Cost of the sec network

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AllVolYall said:
Yep. Just like they did many years ago with boxing. $$$ will chase many away from following the sport. That's not good for the game and SEC in the long rum IMO.
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Completely different scenarios. This is NOT Pay-Per-View. It's a full time channel that will be a part of the vast majority of people's cable systems. Inside SEC states, it'll be on basic cable. Outside, it'll be on a sports tier. Like BTN, it may take a couple of years to get full penetration, but it'll get there.
 
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they will operate as separate companies for the near future,and DTV will be a company under the AT&T umbrella,just as Uverse already is... and as far as the FCC goes,they are still dealing with the Comcast merger with Time Warner,the AT&T merger with DTV will probably hurry both approvals up,as both will have 30 million+ subscribers,so there will be no monopoly...It will be like cell phones,AT&T or Verizon,with a few smaller companies added in for variety,TV will have another giant to add to the mix though in Dish TV,with 10-15 million subscribers... I see no way these don't get approved... but it will be business as usual on both sides until the approval comes,so if you don't have SECTV on DTV,you will have to wait until they come to an agreement,which they will before the season starts...
 
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can anyone tell me if the SEC nework will be the only way to watch the sec this year.I mean,will CBS,ESPN not carry any sec games at all?
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
You can still stream games online though....right? I just got rid of my cable (Charter) because it was crap. I just do high speed internet...excuse me internets. I use Chromecast and Aereo...saves a ton of money and headache.
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I was able to stream all games last year, however some of them were not easy to find and/or setup. There was a person who shared streams on facebook, but you needed to prove you were a real fan by having tons of UT stuff all over your facebook page. I must not have had enough since he did not except my friend request.

Not sure how this year is going to be, but I would assume someone will be streaming games this year. Finding the streams might be the most difficult task this year.
 
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volstuff37641 said:
can anyone tell me if the SEC nework will be the only way to watch the sec this year.I mean,will CBS,ESPN not carry any sec games at all?
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CBS and ESPN will still have SEC games. The SEC Network will have either 2 or 3 games (can't remember) each week.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
Completely different scenarios. This is NOT Pay-Per-View. It's a full time channel that will be a part of the vast majority of people's cable systems. Inside SEC states, it'll be on basic cable. Outside, it'll be on a sports tier. Like BTN, it may take a couple of years to get full penetration, but it'll get there.
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No it won't. It ill be bundled ino a tiered package, like for instance the "sports package" at Time Warner cable. It will not now or ever be what you described as "basic cable". Basic cable does not include any premium channels, never hasm, never will. The SEC network will be a premium channel, bundled into a tiered (i.e. yo pay extra)package that you will need to ay exra for. If yu already have the Sports Paqckage, expect the monthly cost for it to increase once the SEC network is added.
 
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Rooster1 said:
No it won't. It ill be bundled ino a tiered package, like for instance the "sports package" at Time Warner cable. It will not now or ever be what you described as "basic cable". Basic cable does not include any premium channels, never hasm, never will. The SEC network will be a premium channel, bundled into a tiered (i.e. yo pay extra)package that you will need to ay exra for. If yu already have the Sports Paqckage, expect the monthly cost for it to increase once the SEC network is added.
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Like I posted previously, that is not correct.

Inside the SEC footprint, carriers will have to have it on a basic tier, wherever ESPN is carried. That is a condition that ESPN is requiring cable companies to agree to as part of carrying the network.

Outside of SEC territory, you're right, they will be allowed to carry it on a sports tier. But contractually, cable providers will not be allowed to do that in SEC states.
 
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Rooster1 said:
No it won't. It ill be bundled ino a tiered package, like for instance the "sports package" at Time Warner cable. It will not now or ever be what you described as "basic cable". Basic cable does not include any premium channels, never hasm, never will. The SEC network will be a premium channel, bundled into a tiered (i.e. yo pay extra)package that you will need to ay exra for. If yu already have the Sports Paqckage, expect the monthly cost for it to increase once the SEC network is added.
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Dish has placed the SEC Network into their Top 120, that's one of their basic packages.

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I hope Direct TV reaches a deal soon and this doesn't drag out like the Pac 12 Network situation. I switched from Dish to Direct about 6 months ago cause Dish Network's receivers are junk imo. the double receiver we had kept freezing up.
 
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#85
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I finally just switched to DISH. I can't sit around and wait for them to make a deal.
 
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With service providers merging, we will probably see monopoly prices in a regions soon.
 
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VOL6479 said:
I hope Direct TV reaches a deal soon and this doesn't drag out like the Pac 12 Network situation. I switched from Dish to Direct about 6 months ago cause Dish Network's receivers are junk imo. the double receiver we had kept freezing up.
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I had Driectv for years, then I switched to comcast because of the deal they gave me on TV/Phone/internet. Their cable tv is ok, but their high speed internet is the best. I kept the internet, and switched to dish, the picture is amazing, and I have the whole home Hopper, that's better than any receiver that I ever had with comcast or Directv. Plus, the price is cheaper with Dish too. The most amazing thing is I can watch Dish anywhere on my IPad! I am very happy with Dish and I don't have to worry about not having the SEC Network this season.
 
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I don't know how true this is, or if the woman knew what she was talking about, but I was talking to comcast Thursday night and the lady said comcast had reached an agreement and would be carrying it...the only thing still in the air was what type of channel it would be. A premium or a basic sports channel. Once again not for certain but that's at least the surest thing I've heard to this point.
 
#89
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I really wish they had an online subscription you could buy just for football season. Depending on the price I would purchase it. The SEC needs to realize with broadband cable TV is a dying dinosaur.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
Like I posted previously, that is not correct.

Inside the SEC footprint, carriers will have to have it on a basic tier, wherever ESPN is carried. That is a condition that ESPN is requiring cable companies to agree to as part of carrying the network.

Outside of SEC territory, you're right, they will be allowed to carry it on a sports tier. But contractually, cable providers will not be allowed to do that in SEC states.
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Well since the cable companies and Direct TV are still negotiating and not on board yet, you sure know a lot about how those negotiations will end. Dish is the only major outlet signed up so far, and the rest will come on board eventually, but the SEC network will be a premium channel, just like the B10 and PAC12 networks are, meaning it will cost more than you currently pay to watch it. Dish is currently selling it as a basic channel for their 120 lineup, but they are doing so to try and take subscribers from DTV and cable, their position is that only year one is guaranteed, the cable companies and DTV are holding out based upon the price they need to pay per subscriber both inside and outside the SEC footprint. SEC/ESPN is asking for more per subscriber in the footprint than the Big10 is getting in their footprint. It seems like a small amount, but it is around 1.40 a month per customer, not subscriber to carry. Expect the cables and DTV to play hardball and make it part of a sports package to recoup their costs. They will pass that extra 1.40 onto the subscribers for such packages.
 
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Rooster1 said:
Well since the cable companies and Direct TV are still negotiating and not on board yet, you sure know a lot about how those negotiations will end. Dish is the only major outlet signed up so far, and the rest will come on board eventually, but the SEC network will be a premium channel, just like the B10 and PAC12 networks are, meaning it will cost more than you currently pay to watch it. Dish is currently selling it as a basic channel for their 120 lineup, but they are doing so to try and take subscribers from DTV and cable, their position is that only year one is guaranteed, the cable companies and DTV are holding out based upon the price they need to pay per subscriber both inside and outside the SEC footprint. SEC/ESPN is asking for more per subscriber in the footprint than the Big10 is getting in their footprint. It seems like a small amount, but it is around 1.40 a month per customer, not subscriber to carry. Expect the cables and DTV to play hardball and make it part of a sports package to recoup their costs. They will pass that extra 1.40 onto the subscribers for such packages.
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I know what ESPN is demanding as part of negotiations.

But what I don't think you understand is that in the Big Ten and PAC 12 footprints, their channels ARE on basic cable. Yes, to those of us in the south, they're on a sports tier, but in those areas, they're on basic. That's one reason ESPN is demanding the same for the SEC Network.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
I know what ESPN is demanding as part of negotiations.

But what I don't think you understand is that in the Big Ten and PAC 12 footprints, their channels ARE on basic cable. Yes, to those of us in the south, they're on a sports tier, but in those areas, they're on basic. That's one reason ESPN is demanding the same for the SEC Network.
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Why the discrepancy? Does ESPN simply work from the premise that, because we are SEC fans and we have the reputation of being more rabid college football fans than the rest of the country, they have the right to charge a premium price, one way or the other, for SEC Channel access?
 
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Volosaurus rex said:
Why the discrepancy? Does ESPN simply work from the premise that, because we are SEC fans and we have the reputation of being more rabid college football fans than the rest of the country, they have the right to charge a premium price, one way or the other, for SEC Channel access?
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Not sure what you mean. The model for charging cable companies for in-market/out-of-market rates is the same one that BTN and P12N use. They both charge far more inside the conference footprint and demand to be on a better tier there than outside.
 
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I believe that I misread your original point. If you meant that Pac 12 and Big Ten Networks are considered basic cable channels within states covered by those conferences but are charged as premium channels elsewhere, then what you said makes perfect sense. On the other hand, my local U-verse sales rep said that the SEC Channel will automatically become part of the U-300 "sports package, here in Nashville, effective August 4th," so, to coin a bad metaphor, it still sounds about as clear as Mississippi mud.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
Not sure what you mean. The model for charging cable companies for in-market/out-of-market rates is the same one that BTN and P12N use. They both charge far more inside the conference footprint and demand to be on a better tier there than outside.
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Is the Donghorn Network still a hold up for Comcast?
 
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Rooster1 said:
Well since the cable companies and Direct TV are still negotiating and not on board yet, you sure know a lot about how those negotiations will end. Dish is the only major outlet signed up so far, and the rest will come on board eventually, but the SEC network will be a premium channel, just like the B10 and PAC12 networks are, meaning it will cost more than you currently pay to watch it. Dish is currently selling it as a basic channel for their 120 lineup, but they are doing so to try and take subscribers from DTV and cable, their position is that only year one is guaranteed, the cable companies and DTV are holding out based upon the price they need to pay per subscriber both inside and outside the SEC footprint. SEC/ESPN is asking for more per subscriber in the footprint than the Big10 is getting in their footprint. It seems like a small amount, but it is around 1.40 a month per customer, not subscriber to carry. Expect the cables and DTV to play hardball and make it part of a sports package to recoup their costs. They will pass that extra 1.40 onto the subscribers for such packages.
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Again checkout Dish, it is NOT part of a sports subscription. It is part of their top 120 package, and that's regardless of where you live.

SEC Network
 
#97
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Question for y'all that have Dish: who do you use for internet? I have yet to find a comparable alternative to Comcast. DSL is sooooo slow.
 
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Haphazard Harm said:
Question for y'all that have Dish: who do you use for internet? I have yet to find a comparable alternative to Comcast. DSL is sooooo slow.
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I thought Dish started providing their own high speed internet? I had Dish and used Comcast internet for years, Still do with Direct TV now
 
#99
#99
I have direct with about every channel you can get but seldom turn it on> I watch nascar and every SEC game on vipboxus.co its free and carries almost anything you can find on tv.
 
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Haphazard Harm said:
Question for y'all that have Dish: who do you use for internet? I have yet to find a comparable alternative to Comcast. DSL is sooooo slow.
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I stayed with Comcast for phone and internet. I told them I was disconnecting because they did not offer the SEC Network, they said OK and cut my internet and phone almost in half to stay with them. They have the best internet going in my area, IMO.
 
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