Cory Stanton new PG

[bleedingTNorange]

Found a pretty good quality video on YouTube on him I'm on a phone so can't post link. Just type in Cory Stanton to Clemson, seems like a good driver, nice shot and a very well spoken young man. Would readily like to know or see more on him as I'm very interested as to what we should expect from him.

Note: found it interesting he was going to wright state out of hs but their coach went to Clemson and offered cory a scholarship there.

Welcome to rocky top Cory!

 

[calban]

Tatus leaves after this season leaving an opening in the starting line up. Perfect opportunity to move Trae Golden to the 2 where he belongs. Stanton will start next season.

Stanton will be a starter at PG next January if Martin can get him back to what he was coming out of HS. Pass first- defensive minded.
He'll be the quickest guy off the dribble on the team until Landry gets here.
If Martin can get him to focus on creating plays and averaging 10 assists a game feeding Stokes, he'll be just what we need.
He'll also get Golden to his natural position, SG and McRae to the bench where he belongs.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Stanton will be a starter at PG next January if Martin can get him back to what he was coming out of HS. Pass first- defensive minded.
He'll be the quickest guy off the dribble on the team until Landry gets here.
If Martin can get him to focus on creating plays and averaging 10 assists a game feeding Stokes, he'll be just what we need.
He'll also get Golden to his natural position, SG and McRae to the bench where he belongs.

If Stanton can be the guy everybody is talking about we are honestly a very good team IMO. If he is a 7ppg 8 ast 2to 40% from 3 type of guy like people are saying that's huge. I have seen the praise for his defense and quickness so that's not what I'm concerned about, I'm just curious the shot and passing! IF he is a player that can produce that stay line though as I said I truly think we're a very good team. You'd have a lineup like this:

Pg: Stanton/golden/washpun
Sg: golden/McRae
Sf: Richardson/Edwards
Pf: stokes/maymon
C: maymon/hall/yemi

Being able to move trae to the 2 would be huge. We become a much better defensive team as trae won't have as much trouble guarding a 2. If we were to add Mitchell, wow that'd be awesome, but not getting my hopes up. I just really hope Stanton is what people are saying, in just skeptical I guess as to why he'd walk on here if he's THAT good.

 

[calban]

I just really hope Stanton is what people are saying, in just skeptical I guess as to why he'd walk on here if he's THAT good.

Stanton is walking on so that he can begin practicing with the team as soon as he is enrolled and cleared and be ready next January. No available scholarships.
He's from TN, played for Darden and I would say it's his dream team.
Martin coming here and having been recruited by said at MS would also have something to do with it.
He's a win win. If he isn't what we're hoping there's nothing lost.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Stanton is walking on so that he can begin practicing with the team as soon as he is enrolled and cleared and be ready next January. No available scholarships.
He's from TN, played for Darden and I would say it's his dream team.
Martin coming here and having been recruited by said at MS would also have something to do with it.
He's a win win. If he isn't what we're hoping there's nothing lost.

Oh i completely agree that it is a win win situation for tennessee especially at a position of need. I am just somewhat baffled i guess as to why come here with no scholarship. I get the it being your in state school, and probably the team that he grew up wanting to play for but coming without being on scholarship is a huge choice. Maybe he is a very good student, and being from tennessee probably qualifies for HOPE maybe, im not exactly sure of all the requirements but maybe that's a reason that the tuition cost arent actually a factor. Either way, i am very happy he is here it is an absolute no lose situation for the team and the upside is huge if he is the player he sounds like he is expected to be.

 

[calban]

Oh i completely agree that it is a win win situation for tennessee especially at a position of need. I am just somewhat baffled i guess as to why come here with no scholarship. I get the it being your in state school, and probably the team that he grew up wanting to play for but coming without being on scholarship is a huge choice. Maybe he is a very good student, and being from tennessee probably qualifies for HOPE maybe, im not exactly sure of all the requirements but maybe that's a reason that the tuition cost arent actually a factor. Either way, i am very happy he is here it is an absolute no lose situation for the team and the upside is huge if he is the player he sounds like he is expected to be.

Johhny Darden, either the best PG, or one of them, to ever grace the TN hardwood is a man of few words.

You won't find many of his comments posted out there.

When asked about Stanton, following his coach to clemson, Johnny said this.

“I think Coach Brownell would agree he was a steal when they got him,” said Springfield coach Johnny Darden of Stanton, who averaged about 24 points, eight rebounds and eight assists this season.

Coming from Johnny Darden, that's a pretty good resume and a mouth full.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Mr. Darden was a little bit before my time so i was unable to watch him play but from everything i have ever heard about the man was truly one of the best to play here. That is definitely some high praise on his part, thanks for finding that quote. At the very least i am very intrigued as to stanton's game and if he can return to form out of hs. i really am looking forward to hearing about him in practice, and hopefully getting a chance to see him some before next year.

 

[calban]

Mr. Darden was a little bit before my time so i was unable to watch him play but from everything i have ever heard about the man was truly one of the best to play here. That is definitely some high praise on his part, thanks for finding that quote. At the very least i am very intrigued as to stanton's game and if he can return to form out of hs. i really am looking forward to hearing about him in practice, and hopefully getting a chance to see him some before next year.

I think there will a lot of us old geezers out there pulling for him and hoping he can extend the Dirt Dobber's legacy.
would tickle me pink.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

There's nothing wrong with that at all.

 

[Sudden Impact]

Mr. Darden was a little bit before my time so i was unable to watch him play but from everything i have ever heard about the man was truly one of the best to play here. That is definitely some high praise on his part, thanks for finding that quote. At the very least i am very intrigued as to stanton's game and if he can return to form out of hs. i really am looking forward to hearing about him in practice, and hopefully getting a chance to see him some before next year.

Followed Darden in HS and at UT....He was amazing....

Eyes in the back of his head.....laser passes and good defense....

Controlled the flow of the game....If his take on this guy is good....This kid will be solid.....May be a good fit for CCM's style....

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Let's hope some of his talent and iq rub off on Stanton.

 

[volunteers12]

Darden, yes, one of the best point guards to ever attend Tennessee, infact, I believe he still holds the all time assist record if I'm not mistaking. Stanton, yes, he's that good. The reason that there is no scholarship available, well, it is January and of course, he will be eligible to receive a scholarship next year and I'm sure he will. Trust me, this guy will start for the volunteers next year. I would be extremely surprised. Let's think about it, Tatum leaves, Golden IS NOT a true point guard, Stanton, clearly is. I'm not sure I see the argument here, plain as day. I just hope Stokes can get himself in shape and is as big as a contribuor as he's expected to be.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Darden, yes, one of the best point guards to ever attend Tennessee, infact, I believe he still holds the all time assist record if I'm not mistaking. Stanton, yes, he's that good. The reason that there is no scholarship available, well, it is January and of course, he will be eligible to receive a scholarship next year and I'm sure he will. Trust me, this guy will start for the volunteers next year. I would be extremely surprised. Let's think about it, Tatum leaves, Golden IS NOT a true point guard, Stanton, clearly is. I'm not sure I see the argument here, plain as day. I just hope Stokes can get himself in shape and is as big as a contribuor as he's expected to be.

unless i am mistaken he could be put on scholarship right now if we had one he just wouldnt be eligible to play. as far as after the year is over, we also do not have a scholarship available they are all accounted for unless someone is being dismissed or transferring. that is why i have said i am surprised that he is willing to come here as just a walk-on, but like ive said maybe he gets help from the state, or hope scholarship to help out with his costs.

i think the arguement is only this, is stanton a better pg than golden is? if stanton is as quick, and as good a defender as people say and has a decent stroke than i would be all for him starting at point and sliding golden to the 2. now if he isnt that player, just because he is a pg doesnt mean he should start over golden it just will be a matter of if he still is the player it sounds like he was coming out of hs.

 

[volunteers12]

I watched him play all season last year, and I've from Tennessee so I watched Golden last year and this year as well. Stanton is a much better point guard, he's quicker, he jams the basketball on the defensive end, full court, and he is a leader on the floor. Cory "turned down" Tennessee when Bruce Pearl told him he was number 2 on his list in the late signing period second only to Josh Selby. He had his opportuniy to be here on scholarship already. He also had the opportunity to go to Mississippi State after he decided to leave Clemson and chose to be closer to home. Bottom line, this guy can play with the best of them, period. Trust me, Trae Golden knows who he is.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

i did some searching and found his complete stats from last year...im gonna translate them into if he were starting and playing 30mpg because im bored...just a few interesting stats by % first...

fg-34.5%
3pt-21%
ft-67%

translation stats:
mpg: 30
ppg: 6.72
rpg: 1.68
ast:2.12
t.o: 1.78
spg: 1.7
pf: 4.24


maybe he has shown flashes, or maybe has improved alot but judging off of those numbers this is not a guy i would prefer starting over golden. it could be one of those things where if in the flow of the game for awhile his stats may look somewhat different. some of the things that trouble me though is the shooting. 34% from the field and 21% from 3 will not cut it, also i really like for your pg to be your best ft shooter and he is not at 67%. the one other thing that scares me away a little bit is his ast:to ratio is pretty high youd like it to be atleast 2:1. With all that said you never really know until it happens, and maybe he has improved alot or will improve alot. worst case scenario though is that he is a scout team and we didnt use a scholarship on him.

 

[TBrown]

I heard he's a solid guard, even better defender, but lazy. Don't see how the lazy part meshes with what Cuonzo is building here so hopefully he gets his head on straight. Also heard he's definitely ACC/SEC caliber when he wants to play.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

I heard he's a solid guard, even better defender, but lazy. Don't see how the lazy part meshes with what Cuonzo is building here so hopefully he gets his head on straight. Also heard he's definitely ACC/SEC caliber when he wants to play.

yea i dont know call me a skeptic but i would be very surprised if he is the player people are making him out to be. maybe he has changed alot since the player people saw play in high school i dont really know, but i am not expecting big things from him, which is fine since hes not wasting a scholly. let me say i hope i am dead wrong because if he can be the player people are saying that he is and he can start at pg for us and be better than golden then we just got much better.

 

[calban]

i did some searching and found his complete stats from last year...im gonna translate them into if he were starting and playing 30mpg because im bored...just a few interesting stats by % first...

fg-34.5%
3pt-21%
ft-67%

translation stats:
mpg: 30
ppg: 6.72
rpg: 1.68
ast:2.12
t.o: 1.78
spg: 1.7
pf: 4.24


maybe he has shown flashes, or maybe has improved alot but judging off of those numbers this is not a guy i would prefer starting over golden. it could be one of those things where if in the flow of the game for awhile his stats may look somewhat different. some of the things that trouble me though is the shooting. 34% from the field and 21% from 3 will not cut it, also i really like for your pg to be your best ft shooter and he is not at 67%. the one other thing that scares me away a little bit is his ast:to ratio is pretty high youd like it to be atleast 2:1. With all that said you never really know until it happens, and maybe he has improved alot or will improve alot. worst case scenario though is that he is a scout team and we didnt use a scholarship on him.

You have to factor in that it was Brownell's first year at Clemson and he was looking for offense. He was in a situation similar to Martin's, where he didn't have players that fit, motion offense.
Stanton may have been encouraged to take more shots than he should in his back up role.
He is very quick and a threat to score off the dribble.
Martin will expect him to focus on creating plays and leading the conference in assists. If he doesn't do it its one of those either or situations.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

You have to factor in that it was Brownell's first year at Clemson and he was looking for offense. He was in a situation similar to Martin's, where he didn't have players that fit, motion offense.
Stanton may have been encouraged to take more shots than he should in his back up role.
He is very quick and a threat to score off the dribble.
Martin will expect him to focus on creating plays and leading the conference in assists. If he doesn't do it its one of those either or situations.

he averaged around 3 shots per game which if you triple like you would his minutes your looking at 8 or 9 shots for 30 minutes. thats not too high but is somewhat high for someone that you are looking for to primarily be a penetrator and creater. i just always worry somewhat about a pg that doesnt have a shot, it doesnt matter how quick you are if the defense gives you 5 feet you have to be able to hit the shot. like you said though it honestly really doesnt matter because we arent losing a scholarship over him, so at worst he is a quick guard that will give our players some good practice time. i just am trying to keep people level headed so if he does come in next year and things dont go good they dont say hey where is this all-sec/acc pg people were talking about.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

You have to factor in that it was Brownell's first year at Clemson and he was looking for offense. He was in a situation similar to Martin's, where he didn't have players that fit, motion offense.
Stanton may have been encouraged to take more shots than he should in his back up role.
He is very quick and a threat to score off the dribble.
Martin will expect him to focus on creating plays and leading the conference in assists. If he doesn't do it its one of those either or situations.

the other problem i see is that golen isnt a scrub what so ever, and right now is our best player. he has made the transition nicely now after 2 years to a pg which with his size is going to be his best position. not many people realize this but TRAE GOLDEN leads the sec in assists! so to uproot an offensive threat, that leads the sec in assists, and is still improving at pg for a walk-on the kid would have to be pretty damn good.

 

[calban]

the other problem i see is that golen isnt a scrub what so ever, and right now is our best player. he has made the transition nicely now after 2 years to a pg which with his size is going to be his best position. not many people realize this but TRAE GOLDEN leads the sec in assists! so to uproot an offensive threat, that leads the sec in assists, and is still improving at pg for a walk-on the kid would have to be pretty damn good.

I agree. Golden has made a pretty good transition to PG.
I'm pretty sure that Martin wants him to play the 2 though.
That's why you'll continue to see more minutes for Washpun and more of Golden at SG.
It gets McRae off the floor who is a complete bust on defense.
Washpun DOES have to improve his ball handling and cut down on his turnovers to make it work.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

I agree. Golden has made a pretty good transition to PG.
I'm pretty sure that Martin wants him to play the 2 though.
That's why you'll continue to see more minutes for Washpun and more of Golden at SG.
It gets McRae off the floor who is a complete bust on defense.
Washpun DOES have to improve his ball handling and cut down on his turnovers to make it work.

you are exactly right about washpun every time he comes into the game the opposing d jumps right into a full court press. it is very frustrating to KNOW that it is coming and still turn the ball over, that needs to get fixed quickly.

 

[cncchris33]

the other problem i see is that golen isnt a scrub what so ever, and right now is our best player. he has made the transition nicely now after 2 years to a pg which with his size is going to be his best position. not many people realize this but TRAE GOLDEN leads the sec in assists! so to uproot an offensive threat, that leads the sec in assists, and is still improving at pg for a walk-on the kid would have to be pretty damn good.

Trae's natural position is the SG position. This is where he will be at his best. He is a scorer that is continually learning to play PG. His defense is more effective at the 2 as well. If there is am effective option at PG next year that will allow him to move, that is what you will see. It doesn't even have to be a better option than Trae, just a net positive over what we are getting at SG right now.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Trae's natural position is the SG position. This is where he will be at his best. He is a scorer that is continually learning to play PG. His defense is more effective at the 2 as well. If there is am effective option at PG next year that will allow him to move, that is what you will see. It doesn't even have to be a better option than Trae, just a net positive over what we are getting at SG right now.

i dont agree with this 100%, it all just depends on how it effects the team, as in which lineup is better. basically you'll have richardson and mcrae at the 2 and 3and golden at the point next year. if you put stanton at the point and golden at the 2 and richardson at the 3 i dont think we are as good. i really dont think stanton is as good as people are thinking he is going to be, if he was he wouldnt be going to a school with a good pg already, and a great one coming in the following year. if i am wrong and stanton is a GOOD sec caliber pg then yes we are better off with golden playing the 2. the other factor here is golden is projected at the nba level as a pg, i dont care if his position in hs was sg you can get away with a 6' shooting guard in hs. if he EVER wants to play in the league he will be a pg, so most likely he will bust his a$$ in the off-season, just like he did this off-season, to get quicker on both ends of the floor and become a complete pg.

 

[cncchris33]

i dont agree with this 100%, it all just depends on how it effects the team, as in which lineup is better. basically you'll have richardson and mcrae at the 2 and 3and golden at the point next year. if you put stanton at the point and golden at the 2 and richardson at the 3 i dont think we are as good. i really dont think stanton is as good as people are thinking he is going to be, if he was he wouldnt be going to a school with a good pg already, and a great one coming in the following year. if i am wrong and stanton is a GOOD sec caliber pg then yes we are better off with golden playing the 2. the other factor here is golden is projected at the nba level as a pg, i dont care if his position in hs was sg you can get away with a 6' shooting guard in hs. if he EVER wants to play in the league he will be a pg, so most likely he will bust his a$$ in the off-season, just like he did this off-season, to get quicker on both ends of the floor and become a complete pg.

Your first statement is the whole point I was trying to make..."How it affects the team".

My point was it will depend on the difference of how much better we are with Stanton at PG vs McRae at SG. That is all unknown until he's gets out there. Right now, McRae is playing poorly on both ends. If Stanton is good enough to hold down the PG position and be solid (he doesn't need to be all-SEC), it allows us to move Golden to SG. Stanton doesn't have to be a better PG than Golden. He just needs to be a better PG than Jordan is a SG. That will be the best benefit to the team because it will allow our best scorer to play his natural and most comfortable position. Your lineup scenario (Golden at PG, McRae at SG, and Richardson at SF), will require McRae to really improve and get stronger. There is a chance he's not here next year too. I could also see Maymon starting at the SF with Stokes at the PF.

I don't know how good Stanton will be, and I'm also not ready to call Landry "great". We throw words like that around like its commonplace. Right now, I would call him solid. He has a lot to improve on. He still has as much to prove, if not more than Stanton, though he has more time.