Cooper Leaving

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Chitownvol1129 said:
Getting into fights is an emotional problem, adults can control their tempers. I worked in bars and around liquor before retiring, adults without emotional issues dont get into physical assaulting each other. I never said she had made any negitive comments. She and her actions...fighting, not showing up to games, have brought about slamming of our program, which is just as bad and what I was saying. Maybe it is normal in your world for adults to attack each other physically, but it isn't in any I have been involved in, including my days playing football at UT. She was also a problem before that fight...she doesn't deserve anyone making more excuses for her, she needs this harsh reality check and kick in the pants. I hope she gets her life together, but usefulness on a team, is just something I don't see her over coming the odds. She wasn't stellar as a freshman in any way, to think she can improve massively after 2 years away, in a new team, with young proven guards, is really expecting way to much. We also don't know how hard she worked to recover.
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She just turned 20... she was still a teenager about a month ago. No one has it all together at her age. Personally my world doesn't consist of adults fighting each other all the time, but I saw plenty fights in my younger years.

In sports it's common... How many times do major league baseball players fight because of a dirty play... I'm talking about both dugouts clear, they storm the field and physically assault each other...yes ADULTS. In hockey/NHL they fight all the time...the refs just sit there and let them go at it... again, grown men...adults. NFL, NBA, whatever. It's a physical, competitive, passionate environment. Not sure what happened in your locker room but I can think of multiple occasions my teammates got into physical altercations. You're around these people ALL the time... your team is like your family. In this case they're like your sisters, and siblings fight sometimes! Didn't Bryce Harper get into it with his teammate in the dugout last season? Do they have emotional problems? Are they terrible people we should just write off?

This honestly isn't that uncommon within teams, it's just rarely publicized. Someone posted that even the person Te'a got into it with was petitioning for her to stay on the team... Apparently that person is over it. No need to come down so hard on Te'a is what I'm saying. She made mistakes with devastating consequences, but she's young and still learning that's a fact not an excuse. Now she's trying to move on with her life the best she can. We all love the LVs but let's keep things in perspective...no need to crucify the girl I'm sure she feels bad enough.
 
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Chitownvol1129 said:
Getting into fights is an emotional problem, adults can control their tempers. I worked in bars and around liquor before retiring, adults without emotional issues dont get into physical assaulting each other. I never said she had made any negitive comments. She and her actions...fighting, not showing up to games, have brought about slamming of our program, which is just as bad and what I was saying. Maybe it is normal in your world for adults to attack each other physically, but it isn't in any I have been involved in, including my days playing football at UT. She was also a problem before that fight...she doesn't deserve anyone making more excuses for her, she needs this harsh reality check and kick in the pants. I hope she gets her life together, but usefulness on a team, is just something I don't see her over coming the odds. She wasn't stellar as a freshman in any way, to think she can improve massively after 2 years away, in a new team, with young proven guards, is really expecting way to much. We also don't know how hard she worked to recover.
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P.S. She didn't have a bad freshman season by any means. It was a lot better than some players who go on to have spectacular careers. In a press conference Holly said she rehabed extremely well and is in great shape.
 
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If Cooper did indeed get kicked out of school for continued misconduct, instead of it being a voluntary transfer like the university is implying, i would hope she and her family are appealing the decision, which they can do according to the universitys student athlete handbook.

If she has to sit out yet another year for another ncaa school, can you imagine how tough it will be for her to get back into game shape and be able to perform at the level that one needs to be at to be competitive at the div 1 level..she would be better off going d2 and being able to play right away
 
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one thought is how hard it must be for an athlete to be unable to play for a year but still stay close to the individuals, and the team as an equal.
 
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stllvf said:
one thought is how hard it must be for an athlete to be unable to play for a year but still stay close to the individuals, and the team as an equal.
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Transfers and redshirt players for the most part seem to handle it just fine. It's not like this was a situation unique to Te'a.
 
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LadyVol1908 said:
I wonder why they didn't just recommend a suspension?
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The university was going to enforce action if the athletic department didn't. The altercation wasn't spontaneous, it seemed to be planned. I just wonder how Jaime was affected.
 
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gule said:
Holly lied, the Season died.

We'll miss you bigtime, Coop.
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Look, I get your deal is that you like to be the guy that stirs the proverbial pot in your posts and all but calling Holly a liar is just a bridge too far.

Do you know the full legal story behind this scenario and what kind of privacy issues, legal constraints and the like that might have been in play? Barring that, can you understand a coach deciding to be discrete in revealin information in order to protect the interests of ALL parties involved in this situation?

Sometimes, it might be useful to resist the urge of making another lame pun or "joke." You will have many other opportunities but this situation is one to just lay off the "Holly lied" crap.

And seriously, with three AA candidates returning and two highly regarded freshman PG coming in plus a pair of quality redshirt post players, you think Te'a has really killed the season?
 
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Wow, if Jamie was involved, was she a victim or promoter...this is starting to look kinda scary...
 
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dtnvol said:
Wow, if Jamie was involved, was she a victim or promoter...this is starting to look kinda scary...
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If Jaime was the promoter she would have been the one kicked off the team, not Te'a. Jaime is one of the nicest people I know. I could never imagine her starting a violent altercation.
 
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BMvol27 said:
If Jaime was the promoter she would have been the one kicked off the team, not Te'a. Jaime is one of the nicest people I know. I could never imagine her starting a violent altercation.
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Yes, that is true...although she is a tough-nut, her temper has always seemed mild manner on the court...i'm hoping we can get to the season without anymore sursprises...GO LVOLS
 
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