Congress Criminal Referral Clinton, Comey, McCabe, Lynch, Strzok, and Page to DOJ

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hog88 said:
I disagree slightly.

I don't think Obama weaponized the agencies he used them for his own purposes no doubt but he didn't weaponize them. They have been (especially the DOJ and FBI) have been tools of the establishment for decades and by establishment I mean mainly mean the entrenched bureaucrats and party leadership. So when an unapproved candidate showed up with a possibility of winning they took action for self preservation. Then when he won it was all out war, didn't matter that it was Trump, they would have taken the same course if any uncontrollable non-establishment type had won.
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Do you disagree that Obama is untouchable due to the fear of rioting?
 
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AshG said:
I'll take Trump over Pence any day. I'm not exactly interested in taking a step towards Gilead.
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This is a good illustration of the point I make often.

The treatment of Trump isn’t about Trump. Any Republican would be facing some flavor of attack from the left.

Making a Pence bogeyman here, from a VP who has largely been silent for the last 2+ years.
 
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1972 Grad said:
My theory is that Obama weaponized pretty much every federal agency to use against his enemies, and to try to take down Trump. Once Hillary got elected, nobody would ever find out his involvement. The Mueller investigation found nothing because there never was anything to find, and they knew it because Trump had been under surveillance for some time.

The Mueller probe will die a silent death because if Obama were to be shown to be the criminal that he is, Ferguson Missouri would look like a campfire. Nothing will happen here. The investigators are covering both Obama's ass and their own complicity. People like Manafort got caught up in it by doing what political folks normally do.
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Why else would Obama buy a house in DC and Valerie Jarrett shack up with the Obama’s? They have to keep their deep state in place.
 
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1972 Grad said:
My theory is that Obama weaponized pretty much every federal agency to use against his enemies, and to try to take down Trump. Once Hillary got elected, nobody would ever find out his involvement. The Mueller investigation found nothing because there never was anything to find, and they knew it because Trump had been under surveillance for some time.

The Mueller probe will die a silent death because if Obama were to be shown to be the criminal that he is, Ferguson Missouri would look like a campfire. Nothing will happen here. The investigators are covering both Obama's ass and their own complicity. People like Manafort got caught up in it by doing what political folks normally do.
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This absolutely cannot happen. The whole thing needs investigated if for nothing else to keep a smear and sham campaign from happening again no matter what side. Next, this was known nothing would come out of it but chose to move forward for no reason and just how much taxpayer money was wasted to smear?
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
This absolutely cannot happen. The whole thing needs investigated if for nothing else to keep a smear and sham campaign from happening again no matter what side. Next, this was known nothing would come out of it but chose to move forward for no reason and just how much taxpayer money was wasted to smear?
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It will fade away. Nothing happens to anyone. I think that Hog said that a year or two ago.
 
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1972 Grad said:
It will fade away. Nothing happens to anyone. I think that Hog said that a year or two ago.
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I don't think Trump is the type that will let it just "fade away." He's not the type to really care of whose feathers he ruffles and after 2 to 3 years of this BS I can't blame him.

I'm going on record saying he goes full speed at all these people.
 
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DC_Vol said:
This is a good illustration of the point I make often.

The treatment of Trump isn’t about Trump. Any Republican would be facing some flavor of attack from the left.

Making a Pence bogeyman here, from a VP who has largely been silent for the last 2+ years.
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My comments are based on prior behavior and stated belief. I have several friends who would have been devastated had the law he proposed in Indiana requiring burial services for stillborn or aborted children (all my friends were in the stillborn category) passed muster. I have enough working brain cells to know that a President alone does not (or is not supposed to, thank you executive orders) have the authority to enact such powerful widely effective and polarizing law without the consent of the legislative branch, but the emotional response to the possibility is much more real and bipartisan than crazies crying because someone they don't like has become president.
 
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I will also say, I didn't give much thought of this Q stuff more than just enjoying the read. After this today connecting the dots this Q stuff could turn out to be completely true and about to pick up steam.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
I don't think Trump is the type that will let it just "fade away." He's not the type to really care of whose feathers he ruffles and after 2 to 3 years of this BS I can't blame him.

I'm going on record saying he goes full speed at all these people.
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No, he'll let it go or at least stagger retirements so the guilty parties can slink away quietly. Do you think how aggressive the SDNY is going after everything Trump is a coincidence? Leverage to preserve the machine.
 
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Stew Cook said:
McCabe a democrat, that's news to me.
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He is and his wife is also. She took mucho money from Hillary for her own campaign. People like to say Mueller is a Republican but he is just a RepubliCrat and will do whatever is required to hide the evil deeds.
 
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BigOrangeD said:
He is and his wife is also. She took mucho money from Hillary for her own campaign. People like to say Mueller is a Republican but he is just a RepubliCrat and will do whatever is required to hide the evil deeds.
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Republicans and Democrats are on the same team, especially when an outsider shows up.
 
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When you fire the head of the FBI and tell Russia that he fired him because of the Russia investigation, I would say that would be grounds for an investigation.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
I don't think Trump is the type that will let it just "fade away." He's not the type to really care of whose feathers he ruffles and after 2 to 3 years of this BS I can't blame him.

I'm going on record saying he goes full speed at all these people.
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When Trump is out of office and no longer constrained by a staff, I imagine we'll learn quite a few things.
 
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Mick said:
When you fire the head of the FBI and tell Russia that he fired him because of the Russia investigation, I would say that would be grounds for an investigation.
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Obviously grounds to invoke the 25th Amendment.

Because who needs due process, right? That only applies when they have a (D) behind their name.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Obviously grounds to invoke the 25th Amendment.

Because who needs due process, right? That only applies when they have a (D) behind their name.
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How would you feel If your boss was just fired and you know what Russia was doing? Uncharted territory definitely and they were probably just trying to figure out what their new found power was. If a plan was put in place it would have to go through Pence so ask him if he was approached. It's not a conspiracy.
 
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