Cuonzo Martin is Derek Dooley

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two of a kind. Neither can win or close out a close game.Both coaches in way over their head, when it comes to head coaching, Bye bye Zo.
 
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Couldnt have said it any better MikePeggy. Thank god some of you get it. This man sucks and is not big boy conference material. You go the cheap route, you get cheap results. Just another dumpster hire by that idiot Hamilton.
 
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UTVolWarrior98 said:
Couldnt have said it any better MikePeggy. Thank god some of you get it. This man sucks and is not big boy conference material. You go the cheap route, you get cheap results. Just another dumpster hire by that idiot Hamilton.
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You could be right. I can't say that I entirely disagree with you at this point.

However, let me propose a question. Pretend for a second that you're an Indiana fan. It's 2011. Tom Crean just had his third ****ty year in a row. Hasn't even sniffed a .500 overall record in his first 3 years. What would you have said at that time? Would you have wanted him fired? Would you have said that he isn't 'big boy conference material?'

I don't think Martin is even half the coach Crean is, BUT we have to be fair here don't we? What say you?
 
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utfan72408 said:
You could be right. I can't say that I entirely disagree with you at this point.

However, let me propose a question. Pretend for a second that you're an Indiana fan. It's 2011. Tom Crean just had his third ****ty year in a row. Hasn't even sniffed a .500 overall record in his first 3 years. What would you have said at that time? Would you have wanted him fired? Would you have said that he isn't 'big boy conference material?'

I don't think Martin is even half the coach Crean is, BUT we have to be fair here don't we? What say you?
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Good post. Could it be the talent level?
 
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Bluetic said:
Good post. Could it be the talent level?
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Thanks!

Talent level is definitely a part of the story. We have 2 guys that are as good as any in the SEC in McRae and Stokes, but we simply don't have any depth whatsoever. The fact that guys like McBee and Hall are getting minutes tells you all you need to know. Reese and Moore have upside, but are freshmen.

CCM deserves plenty of blame though. We're not improving at all; we're actually worse than we were earlier in the year. And not one problem has been fixed, not one hole filled. Free throws, turnovers, outside shooting. They were issues early on, and they are issues now. That's disturbing.
 
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Honestly, because I respect you, Id probably would have wanted his head to roll. Im saying that and Im a huge Tommy Izzo fan (went to MSU my first 2 years before UT) and Crean is one of his disciples lol
 
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UTVolWarrior98 said:
Honestly, because I respect you, Id probably would have wanted his head to roll. Im saying that and Im a huge Tommy Izzo fan (went to MSU my first 2 years before UT) and Crean is one of his disciples lol
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Hey at least you're honest. Can't fault you for that. Thanks for the straight answer.

And to further my point, Izzo missed the tourney in his first two years at Michigan State and hasn't missed since.

So you see my point? You may not like Martin but you just can't fire him yet.
 
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We are so far in debt we can hardly buy anything. We need to change our name to the Cleveland Brown holes....... BOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!! 1 Billion!!!!!!!!!!!! wow we could be the best athletically and academically. T Boone Pickens puts his money where his mouth is much more than Jim Haslam. OK State is now a much better school than it ever was before.
 
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I think were gonna have to make a change. I don't know how long it will take the ones at the top to do this. I am sure it want be until after next season. Until then we are what we are.
 
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Nice, uh, bump(s).

Threads like these are a cautionairy tale for sure. A moment of uncontrolled angst put to web prose...that lives on and on and on.

And on.
 
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1985Vols said:
Neither of these guys knows how to win a close game. Dooley was over his head and now I am thinking CCM is as well. Never seen a team melt down as much as our BB team does ( other than Dooley's FB teams) ridiculous!
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Oh hindsight...
 
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1985Vols said:
Neither of these guys knows how to win a close game. Dooley was over his head and now I am thinking CCM is as well. Never seen a team melt down as much as our BB team does ( other than Dooley's FB teams) ridiculous!
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Where'd ya go bruh? And the 9 morons who liked your post?
 
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Where was utvolpj when the Legion of the Miserables were calling for Martin's firing non-stop and pissing and moaning non stop? Good Lord. Maybe you need to give that same advice to the LOTM. They're getting their just desserts.
 
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OrangeBalls said:
Where was utvolpj when the Legion of the Miserables were calling for Martin's firing non-stop and pissing and moaning non stop? Good Lord. Maybe you need to give that same advice to the LOTM. They're getting their just desserts.
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non-stop calling for his firing huh?

as I said in my post, criticism of the coaching at points in this season was absolutely warranted.
 
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