Cultural Marxism and the Birth of Thought Crime

[n_huffhines]

CRT has no place in the K-12 education. Nor does a curriculum that falsely casts our history in a light that hides our blemishes.

There's a very careful balance to be had. How we have overcome our flaws and difficulties is part of what makes America great.

IDK how you can teach an honest history of the US CJS without touching on elements of critical race theory. Teaching that the war on drugs intentionally or unintentionally disproportionately hurts minorities is critical race theory, and it is a fkn indisputable fact, and most importantly it's something we must acknowledge. 2020 was a failed opportunity for both sides of the aisle to get together and fix the biggest problem between LEO's and minorities, yet nobody seemed to even consider the war on drugs. It's the most confounding thing. We got basically nowhere with conversations about qualified immunity, defund the police, and **** like that.

If only we had learned in school about the greatest source of racial problems in the US?...instead of banning the WoD, we're banning that conversation in school.

You can have the careful balance you want with CRT. The two are not mutually exclusive.

 

[Rickyvol77]

IDK how you can teach an honest history of the US without touching on elements of critical race theory. Teaching that the war on drugs intentionally or unintentionally disproportionately hurts minorities is critical race theory, and it is a fkn indisputable fact.

You can have the careful balance you want with CRT. The two are not mutually exclusive.

It’s not a fact though

 

[n_huffhines]

Bump for Huff

It's still suppression of speech and ideas

 

[n_huffhines]

It’s not a fact though

So white people account for the highest rate of drug arrests? Incarcerations? White neighborhoods get the most collateral damage? What are you saying?

Whites are more likely to possess marijuana and blacks are 4x as likely to get arrested for possession. In Minnesota, where race relationships are oh-so-sweet, they are 8x as likely to get arrested.

 

[Vol8188]

So white people account for the highest rate of drug arrests? Incarcerations? White neighborhoods get the most collateral damage? What are you saying?

Whites are more likely to possess marijuana and blacks are 4x as likely to get arrested for possession.

That’s what happened when you commit the highest rate of homicides. Over half of all homicides means you get more attention, as you should

 

[whodeycin85]

So white people account for the highest rate of drug arrests? Incarcerations? White neighborhoods get the most collateral damage? What are you saying?

Whites are more likely to possess marijuana and blacks are 4x as likely to get arrested for possession. In Minnesota, where race relationships are oh-so-sweet, they are 8x as likely to get arrested.

Got a link to those possession numberz

 

[n_huffhines]

That’s what happened when you commit the highest rate of homicides. Over half of all homicides means you get more attention, as you should

Wait, you're saying because a small % of blacks are more murderous than a small % of whites, it's justified that all blacks should have to deal with racial profiling stemming from an unjust, anti-freedom, costly, unnecessry war on drugs?

This is why I don't want to talk to you. You're kind of a mad man.

 

[n_huffhines]

Got a link to those possession numberz

IDK where the ACLU got these figures, but I'm recalling this from the book Drug Crazy by Mike Gray. I'm sure I can find other sources if I want to look more.

 

[Vol8188]

Wait, you're saying because a small % of blacks are more murderous than a small % of whites, it's justified that all blacks should have to deal with racial profiling stemming from an unjust, anti-freedom, costly, unnecessry war on drugs?

This is why I don't want to talk to you. You're kind of a mad man.

Define small %? We should both agree it takes more than a small percentage of criminals in a population for 13% of people to commit the majority of all homicides in a country.

What I am saying is if you live in an area with increased rates of violence, you’re going to see increased police presence. I’m also saying the fact that the homicide rate is so high suggest those areas are under policed.

You’re playing a disingenuous game where you pretend it’s racism that leads to black people being arrested at higher rates for marijuana. The idea being that the police would just ignore it if it were a white guy. People do the same thing with traffic stops. Claiming the police ignore minor offenses from whites people. But you can’t ignore homicide.

If they’re committing murder at such a high rate, getting suspended from schools at higher rates, committing violent crimes at higher rates, why do you believe disparities in marijuana arrests are due to racism instead of behavior? Your stat is an attempt to ignore human behavior and pretend that arrest rates and usage should be aligned. Obviously that’s not true.

 

[AshG]

• A 2021 analysis of marijuana-related arrests in 2020 in New York City’s five boroughs reported that people of color comprised 94 percent of those arrested.
  AMNY.com, People of color made up 94 percent of marijuana arrests by NYPD in 2020, data from Legal Aid says, 2021
• A 2021 analysis from the Milwaukee County, Wisconsin District Attorney’s Office reported that Black Wisconsinites were 4.3 times more likely than their white counterparts to be convicted for having marijuana. The worst disparities in Wisconsin are in Ozaukee County, where Black people are 34.9 times more likely to be arrested and Manitowoc County, where Black people are 29.9 times more likely to be arrested.”
  Wisconsin Public Radio, Report: Black Wisconsinites 4.3 Times More Likely To Be Convicted For Possession Of Marijuana, 2021
• A 2020 analysis by the American Civil Liberties Union, concluded, “Black people are 3.64 times more likely than white people to be arrested for marijuana possession, notwithstanding comparable usage rates.” Authors reported, “In every single state, Black people were more likely to be arrested for marijuana possession, and in some states, Black people were up to six, eight, or almost ten times more likely to be arrested. In 31 states, racial disparities were actually larger in 2018 than they were in 2010.”
  American Civil Liberties Union, A Tale of Two Countries: Racially Targeted Arrests in the Era of Marijuana Reform, 2020

• These findings were similar to the ACLU’s 2013 analysis, which had previously concluded, “[O]n average, a Black person is 3.73 times more likely to be arrested for marijuana possession than a white person, even though Blacks and whites use marijuana at similar rates. Such racial disparities in marijuana possession arrests exist in all regions of the country, in counties large and small, urban and rural, wealthy and poor, and with large and small Black populations. Indeed, in over 96% of counties with more than 30,000 people in which at least 2% of the residents are Black, Blacks are arrested at higher rates than whites for marijuana possession.”
  American Civil Liberties Union, The War on Marijuana in Black and White, 2013
• According to a 2020 analysis by The Washington Post, between 2015 and 2019, there were 3,631 marijuana arrests in the District of Columbia. Eighty-nine percent of those arrested were Black, even as they make up only 45 percent of the city’s population.
  Washington Post, DC legalized marijuana, but one thing didn’t change: Almost everyone arrested on pt charges in Black
• A 2020 analysis of low-level marijuana arrests in Canada in 2015, prior to nationwide legalization, similarly found that Blacks were over-represented in arrests. “We conducted an analysis of cannabis arrest data obtained from police services in five Canadian cities (Vancouver, Calgary, Regina, Ottawa, Halifax) to determine whether racial differences exist in rates of arrest for minor cannabis possession in Canada. With just one exception, we find that both Black and Indigenous people are over-represented amongst those arrested for cannabis possession across the five cities examined.”
  Race, cannabis, and the Canadian war on drugs: An examination of cannabis arrest data by race in five cities, International Journal of Drug Policy, 2020
• A 2020 analysis of marijuana-related citations and arrests in Albany, New York for the time period July 9, 2019 to July 9, 2020 reported, “97 percent of the time, those arrested or ticketed were Black. Only four white people were charged with marijuana offenses during the time period despite nationwide evidence that shows Black and white people use marijuana at roughly the same rate.”
  Albany Times Union, In Albany, marijuana arrests fall almost entirely on Black residents
• A 2018 analysis of marijuana possession arrest data in Alabama for the years 2012-2016 reported, “black people were approximately four times as likely as white people to be arrested for marijuana possession (both misdemeanors and felonies) in 2016 – and five times as likely to be arrested for felony possession. These racial disparities exist[ed] despite robust evidence that white and black people use marijuana at roughly the same rate.”
  Alabama’s War on Marijuana, 2018
• A 2018 analysis of marijuana possession arrest data in Louisiana for the year 2016 reported “large racial disparities in arrest rates across the state that would be difficult to explain by different rates of crime commission alone. For example, in 2016, black people were 2.9 times as likely as white people to be arrested for marijuana possession in Louisiana, despite evidence that black people and white people use marijuana at similar rates. The disparities are much greater in some areas: A black person was six times as likely as a white person to be arrested by the Baton Rouge Police Department (BRPD) for marijuana possession in 2016.”
  Racial Profiling in Louisiana: Unconstitutional and Counterproductive, 2018
• A 2017 analysis of low-level marijuana arrest data for the city of Buffalo for the years 2012 to 2016 reported that 86 percent of those arrested were people of color, but that African Americans and Hispanics constituted less than 50 percent of the city’s population. In Erie county, African Americans comprised 71 percent of low level marijuana arrests, but only 13.5 percent of the population.
  Partnership for the Public Good, Advancing Racial Equity and Public Health: Smarter Marijuana Laws in Western New York, 2017
• A 2017 analysis of Pennsylvania arrest data found that Black adults were 8.2 times more likely than their white counterparts to be arrested for possessing marijuana – up from 6.5 percent in 2010.
  American Civil Liberties Union of Pennsylvania, Cannabis Crackdown, 2017
• A 2017 analysis of New York City arrest data found that Blacks and Latinos comprised 86 percent of those arrested for marijuana possession violations during the years 2014 to 2016.
  Drug Policy Alliance, 60,000 Jim Crow Marijuana Arrests in Mayor de Blasio’s New York, 2017
• A 2017 analysis of New Jersey arrest data found that African Americans are three times more likely than whites to be arrested for violating marijuana possession laws.
  The American Civil Liberties Union, Unequal & Unfair: NJ’s War on Marijuana Users, 2017
• A 2017 analysis of Virginia arrest data determined that African Americans are three times as likely to be arrested for marijuana possession as compared to whites and that this disparity is increasing.
  Capital News Service, The numbers behind racial disparities in marijuana arrests across Virginia
• A separate analysis reported that blacks account for nearly half of all marijuana possession arrests in Virginia, but comprise only 20 percent of the state population.
  Drug Policy Alliance, Racial Disparities in Marijuana arrests in Virginia: 2003-2013, 2015
• Washington Post, The black/white marijuana arrest gap, in nine charts
• An analysis of Maryland arrest data determined that African Americans accounted for 58 percent of all marijuana possession arrested despite comprising only 30 percent of the state’s population.
  The American Civil Liberties Union, The Maryland War on Marijuana in Black and White, 2013
• A 2016 analysis of California arrest figures concluded that police arrested blacks for marijuana offenses at three and half times the rate of whites.
  Drug Policy Alliance, Nearly 500,000 Californians Arrested for Marijuana in Last Decade, 2016
  A prior statewide assessment reported that police in 25 of California’s major cities arrested blacks for marijuana possession violations at rates four to twelve times that of caucasians.
  California NAACP and the Drug Policy Alliance, Arresting Blacks for Marijuana in California: Possession Arrests in 25 Cities, 2006-2008, 2010
• A 2016 review of New York City marijuana arrest data by the Police Reform Organizing Project reported that approximately 85 percent of those arrested for lowest level marijuana possession violations were black or Latino.
  New York Times, Race and marijuana arrests
• Those percentages have been consistent for several years.
  Drug Policy Alliance, Race, Class & Marijuana Arrests in Mayor de Blasio’s Two New Yorks, 2014
• Prior to the enactment of legalization, Colorado police arrested blacks for marijuana possession at 3.1 times the rate of whites.
  Drug Policy Alliance, Marijuana Possession Arrests in Colorado: 1986-2010, 2012
• Prior to the enactment of legalization, Washington police arrested blacks for marijuana possession at 2.9 times the rate of whites.
  Drug Policy Alliance, Costs, Consequences, and Racial Disparities of Possession Arrests in Washington, 1986-2010, 2012
• Prior to the enactment of decriminalization, an analysis of marijuana possession arrest data in Chicago by reported that the ratio of black to white arrests for cannabis possession violations is 15 to 1.
  Chicago Reader, The Grass Gap
• Prior to the enactment of a Washington, DC voter-initiated law depenalizing minor marijuana possession crimes, African Americans were eight times as likely as whites to be arrested for marijuana-related crimes.
  Washington City Paper, Crime states show DC leads nation in per capita marijuana arrests

 

[Vol8188]

• A 2021 analysis of marijuana-related arrests in 2020 in New York City’s five boroughs reported that people of color comprised 94 percent of those arrested.
  AMNY.com, People of color made up 94 percent of marijuana arrests by NYPD in 2020, data from Legal Aid says, 2021
• A 2021 analysis from the Milwaukee County, Wisconsin District Attorney’s Office reported that Black Wisconsinites were 4.3 times more likely than their white counterparts to be convicted for having marijuana. The worst disparities in Wisconsin are in Ozaukee County, where Black people are 34.9 times more likely to be arrested and Manitowoc County, where Black people are 29.9 times more likely to be arrested.”
  Wisconsin Public Radio, Report: Black Wisconsinites 4.3 Times More Likely To Be Convicted For Possession Of Marijuana, 2021
• A 2020 analysis by the American Civil Liberties Union, concluded, “Black people are 3.64 times more likely than white people to be arrested for marijuana possession, notwithstanding comparable usage rates.” Authors reported, “In every single state, Black people were more likely to be arrested for marijuana possession, and in some states, Black people were up to six, eight, or almost ten times more likely to be arrested. In 31 states, racial disparities were actually larger in 2018 than they were in 2010.”
  American Civil Liberties Union, A Tale of Two Countries: Racially Targeted Arrests in the Era of Marijuana Reform, 2020

• These findings were similar to the ACLU’s 2013 analysis, which had previously concluded, “[O]n average, a Black person is 3.73 times more likely to be arrested for marijuana possession than a white person, even though Blacks and whites use marijuana at similar rates. Such racial disparities in marijuana possession arrests exist in all regions of the country, in counties large and small, urban and rural, wealthy and poor, and with large and small Black populations. Indeed, in over 96% of counties with more than 30,000 people in which at least 2% of the residents are Black, Blacks are arrested at higher rates than whites for marijuana possession.”
  American Civil Liberties Union, The War on Marijuana in Black and White, 2013
• According to a 2020 analysis by The Washington Post, between 2015 and 2019, there were 3,631 marijuana arrests in the District of Columbia. Eighty-nine percent of those arrested were Black, even as they make up only 45 percent of the city’s population.
  Washington Post, DC legalized marijuana, but one thing didn’t change: Almost everyone arrested on pt charges in Black
• A 2020 analysis of low-level marijuana arrests in Canada in 2015, prior to nationwide legalization, similarly found that Blacks were over-represented in arrests. “We conducted an analysis of cannabis arrest data obtained from police services in five Canadian cities (Vancouver, Calgary, Regina, Ottawa, Halifax) to determine whether racial differences exist in rates of arrest for minor cannabis possession in Canada. With just one exception, we find that both Black and Indigenous people are over-represented amongst those arrested for cannabis possession across the five cities examined.”
  Race, cannabis, and the Canadian war on drugs: An examination of cannabis arrest data by race in five cities, International Journal of Drug Policy, 2020
• A 2020 analysis of marijuana-related citations and arrests in Albany, New York for the time period July 9, 2019 to July 9, 2020 reported, “97 percent of the time, those arrested or ticketed were Black. Only four white people were charged with marijuana offenses during the time period despite nationwide evidence that shows Black and white people use marijuana at roughly the same rate.”
  Albany Times Union, In Albany, marijuana arrests fall almost entirely on Black residents
• A 2018 analysis of marijuana possession arrest data in Alabama for the years 2012-2016 reported, “black people were approximately four times as likely as white people to be arrested for marijuana possession (both misdemeanors and felonies) in 2016 – and five times as likely to be arrested for felony possession. These racial disparities exist[ed] despite robust evidence that white and black people use marijuana at roughly the same rate.”
  Alabama’s War on Marijuana, 2018
• A 2018 analysis of marijuana possession arrest data in Louisiana for the year 2016 reported “large racial disparities in arrest rates across the state that would be difficult to explain by different rates of crime commission alone. For example, in 2016, black people were 2.9 times as likely as white people to be arrested for marijuana possession in Louisiana, despite evidence that black people and white people use marijuana at similar rates. The disparities are much greater in some areas: A black person was six times as likely as a white person to be arrested by the Baton Rouge Police Department (BRPD) for marijuana possession in 2016.”
  Racial Profiling in Louisiana: Unconstitutional and Counterproductive, 2018
• A 2017 analysis of low-level marijuana arrest data for the city of Buffalo for the years 2012 to 2016 reported that 86 percent of those arrested were people of color, but that African Americans and Hispanics constituted less than 50 percent of the city’s population. In Erie county, African Americans comprised 71 percent of low level marijuana arrests, but only 13.5 percent of the population.
  Partnership for the Public Good, Advancing Racial Equity and Public Health: Smarter Marijuana Laws in Western New York, 2017
• A 2017 analysis of Pennsylvania arrest data found that Black adults were 8.2 times more likely than their white counterparts to be arrested for possessing marijuana – up from 6.5 percent in 2010.
  American Civil Liberties Union of Pennsylvania, Cannabis Crackdown, 2017
• A 2017 analysis of New York City arrest data found that Blacks and Latinos comprised 86 percent of those arrested for marijuana possession violations during the years 2014 to 2016.
  Drug Policy Alliance, 60,000 Jim Crow Marijuana Arrests in Mayor de Blasio’s New York, 2017
• A 2017 analysis of New Jersey arrest data found that African Americans are three times more likely than whites to be arrested for violating marijuana possession laws.
  The American Civil Liberties Union, Unequal & Unfair: NJ’s War on Marijuana Users, 2017
• A 2017 analysis of Virginia arrest data determined that African Americans are three times as likely to be arrested for marijuana possession as compared to whites and that this disparity is increasing.
  Capital News Service, The numbers behind racial disparities in marijuana arrests across Virginia
• A separate analysis reported that blacks account for nearly half of all marijuana possession arrests in Virginia, but comprise only 20 percent of the state population.
  Drug Policy Alliance, Racial Disparities in Marijuana arrests in Virginia: 2003-2013, 2015
• Washington Post, The black/white marijuana arrest gap, in nine charts
• An analysis of Maryland arrest data determined that African Americans accounted for 58 percent of all marijuana possession arrested despite comprising only 30 percent of the state’s population.
  The American Civil Liberties Union, The Maryland War on Marijuana in Black and White, 2013
• A 2016 analysis of California arrest figures concluded that police arrested blacks for marijuana offenses at three and half times the rate of whites.
  Drug Policy Alliance, Nearly 500,000 Californians Arrested for Marijuana in Last Decade, 2016
  A prior statewide assessment reported that police in 25 of California’s major cities arrested blacks for marijuana possession violations at rates four to twelve times that of caucasians.
  California NAACP and the Drug Policy Alliance, Arresting Blacks for Marijuana in California: Possession Arrests in 25 Cities, 2006-2008, 2010
• A 2016 review of New York City marijuana arrest data by the Police Reform Organizing Project reported that approximately 85 percent of those arrested for lowest level marijuana possession violations were black or Latino.
  New York Times, Race and marijuana arrests
• Those percentages have been consistent for several years.
  Drug Policy Alliance, Race, Class & Marijuana Arrests in Mayor de Blasio’s Two New Yorks, 2014
• Prior to the enactment of legalization, Colorado police arrested blacks for marijuana possession at 3.1 times the rate of whites.
  Drug Policy Alliance, Marijuana Possession Arrests in Colorado: 1986-2010, 2012
• Prior to the enactment of legalization, Washington police arrested blacks for marijuana possession at 2.9 times the rate of whites.
  Drug Policy Alliance, Costs, Consequences, and Racial Disparities of Possession Arrests in Washington, 1986-2010, 2012
• Prior to the enactment of decriminalization, an analysis of marijuana possession arrest data in Chicago by reported that the ratio of black to white arrests for cannabis possession violations is 15 to 1.
  Chicago Reader, The Grass Gap
• Prior to the enactment of a Washington, DC voter-initiated law depenalizing minor marijuana possession crimes, African Americans were eight times as likely as whites to be arrested for marijuana-related crimes.
  Washington City Paper, Crime states show DC leads nation in per capita marijuana arrests

Doesn’t tell the full story. We all know the majority of these people weren’t arrested while sitting at home minding their own business

 

[n_huffhines]

Define small %? We should both agree it takes more than a small percentage of criminals in a population for 13% of people to commit the majority of all homicides in a country.

What I am saying is if you live in an area with increased rates of violence, you’re going to see increased police presence. I’m also saying the fact that the homicide rate is so high suggest those areas are under policed.

You’re playing a disingenuous game where you pretend it’s racism that leads to black people being arrested at higher rates for marijuana. The idea being that the police would just ignore it if it were a white guy. People do the same thing with traffic stops. Claiming the police ignore minor offenses from whites people. But you can’t ignore homicide.

If they’re committing murder at such a high rate, getting suspended from schools at higher rates, committing violent crimes at higher rates, why do you believe disparities in marijuana arrests are due to racism instead of behavior? Your stat is an attempt to ignore human behavior and pretend that arrest rates and usage should be aligned. Obviously that’s not true.

You write 4 paragraphs but all you're saying is you don't get the point.

The point is that the war on drugs disproportionately hurts blacks. You're trying to explain, in part, why it hurts blacks more. But the point is that the war on drugs is unjust and it hurts blacks more. That's it. That's the whole point. The war on drugs is a big reason the neighborhoods are so filled with violence. You're using the bad results of the problem to justify perpetuating the problem. It's pure insanity.

 

[n_huffhines]

Doesn’t tell the full story. We all know the majority of these people weren’t arrested while sitting at home minding their own business

Dear God

 

[AshG]

The War on Drugs has worked just as Nixon intended. He couldn't disarm the Black Panther movement without alienating his Pro2A base, so he went a carefully crafted direction that would target both blacks and anti-war hippies. We've never recovered.

 

[Vol8188]

You write 4 paragraphs but all you're saying is you don't get the point.

The point is that the war on drugs disproportionately hurts blacks. You're trying to explain, in part, why it hurts blacks more. But the point is that the war on drugs is unjust and it hurts blacks more. That's it. That's the whole point. The war on drugs is a big reason the neighborhoods are so filled with violence. You're using the bad results of the problem to justify perpetuating the problem. It's pure insanity.

So to be clear you believe disproportionate behavior is a result of the war on drugs?

How are you defining unjust here?

 

[Vol8188]

Dear God

It’s the truth. You don’t have to like it but we don’t have an epidemic of people being arrested for doing drugs at home. The discrepancies in crime are discrepancies in behavior

Edit: Can you tell me what other possibility would account for the disproportionate arrests and violent behaviors?

If I’m understanding you right, you seem to be claiming black people use less drugs, are arrested more for simply using drugs, and also someone the war on drugs causes them to kill each other more than white people (despite using less drugs)? What am I missing

 

[NCFisher]

So white people account for the highest rate of drug arrests? Incarcerations? White neighborhoods get the most collateral damage? What are you saying?

Whites are more likely to possess marijuana and blacks are 4x as likely to get arrested for possession. In Minnesota, where race relationships are oh-so-sweet, they are 8x as likely to get arrested.

Minority communities - blacks in particular - aren't asking for less law enforcement, but more. At the same time the Marxist - blackface and white - are demanding they receive less or no law enforcement.

Why is that, Huff?

 

[n_huffhines]

So to be clear you believe disproportionate behavior is a result of the war on drugs?

No. It's not about that. Again, you are missing the point. You are so consumed with making sure we get to blame blacks for their problems that you can't understand I'm not trying to blame anybody. I'm trying to blame bad laws for unjust outcomes.

 

[NCFisher]

• A 2021 analysis of marijuana-related arrests in 2020 in New York City’s five boroughs reported that people of color comprised 94 percent of those arrested.
  AMNY.com, People of color made up 94 percent of marijuana arrests by NYPD in 2020, data from Legal Aid says, 2021
• A 2021 analysis from the Milwaukee County, Wisconsin District Attorney’s Office reported that Black Wisconsinites were 4.3 times more likely than their white counterparts to be convicted for having marijuana. The worst disparities in Wisconsin are in Ozaukee County, where Black people are 34.9 times more likely to be arrested and Manitowoc County, where Black people are 29.9 times more likely to be arrested.”
  Wisconsin Public Radio, Report: Black Wisconsinites 4.3 Times More Likely To Be Convicted For Possession Of Marijuana, 2021
• A 2020 analysis by the American Civil Liberties Union, concluded, “Black people are 3.64 times more likely than white people to be arrested for marijuana possession, notwithstanding comparable usage rates.” Authors reported, “In every single state, Black people were more likely to be arrested for marijuana possession, and in some states, Black people were up to six, eight, or almost ten times more likely to be arrested. In 31 states, racial disparities were actually larger in 2018 than they were in 2010.”
  American Civil Liberties Union, A Tale of Two Countries: Racially Targeted Arrests in the Era of Marijuana Reform, 2020

• These findings were similar to the ACLU’s 2013 analysis, which had previously concluded, “[O]n average, a Black person is 3.73 times more likely to be arrested for marijuana possession than a white person, even though Blacks and whites use marijuana at similar rates. Such racial disparities in marijuana possession arrests exist in all regions of the country, in counties large and small, urban and rural, wealthy and poor, and with large and small Black populations. Indeed, in over 96% of counties with more than 30,000 people in which at least 2% of the residents are Black, Blacks are arrested at higher rates than whites for marijuana possession.”
  American Civil Liberties Union, The War on Marijuana in Black and White, 2013
• According to a 2020 analysis by The Washington Post, between 2015 and 2019, there were 3,631 marijuana arrests in the District of Columbia. Eighty-nine percent of those arrested were Black, even as they make up only 45 percent of the city’s population.
  Washington Post, DC legalized marijuana, but one thing didn’t change: Almost everyone arrested on pt charges in Black
• A 2020 analysis of low-level marijuana arrests in Canada in 2015, prior to nationwide legalization, similarly found that Blacks were over-represented in arrests. “We conducted an analysis of cannabis arrest data obtained from police services in five Canadian cities (Vancouver, Calgary, Regina, Ottawa, Halifax) to determine whether racial differences exist in rates of arrest for minor cannabis possession in Canada. With just one exception, we find that both Black and Indigenous people are over-represented amongst those arrested for cannabis possession across the five cities examined.”
  Race, cannabis, and the Canadian war on drugs: An examination of cannabis arrest data by race in five cities, International Journal of Drug Policy, 2020
• A 2020 analysis of marijuana-related citations and arrests in Albany, New York for the time period July 9, 2019 to July 9, 2020 reported, “97 percent of the time, those arrested or ticketed were Black. Only four white people were charged with marijuana offenses during the time period despite nationwide evidence that shows Black and white people use marijuana at roughly the same rate.”
  Albany Times Union, In Albany, marijuana arrests fall almost entirely on Black residents
• A 2018 analysis of marijuana possession arrest data in Alabama for the years 2012-2016 reported, “black people were approximately four times as likely as white people to be arrested for marijuana possession (both misdemeanors and felonies) in 2016 – and five times as likely to be arrested for felony possession. These racial disparities exist[ed] despite robust evidence that white and black people use marijuana at roughly the same rate.”
  Alabama’s War on Marijuana, 2018
• A 2018 analysis of marijuana possession arrest data in Louisiana for the year 2016 reported “large racial disparities in arrest rates across the state that would be difficult to explain by different rates of crime commission alone. For example, in 2016, black people were 2.9 times as likely as white people to be arrested for marijuana possession in Louisiana, despite evidence that black people and white people use marijuana at similar rates. The disparities are much greater in some areas: A black person was six times as likely as a white person to be arrested by the Baton Rouge Police Department (BRPD) for marijuana possession in 2016.”
  Racial Profiling in Louisiana: Unconstitutional and Counterproductive, 2018
• A 2017 analysis of low-level marijuana arrest data for the city of Buffalo for the years 2012 to 2016 reported that 86 percent of those arrested were people of color, but that African Americans and Hispanics constituted less than 50 percent of the city’s population. In Erie county, African Americans comprised 71 percent of low level marijuana arrests, but only 13.5 percent of the population.
  Partnership for the Public Good, Advancing Racial Equity and Public Health: Smarter Marijuana Laws in Western New York, 2017
• A 2017 analysis of Pennsylvania arrest data found that Black adults were 8.2 times more likely than their white counterparts to be arrested for possessing marijuana – up from 6.5 percent in 2010.
  American Civil Liberties Union of Pennsylvania, Cannabis Crackdown, 2017
• A 2017 analysis of New York City arrest data found that Blacks and Latinos comprised 86 percent of those arrested for marijuana possession violations during the years 2014 to 2016.
  Drug Policy Alliance, 60,000 Jim Crow Marijuana Arrests in Mayor de Blasio’s New York, 2017
• A 2017 analysis of New Jersey arrest data found that African Americans are three times more likely than whites to be arrested for violating marijuana possession laws.
  The American Civil Liberties Union, Unequal & Unfair: NJ’s War on Marijuana Users, 2017
• A 2017 analysis of Virginia arrest data determined that African Americans are three times as likely to be arrested for marijuana possession as compared to whites and that this disparity is increasing.
  Capital News Service, The numbers behind racial disparities in marijuana arrests across Virginia
• A separate analysis reported that blacks account for nearly half of all marijuana possession arrests in Virginia, but comprise only 20 percent of the state population.
  Drug Policy Alliance, Racial Disparities in Marijuana arrests in Virginia: 2003-2013, 2015
• Washington Post, The black/white marijuana arrest gap, in nine charts
• An analysis of Maryland arrest data determined that African Americans accounted for 58 percent of all marijuana possession arrested despite comprising only 30 percent of the state’s population.
  The American Civil Liberties Union, The Maryland War on Marijuana in Black and White, 2013
• A 2016 analysis of California arrest figures concluded that police arrested blacks for marijuana offenses at three and half times the rate of whites.
  Drug Policy Alliance, Nearly 500,000 Californians Arrested for Marijuana in Last Decade, 2016
  A prior statewide assessment reported that police in 25 of California’s major cities arrested blacks for marijuana possession violations at rates four to twelve times that of caucasians.
  California NAACP and the Drug Policy Alliance, Arresting Blacks for Marijuana in California: Possession Arrests in 25 Cities, 2006-2008, 2010
• A 2016 review of New York City marijuana arrest data by the Police Reform Organizing Project reported that approximately 85 percent of those arrested for lowest level marijuana possession violations were black or Latino.
  New York Times, Race and marijuana arrests
• Those percentages have been consistent for several years.
  Drug Policy Alliance, Race, Class & Marijuana Arrests in Mayor de Blasio’s Two New Yorks, 2014
• Prior to the enactment of legalization, Colorado police arrested blacks for marijuana possession at 3.1 times the rate of whites.
  Drug Policy Alliance, Marijuana Possession Arrests in Colorado: 1986-2010, 2012
• Prior to the enactment of legalization, Washington police arrested blacks for marijuana possession at 2.9 times the rate of whites.
  Drug Policy Alliance, Costs, Consequences, and Racial Disparities of Possession Arrests in Washington, 1986-2010, 2012
• Prior to the enactment of decriminalization, an analysis of marijuana possession arrest data in Chicago by reported that the ratio of black to white arrests for cannabis possession violations is 15 to 1.
  Chicago Reader, The Grass Gap
• Prior to the enactment of a Washington, DC voter-initiated law depenalizing minor marijuana possession crimes, African Americans were eight times as likely as whites to be arrested for marijuana-related crimes.
  Washington City Paper, Crime states show DC leads nation in per capita marijuana arrests

You could have simply said minority communities - black in particular - have exponentially higher rates of violent and nonviolent crime than white communities, thus are policed more and those residents want more policing, and that blacks and whites do not buy, use, or sell drugs in the same manner, some of which makes them even more visible in those communities.

 

[hog88]

The War on Drugs has worked just as Nixon intended. He couldn't disarm the Black Panther movement without alienating his Pro2A base, so he went a carefully crafted direction that would target both blacks and anti-war hippies. We've never recovered.

Is this what you really believe or bait? I'm not saying that couldn't have been his motivation but do you have any reference material?

 

[AshG]

No. It's not about that. Again, you are missing the point. You are so consumed with making sure we get to blame blacks for their problems that you can't understand I'm not trying to blame anybody. I'm trying to blame bad laws for unjust outcomes.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...act-same-crime-as-a-white-person-study-finds/

Black men who commit the same crimes as white men receive federal prison sentences that are, on average, nearly 20 percent longer, according to a new report on sentencing disparities from the United States Sentencing Commission (USSC).

These disparities were observed “after controlling for a wide variety of sentencing factors,” including age, education, citizenship, weapon possession and prior criminal history.

 

[Vol8188]

No. It's not about that. Again, you are missing the point. You are so consumed with making sure we get to blame blacks for their problems that you can't understand I'm not trying to blame anybody. I'm trying to blame bad laws for unjust outcomes.

Define unjust? There’s a few different things you could mean here.

I don’t personally support drug laws. But I also find the idea that blacks are arrested at higher rates without reason to be absurd

 

[AshG]

Is this what you really believe or bait? I'm not saying that couldn't have been his motivation but do you have any reference material?

Top Nixon adviser reveals the racist reason he started the 'war on drugs' decades ago

 

[Vol8188]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...act-same-crime-as-a-white-person-study-finds/

Black men who commit the same crimes as white men receive federal prison sentences that are, on average, nearly 20 percent longer, according to a new report on sentencing disparities from the United States Sentencing Commission (USSC).

These disparities were observed “after controlling for a wide variety of sentencing factors,” including age, education, citizenship, weapon possession and prior criminal history.

We can go back to that, but let’s start with the drug thing. When you bring up usage rates and arrest rates I assume you’re implying blacks are being arrested for no real reason? Is that a fair assessment?

This is a common left wing lie. They’ll give you a stat like “black people receive more traffic tickets” and you’re supposed to assume it’s because cops are just mean racists. But when you look at violent crimes, you find the same discrepancies. I don’t think anyone believes it’s because racist cops just ignore white homicides do we?

 

[n_huffhines]

Define unjust? There’s a few different things you could mean here.

No. Go away, guy who can't even admit that the suppression of speech is suppression of speech.

I don’t personally support drug laws. But I also find the idea that blacks are arrested at higher rates without reason to be absurd

Nobody said that you waste of time.