those are the likely choices since we're heading to 16 teams.

I don't think Texas or OU is coming to the SEC. And it doesn't look like any current ACC team like FSU, VT or Clemson is going to jump ship to come here.

So if we are going to 16 teams then it'll be from whoever is left from the Big 12 and Big East.
 
#132
#132
utksf7374 said:
With Syracuse and Pitt headed to the ACC, here's my amatuer opinion.

Currently the ACC has 14*, SEC has 13*, and Big 10 has 12.

The Big East is down the sh*tter, so I'd say the remaining teams bail.

Rutgers and Uconn go to the ACC and West Virginia + USF or Louisville to the SEC.

Missouri moves from the Big 12 to the SEC.

The SEC now has 16 and the ACC has 16.

The PAC-12 picks up 4 Big 12 teams.

The Big Ten chooses 4 of the remaining Big East and Big 12 teams with the additional possibility of Notre Dame.
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DING! We have a winner.

Each Big East football school bails, and the Big East becomes a basketball conference similar to the Atlantic-10. (Notre Dame stays there and stays independent in football)

Big16 picks up: Kansas, K-State, Cincy, Louisville
Pac16 picks up: Texas, TX Tech, Oklahoma, OK State
ACC picks up: Syracuse, Pitt, UConn, Rutgers
SEC picks up: TX A&M, Missou, WVU, and...

The 16th SEC team will be either NC State or East Carolina; with the other team being in the ACC. (NC State would pay the $20m buyout to get out of the shadow of Duke/UNC.)

The 'leftovers', TCU, Baylor, Iowa State, and South Florida all go to Conference USA...CUSA also adds Louisiana Tech, giving them 16.

Mountain West re-merges with the WAC, giving them 16.

MAC and SunBelt...do they still exist? Does anyone really care?
 
#134
#134
It doesn't appear to me that pulling someone from the ACC will be a possibility. I truly hope that doesn't mean we get stuck taking a team like West Virginia. I'd rather have TCU.
 
#135
#135
VolInsider said:
DING! We have a winner.

Each Big East football school bails, and the Big East becomes a basketball conference similar to the Atlantic-10. (Notre Dame stays there and stays independent in football)

Big16 picks up: Kansas, K-State, Cincy, Louisville
Pac16 picks up: Texas, TX Tech, Oklahoma, OK State
ACC picks up: Syracuse, Pitt, UConn, Rutgers
SEC picks up: TX A&M, Missou, WVU, and...

The 16th SEC team will be either NC State or East Carolina; with the other team being in the ACC. (NC State would pay the $20m buyout to get out of the shadow of Duke/UNC.)

The 'leftovers', TCU, Baylor, Iowa State, and South Florida all go to Conference USA...CUSA also adds Louisiana Tech, giving them 16.

Mountain West re-merges with the WAC, giving them 16.

MAC and SunBelt...do they still exist? Does anyone really care?
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I think the SEC would add TCU before they added East Carolina. I know they're already getting Texas TV sets with A&M, but on the other hand I'm not sure ECU really adds much of the North Carolina market. And from a competition standpoint, TCU would be a much better fit.
 
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#136
bamawriter said:
It doesn't appear to me that pulling someone from the ACC will be a possibility. I truly hope that doesn't mean we get stuck taking a team like West Virginia. I'd rather have TCU.
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I think its still possible.

West Virginia is a **** add no matter how you cut it.
 
#137
#137
bamawriter said:
It doesn't appear to me that pulling someone from the ACC will be a possibility. I truly hope that doesn't mean we get stuck taking a team like West Virginia. I'd rather have TCU.
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I agree. Chances of us poaching from the ACC all but vanished yesterday. Especially if there's a chance of them adding Notre Dame to the fold. (I actually think that would be a solid move by them, and stick it in the eye of the Big 10).

I hate to think the SEC is expanding for expansion sake and diluting our product and our identity.
 
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#138
#138
bamawriter said:
It doesn't appear to me that pulling someone from the ACC will be a possibility. I truly hope that doesn't mean we get stuck taking a team like West Virginia. I'd rather have TCU.
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Well we have three slots if we're going to 16. Let's assume Mizzou is one of them. Then if we take TCU over WVU we still have one more slot. Is Louisville or ECU > WVU?

Anyone you look at it, if OU/Texas is out and the ACC teams are out, then we're going to end up with at least 2 of these: TCU, Louisville, WVU, ECU, Cincy. Anyway you slice it, it appears we're going to be adding two of these CUSA/low-end Big East caliber schools.
 
#139
#139
We will be at 16....it is all about who is the 16th team.

You can all but take it to the bank that Missouri and WVU are going to the SEC. Only thing that will stop that will be if Missouri gets invited to Big Ten before they accept an SEC invite.

The 16th team could go many many ways. We could look to try and steal an SEC Team wanting to remain in a pro football conference. (Clemson, FSU, VTech NC St.) but I think that is very unlikely with the 20M and all 4 of those schools have issues getting added in the first place. Clem, FSU being blocked by SC, FL, NC St. not wanting to leave the 4 NC schools, and VT not being able to leave UVA.

So if those four are out of the question then I think it leaves the SEC thinking TV markets mainly and not worrying about getting another football power. As someone else said if we add A&M and WVU we will have 9 of the top 25 winningest programs of all time. We will be still considered the dominant conference.

So my thoughts for the 16th team are ECU, TCU, Cinncy or USF.
Final prediction
SEC adds A&M, Missouri, WVU, and ECU!
Pac 12 add Tex, TTech, OK, OKSt
Big Ten adds Kansas, Notre Dame, Louisville and Rutgers
ACC adds UConn and USF

Big winner ECU, WVU, Texas, Big 10 (Notre Dame)
Big losers Baylor, Kst, Ist., Cinncy
 
#140
#140
I'm of the belief that the SEC already has an agreement in place with Missouri should the Big 12 fold. I just hope they get it locked down before the Big 10 comes calling. Not being able to poach the ACC really screws things up.
 
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#143
Ericvol2096 said:
We will be at 16....it is all about who is the 16th team.

You can all but take it to the bank that Missouri and WVU are going to the SEC. Only thing that will stop that will be if Missouri gets invited to Big Ten before they accept an SEC invite.

The 16th team could go many many ways. We could look to try and steal an SEC Team wanting to remain in a pro football conference. (Clemson, FSU, VTech NC St.) but I think that is very unlikely with the 20M and all 4 of those schools have issues getting added in the first place. Clem, FSU being blocked by SC, FL, NC St. not wanting to leave the 4 NC schools, and VT not being able to leave UVA.

So if those four are out of the question then I think it leaves the SEC thinking TV markets mainly and not worrying about getting another football power. As someone else said if we add A&M and WVU we will have 9 of the top 25 winningest programs of all time. We will be still considered the dominant conference.

So my thoughts for the 16th team are ECU, TCU, Cinncy or USF.
Final prediction
SEC adds A&M, Missouri, WVU, and ECU!
Pac 12 add Tex, TTech, OK, OKSt
Big Ten adds Kansas, Notre Dame, Louisville and Rutgers
ACC adds UConn and USF

Big winner ECU, WVU, Texas, Big 10 (Notre Dame)
Big losers Baylor, Kst, Ist., Cinncy
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Absurd
 
#145
#145
rockytop9808 said:
I think its still possible.

West Virginia is a **** add no matter how you cut it.
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Dude, WVa is a better program than what you think. A lot of positive history going back a long time in both football and basketball. I think WVa is a great addition--definitely better than Missouri, TCU or the like.
 
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#149
EZE said:
Dude, WVa is a better program than what you think. A lot of positive history going back a long time in both football and basketball. I think WVa is a great addition--definitely better than Missouri, TCU or the like.
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Yeah...positive history...the facts:

0 = National Championships
19 = Appearances in Top25
15-70 = vs. Big10 foes
13-17 = in Bowl Games
2-6 = vs. Navy
9-48 = vs. Penn St.
30-61 = vs. Pitt
36 = Losing seasons
60,000 = stadium capacity
30,000 = population of Morgantown
2 = number of D1 recruits from the state of WV/yr.

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