Cuonzo Martin is Derek Dooley

#53
#53
TooLegit2Quit said:
It can't be denied how important was Maymon was for Stokes last year. We're seeing those troubles of playing without him this year. He's still averaging 11 points and 8 rebounds as an 18 year old, which are actually slightly better numbers than last season. We're seeing the classic 5 star backlash I suppose. I'll agree, he is hurting us at times and needs to put forth more effort out there.
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His missed FT's are basically turnovers. He looks lost when he gets the ball on the block. Has not improved one bit over last year Looks like he got a little lazy and thought he was "all that" after last year. Maybe his poor play this year will light a fire and he will realize no matter how highly rated you are you still have to work for what you want to get.
 
#58
#58
1985Vols said:
Neither of these guys knows how to win a close game. Dooley was over his head and now I am thinking CCM is as well. Never seen a team melt down as much as our BB team does ( other than Dooley's FB teams) ridiculous!
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How so? He has won way more SEC games than Dooley ever has. Lol
 
#60
#60
Knoxvol81 said:
I don't think people are over reacting. IMO this team is regressing....half time adjustment are lacking, FT shoot is terrible this year, and this offense is on the same level as Kevin O'Neil. I think when we drop out of the top 10 (top 5 last few years) in national attendance, the administration will have to take a hard look.

We lucked out that Pearl was able to resurrect our program. The least they can ask for is the current HC to keep it going. Yes, football is the economic driver of the athletic budget, but when mens and women's bball are doing well they are self sustaining. I guess the point I'm making is pick your poison with Martin. The way I see it is you get rid of him if we are in the same boat next year and deal with the pay out OR your athletic dept will feel the pressure to support a sinking bball program as ticket sales and concessions drop when the fans stay at home due to the product on the floor.

Do I want Martin to succeed, Yes. Will I continue to purchase season tickets to both bball and football, Yes. I'm just tired of watching once proud programs struggle.

Sorry for the rant.
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Good rant. Post more.
 
#62
#62
TooLegit2Quit said:
Last season's team makes this thread invalid in every way. Last year we showed alot of potential and promise for the future of Tennessee basketball.
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Sounds a lot like Dooley's first season. Lots of would of, should of, could of.
 
#63
#63
#1ArencibiaFan said:
There is so much more Stokes needs to improve than having another post with him.
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Agree, his free throw shooting, his post defense at times, needs to improve on his 10-15 ft range shot. His skill set is not great, but you see the potential as long as he keeps working hard.But when Maymon and he played on the court together it was obvious they complimented each other. Not so much with Hall.
 
#64
#64
TooLegit2Quit said:
It can't be denied how important was Maymon was for Stokes last year. We're seeing those troubles of playing without him this year. He's still averaging 11 points and 8 rebounds as an 18 year old, which are actually slightly better numbers than last season. We're seeing the classic 5 star backlash I suppose. I'll agree, he is hurting us at times and needs to put forth more effort out there.
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He has no offensive skill set. 90% of his points are garbage points off rebounds, which I give him credit for. But he isn't the post player you can depend on to score. He misses tons of lay ups, gets the ball stripped or blocked a ton, and makes a bunch of bad spin moves that gets him in trouble that usually results in a TO or bad shot.
 
#66
#66
Manti had a hoax played on him. Hammy played a hoax on the vols when he said he hired two real good coaches, when he hired Dooley and Martin.
 
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#70
#70
#1ArencibiaFan said:
He has no offensive skill set. 90% of his points are garbage points off rebounds, which I give him credit for. But he isn't the post player you can depend on to score. He misses tons of lay ups, gets the ball stripped or blocked a ton, and makes a bunch of bad spin moves that gets him in trouble that usually results in a TO or bad shot.
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Dang JP me and you sound a lot alike. I am agreeing with most everything you post. Negativity and all.
 
#71
#71
TooLegit2Quit said:
I see you've given up already. You made a poor comparison, accept it and move on.
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Given up? Never. However, I am second guessing purchasing season tix for the first time in about 10 years. Probably wont get them next year. Much easier to get them for the big games and not purchase the entire year to watch the garbage I have had to watch this season.
 
#72
#72
Knoxvol81 said:
I don't think people are over reacting. IMO this team is regressing....half time adjustment are lacking, FT shoot is terrible this year, and this offense is on the same level as Kevin O'Neil. I think when we drop out of the top 10 (top 5 last few years) in national attendance, the administration will have to take a hard look.

We lucked out that Pearl was able to resurrect our program. The least they can ask for is the current HC to keep it going. Yes, football is the economic driver of the athletic budget, but when mens and women's bball are doing well they are self sustaining. I guess the point I'm making is pick your poison with Martin. The way I see it is you get rid of him if we are in the same boat next year and deal with the pay out OR your athletic dept will feel the pressure to support a sinking bball program as ticket sales and concessions drop when the fans stay at home due to the product on the floor.

Do I want Martin to succeed, Yes. Will I continue to purchase season tickets to both bball and football, Yes. I'm just tired of watching once proud programs struggle.

Sorry for the rant.
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Welcome aboard. Nice first post.
 
#73
#73
With regards to Hammy pulling a hoax on UT with Martin and Dooley, don't forget he also wrote and rammed through his contract that guaranteed his payout when he resigned. That may have been the lowest of all the thing he did. More or less stealing from the University, but shame on the University compliance dept for not catching that loophole.
 
#75
#75
1985Vols said:
Given up? Never. However, I am second guessing purchasing season tix for the first time in about 10 years. Probably wont get them next year. Much easier to get them for the big games and not purchase the entire year to watch the garbage I have had to watch this season.
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I'm so sick of hearing the no longer spending money crap from the same people.

Do whatever you want with it, money bags. Nobody gives a ****. I have to sit in front of people like you whining all the time and I'd rather not have you crying in my ear like every game.
It's hard enough to watch this stuff already.
 
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