Congress Criminal Referral Clinton, Comey, McCabe, Lynch, Strzok, and Page to DOJ

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theFallGuy said:
I'm not making excuses for lying if he did. But it's clear this was a fishing expedition to find him guilty of something he wasn't. The media so wanted this to be true, they just jump all over it like sharks circling blood in the water.
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The FBI had a recording/transcript of his calls with Kislyak.

According to Dan Bongino, his sources say Flynn was on vacation in the Dominican Republic during these calls. Bongino has implied that Flynn likely could not remember every detail from the calls because he had been drinking the day the calls took place.

I don’t believe Flynn ever knowingly lied. I think he couldn’t remember the phone calls word for word and the FBI entrapped him.
 
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Septic said:
Law enforcement does it ALL the time, from you local cops to the feds. Not only is it OK to lie to suspects to get them to step on their dicks, it's SOP.

Ultimately, however - it's up to the person to you know, not lie.
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Do you say it’s ok to do that when the person you’re talking to has no idea they’re being interviewed/investigated?
 
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ajvol01 said:
The FBI had a recording/transcript of his calls with Kislyak.

According to Dan Bongino, his sources say Flynn was on vacation in the Dominican Republic during these calls. Bongino has implied that Flynn likely could not remember every detail from the calls because he had been drinking the day the calls took place.

I don’t believe Flynn ever knowingly lied. I think he couldn’t remember the phone calls word for word and the FBI entrapped him.
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So, he's a lying drunk.
 
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theFallGuy said:
You may be "cool with it" but i have serious reservations about federal agents trying to trick someone into a lie instead of using evidence of a crime to prosecute. Ultimately they should've interviewed him without bias. Instead they went in with an axe to grind.
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Flynn didn’t even know he was being investigated / interviewed.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Did they mirandize him?
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Not sure to be honest. I don’t think so.

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Moreover, when the agents arrived, they and Flynn both treated the meeting as rather informal, even “jocular,” and “the agents did not provide General Flynn with a warning of the penalties for making a false statement … before, during, or after the interview.” The agents’ decision not to so inform Flynn was made at the direct behest of McCabe because “they wanted Flynn to be relaxed.”
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FBI's entrapment of Gen. Flynn was despicable
 
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ajvol01 said:
Do you say it’s ok to do that when the person you’re talking to has no idea they’re being interviewed/investigated?
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I fear I've miscommunicated, I do not believe it's "OK" - I meant to convey that it is legally permissible.

Regarding your question, if you're talking to federal law enforcement for any reason - does it need to be stated that you shouldn't lie?
 
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ajvol01 said:
Not sure to be honest. I don’t think so.

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FBI's entrapment of Gen. Flynn was despicable
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If this is true, charging Flynn was a miscarriage of justice.

The interview was set up directly via a phone call to Flynn from Andrew McCabe, who then was deputy director of the FBI. McCabe, by his own account, made it sound like an ordinary national-security-related briefing of the sort Flynn was accustomed to giving the FBI. Even though McCabe clearly knew that Flynn was a potential subject of investigation, he deliberately dissuaded Flynn from having attorneys present.
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ajvol01 said:
The snippet from the article I used contains a quote.
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I don't see any quoted attributes in that snippet.

The interview was set up directly via a phone call to Flynn from Andrew McCabe, who then was deputy director of the FBI. McCabe, by his own account, made it sound like an ordinary national-security-related briefing of the sort Flynn was accustomed to giving the FBI. Even though McCabe clearly knew that Flynn was a potential subject of investigation, he deliberately dissuaded Flynn from having attorneys present.
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