Could we be headed for global chaos? Significant fuel shortages? Severe food shortages?

Impact the poor? Countries will be less willing and able to export food. That affects all of us.


I realize I worded that poorly and yes, it will affect everybody. I do, however, believe it will affect the poor way more then it will the wealthy. The advice I'm taking to heart is that right now is a good time to go ahead and start learning how to be self-sufficient and less dependent on others. My wife thinks I'm going through a midlife crisis. We just bought up some land and I plan on teaching my kids everything there is to know about growing our own food and being as self-sufficient as possible.
 
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I realize I worded that poorly and yes, it will affect everybody. I do, however, believe it will affect the poor way more then it will the wealthy. The advice I'm taking to heart is that right now is a good time to go ahead and start learning how to be self-sufficient and less dependent on others. My wife thinks I'm going through a midlife crisis. We just bought up some land and I plan on teaching my kids everything there is to know about growing our own food and being as self-sufficient as possible.


I am glad to hear you are doing this. Remember, it takes a full acre vegetable garden with spring, summer, and fall crop to feed a family of 4 for a year.

As for the videos posted, add to this the drought in the U.S. southwest that has diminished herds, and the high cost of fertilizer making some farmers not fertilize as much leading to lower yields, and you have a mess even here. What this means is that 3rd world nations in particular will not receive the food they are used to seeing this winter particularly. City dwellers will be especially hard hit.
 
I am glad to hear you are doing this. Remember, it takes a full acre vegetable garden with spring, summer, and fall crop to feed a family of 4 for a year.

As for the videos posted, add to this the drought in the U.S. southwest that has diminished herds, and the high cost of fertilizer making some farmers not fertilize as much leading to lower yields, and you have a mess even here. What this means is that 3rd world nations in particular will not receive the food they are used to seeing this winter particularly. City dwellers will be especially hard hit.


Its amazing how much you can do with a small amount of gardening space. I have been reminded of this by a friend of mine who recently moved to Ga from California. He only has an acre or so but he utilizes it very well. They basically grow 80% of what they eat.
I have a lot to learn but I figure now is as good a time as any. If nothing else I have found a hobby that helps to ease the stress that comes with owning your own business. We are building an off-grid "glamping" site complete with a solar powered well. The plan is to put multiple solar powered wells on the property so I have access to all the water I need for irrigation purposes. My vision is to one day, if it gets really bad, have a place that I can help grow food for locals who havent been as fortunate as I.

And yes, I agree, 3rd world countries will feel the impact first and the hardest. That's more what I was implying when I said it would affect the poor.
 
Its amazing how much you can do with a small amount of gardening space. I have been reminded of this by a friend of mine who recently moved to Ga from California. He only has an acre or so but he utilizes it very well. They basically grow 80% of what they eat.
I have a lot to learn but I figure now is as good a time as any. If nothing else I have found a hobby that helps to ease the stress that comes with owning your own business. We are building an off-grid "glamping" site complete with a solar powered well. The plan is to put multiple solar powered wells on the property so I have access to all the water I need for irrigation purposes. My vision is to one day, if it gets really bad, have a place that I can help grow food for locals who havent been as fortunate as I.

And yes, I agree, 3rd world countries will feel the impact first and the hardest. That's more what I was implying when I said it would affect the poor.

One of the best bang for your buck gardening techniques for small space is the 3 sisters style garden. Couldn't believe how much I got out of it.

Plant it like this: C= Corn, S= Squash, B= Pole Beans. Start with a 6X6 foot block of cord planted as shown. Plant about 4 corn seeds per hole and thin to the strongest two in each hole. When the corn is 6 to 8 inches high plant your squash and beans. Just do a row of beans on the outside of the block of corn as shown. You can do more blocks like this, just space them end to end 2 feet apart. Very bountiful and not as many weeds. Corn pollinates beautifully using this method. Don't use any other 3 sisters method. This one is the bomb.


S S
BC C C CB
BC C C CB
BC C C CB
BC C C CB
S S

****For some reason it moved my "S" put the squash on each corner of the plot.
 
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One of the best bang for your buck gardening techniques for small space is the 3 sisters style garden. Couldn't believe how much I got out of it.

Plant it like this: C= Corn, S= Squash, B= Pole Beans. Start with a 6X6 foot block of cord planted as shown. Plant about 4 corn seeds per hole and thin to the strongest two in each hole. When the corn is 6 to 8 inches high plant your squash and beans. Just do a row of beans on the outside of the block of corn as shown. You can do more blocks like this, just space them end to end 2 feet apart. Very bountiful and not as many weeds. Corn pollinates beautifully using this method. Don't use any other 3 sisters method. This one is the bomb.


S S
BC C C CB
BC C C CB
BC C C CB
BC C C CB
S S

****For some reason it moved my "S" put the squash on each corner of the plot.


Thanks! Thats some great info!! I'll definitly have to give that method a shot ....I'm fairly green (no green-thumb yet) to gardening so I will welcome any tips I can get๐Ÿ˜
 
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I realize I worded that poorly and yes, it will affect everybody. I do, however, believe it will affect the poor way more then it will the wealthy. The advice I'm taking to heart is that right now is a good time to go ahead and start learning how to be self-sufficient and less dependent on others. My wife thinks I'm going through a midlife crisis. We just bought up some land and I plan on teaching my kids everything there is to know about growing our own food and being as self-sufficient as possible.
During the Great Depression if was the upper middle class - wealthy that were jumping out of windows. The poor farmers in East TN never noticed
 
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Some of the factors:

1) Shortages for items in general have been ongoing since the economic shutdown over the pandemic. China continues to do shutdowns.

2) Incredibly high fuel costs have lead to much higher costs for fertilizer and diesel. Some farmers simply cannot afford their fuel bills. Some have skipped fertilizing which will result in a poorer harvest. 1 ton of fertilizer cost about $400 last year. It's over a thousand a ton this year.

3) China had a poorer grain harvest last year due to floods followed by drought. They have been sucking up extra grains.

4) Inflation, inflation, inflation.

5) The war in Ukraine. Some farmers did not plant. Some farmers will not be able to harvest. Up to 50 percent of Ukraine's grain harvest may be lost, and they feed a lot of people. Other nations may take note of this impeding disaster and launch military action against Russia.

6) Rumors of a sharp diesel shortage later this summer could lead to infrequent deliveries of needed items across the U.S. This could greatly affect the grain harvest as well.

7) What's the deal with the food processing plant fires and such?

Potential results:

1) The world wide grain shortage could result in food shortages so severe that people simply cannot get enough carbs. Riots in 3rd world countries, even revolutions may result from this. Here, the shortage will likely result in people resorting to other carbs like potatoes and fruits, which may even lead to shortages for even these items later this summer and fall.

2) An expanding war in Europe. World war III. Some global powers may no longer sit by as their store shelves become more empty and their farmers can't afford fertilizer and fuel. Russia may get wiped out because of this.

3) The political upheaval. Many in power will pay the price for this. Violence, getting voted out, maybe even being drug out into the streets for their short sightedness.


Stock up on extra dry carbs. Stock up on canned goods. Plant a vegetable garden if you can, and keep your powder dry.

You have to destroy it before you can build it back better.
 
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Do you think that's why we don't even blink about sending billions every month to Ukraine??
I think our politicians think they can print money at whatever pace they want and either don't believe it will come back to bite them or don't really care. I think politicians only care about enriching themselves and don't give two sh!ts about the American citizens.
 
I think our politicians think they can print money at whatever pace they want and either don't believe it will come back to bite them or don't really care. I think politicians only care about enriching themselves and don't give two sh!ts about the American citizens.


Agreed. I'd love to know how much of that Ukraine funding is finding its way into the politicians pockets
 
Anyone that wants to grow there own food needs to know how to preserve it. Canning is becoming a lost art.

Also, If you have food and many don't, you better be prepared to defend it. If people can't eat, even good people will do bad things.

There's a an old hippy prepper that lives down the road from me, he's stocked and ready for the collapse but he doesn't believe in firearms, eating meat or violence. He's a super nice guy so I'm going to feel real bad taking his sh!t.
 
There's a an old hippy prepper that lives down the road from me, he's stocked and ready for the collapse but he doesn't believe in firearms, eating meat or violence. He's a super nice guy so I'm going to feel real bad taking his sh!t.

But you don't have guns either. Perhaps you forgot about the boating accident?
 
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During the Great Depression if was the upper middle class - wealthy that were jumping out of windows. The poor farmers in East TN never noticed

Yep.
My papaw when he was alive told me stories about the depression. He was 1 out of 13 kids. He said the people like him and his brothers that knew how to hunt and fish never went without food. He sold catfish and frog legs to restaurants for cash. They didn't have much but never went hungry.
 
There's a an old hippy prepper that lives down the road from me, he's stocked and ready for the collapse but he doesn't believe in firearms, eating meat or violence. He's a super nice guy so I'm going to feel real bad taking his sh!t.
That hippy dude will hit you with his bong.
 
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Yep.
My papaw when he was alive told me stories about the depression. He was 1 out of 13 kids. He said the people like him and his brothers that knew how to hunt and fish never went without food. He sold catfish and frog legs to restaurants for cash. They didn't have much but never went hungry.

I'd say that most who lived in the country was able to provide for their family. My mom picked cotton with her sisters and brothers. They hunted and picked walnuts to earn money
 
I think our politicians think they can print money at whatever pace they want and either don't believe it will come back to bite them or don't really care. I think politicians only care about enriching themselves and don't give two sh!ts about the American citizens.

They can print money, it will not effect them. They're immune to inflation.
 
Yep.
My papaw when he was alive told me stories about the depression. He was 1 out of 13 kids. He said the people like him and his brothers that knew how to hunt and fish never went without food. He sold catfish and frog legs to restaurants for cash. They didn't have much but never went hungry.

My grandparents said they were so poor they didn't see any difference between the depression and normal times.
 
 
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