D4H's 2017 College Football Season Preview

#656
#656
dobbs 4 heisman said:
with the 2017 college football season officially kicking off tonight, here are my predictions for the upcoming season:

sec east
1. Tennessee (12-1; 7-1) – sec champion (defeat auburn in championship game); loss to alabama; best win: Auburn (11-2)
2. Georgia (8-4; 5-3) – losses to notre dame, tennessee, south carolina, and auburn
3. Florida (6-6; 4-4) – losses to michigan, tennessee, lsu, georgia, south carolina, and florida state
4. Missouri (6-6; 3-5)
5. South carolina (6-6; 3-5)
6. Vanderbilt (5-7; 3-5)
7. Kentucky (5-7; 3-5)

sec west
1. Auburn (11-2; 7-1) – losses to lsu and tennessee (in the sec championship game)
2. Alabama (11-1; 7-1) – loss to auburn
3. Lsu (9-3; 5-3) – losses to ole miss, alabama, and tennessee
4. Texas a&m (7-5; 4-4)
5. Arkansas (7-5; 3-5)
6. Ole miss (6-6; 3-5)
7. Miss st. (6-6; 2-6)

big 10
1. Michigan (13-0; 9-0) – big 10 champion; best win: Ohio state (9-3)
2. Ohio state (9-3; 7-2) – losses to oklahoma, michigan state, and michigan

acc
clemson (10-3; 7-1) – acc champions; losses to auburn, florida state, and south carolina

big 12
oklahoma (13-0; 9-0) – big 12 champions; best win: Ohio state (9-3)

pac 12
usc (11-2; 8-1) – pac 12 champion (losses to notre dame and arizona st.)

independent
notre dame (11-1) – loss to michigan state; best win: Pac 12 champion usc (11-2)

2018 college football playoff
1. Michigan (13-0)
2. Oklahoma (13-0)
3. Tennessee (12-1)
4. Alabama (11-1)

heisman trophy winner: baker mayfield (oklahoma)

cfp semifinals: alabama defeats michigan (rose bowl); tennessee defeats oklahoma (sugar bowl)

cfp national title game: tennessee defeats alabama
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lol
 
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#658
#658
LittleCat said:
Everyone knows about the elusiveness. Everyone knows he has the arm. But what did you see that gave you confidence that he can be a NFL QB? He's a winner. Great. But if you can't consistently make those medium passes down the field you won't be a starter.
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Intangibles. He's as competitive and hard-working as it gets. He'll work his butt to get the most out of his talent which is really high. And you guys overlook the fact that he never actually was able to focus 100% on football while he was in college because of his academic workload.

With no more school taking up his time, he's gonna improve by leaps and bounds. His only problem in college was CONSISTENCY. His passing accuracy was perfectly fine. He just didn't always have the best footwork or coaching. That should improve at the next level.

Plus Dobbs is freakishly durable. So that's another reason why I'm so confident in him.
 
#659
#659
TDawg said:
This one eval proves you don't really know much about the QB position. Dobbs has had 4 years to work on his mechanics (footwork, arm angle, etc) and his decision making ability (pre-snap reads, being able to get way from bad pre-snap reads rather than staying with it) and hasn't really gotten much better in these categories. I'll ask again, what on your talent evaluator resume makes you qualified to make such claims?
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Dobbs led the SEC in QB rating, TD passes, and total TDs as a senior. Where are you getting this fiction that he never improved in college? He improved every single year he was in college.

You're just making stuff up now. Go and look at what he did to your sorry Georgia Bulldogs in 2015 and 2016.

I would expect this from a Alabama fan. You would think a Georgia fan would know better considering Dobbs destroyed you guys every time he played y'all.
 
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#660
VolsSportsFan said:
I still LOL at him saying Dobbs had a dominating performance against UF in 2015.
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That's the best game Dobbs played in his Tennessee career. Totally carried a pathetic offense on his shoulders against an elite defense.

The fact we scored 27 points that day with the offensive line we had versus that defense Florida had in 2015 was nothing short of a miracle.

No other QB in Tennessee history could have done what Dobbs did. And yes that includes Peyton Manning. He would have been sacked a million times that game. The only reason we had a chance is because of Josh Dobbs running ability.
 
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#661
Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Dobbs led the SEC in QB rating, TD passes, and total TDs as a senior. Where are you getting this fiction that he never improved in college? He improved every single year he was in college.

You're just making stuff up now. Go and look at what he did to your sorry Georgia Bulldogs in 2015 and 2016.

I would expect this from a Alabama fan. You would think a Georgia fan would know better considering Dobbs destroyed you guys every time he played y'all.
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Um those are stats bro; useless.
 
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#664
#664
volnbama_ said:
I can’t believe Alabama won with future NFL Star Jalen Hurts on the bench
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He probably compared him to Dobbs or something .. honestly, Hurts is a better runner than Dobbs but Dobbs is just slightly better in the passing game
 
#665
#665
TDawg said:
He probably compared him to Dobbs or something .. honestly, Hurts is a better runner than Dobbs but Dobbs is just slightly better in the passing game
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Ehhh I don’t know about that. Dobbs was a lot better than he got credit for. Hurts is running and playing behind a great line. Dobbs didn’t have that luxury, most of his career he was scrambling for his life.

Dobbs is an all around better QB than Hurts and I would dare to say he would have won a couple of rings with better Alabama talent around him and Alabama coaching. Something Hurts couldn’t do.
 
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#666
TDawg said:
He probably compared him to Dobbs or something .. honestly, Hurts is a better runner than Dobbs but Dobbs is just slightly better in the passing game
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I think (might be the homer status) but Dobbs was a far better runner than Hurts. He was far more slippery as your defenses can attest.

Passing game they were equal IMO. But let's face it, a Calvin Ridley or a Jauan Jennings will make any average QB look better.
 
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#667
Grand Vol said:
I think (might be the homer status) but Dobbs was a far better runner than Hurts. He was far more slippery as your defenses can attest.

Passing game they were equal IMO. But let's face it, a Calvin Ridley or a Jauan Jennings will make any average QB look better.
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Dobbs is a better passer than Hurts. Hurts has all day and can’t hit wide open guys. Dobbs never had long in the pocket and when he actually did he typically delivered a strike.

Don’t undersell Dobbs, he was victim to terrible o-line play and coaching.
 
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#668
FleeceItOut said:
Dobbs is a better passer than Hurts. Hurts has all day and can’t hit wide open guys. Dobbs never had long in the pocket and when he actually did he typically delivered a strike.

Don’t undersell Dobbs, he was victim to terrible o-line play and coaching.
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I wouldn't undersell him at all. I think he would have/should have benefited from a full time QB coach from his freshman year on and been one of the best.

I think Dobbs and Hurts share a couple of common problems, namely staring down receivers and consistency issues. The long ball never developed for the most part with Dobbs, but without coaching...
 
#669
#669
Grand Vol said:
I think (might be the homer status) but Dobbs was a far better runner than Hurts. He was far more slippery as your defenses can attest.

Passing game they were equal IMO. But let's face it, a Calvin Ridley or a Jauan Jennings will make any average QB look better.
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Wasn't like the UGA defense was able to just bottle up Hurts last night before the switch either. He was easily leading Bama in rushing and it would be hard to argue that he did it against a better defense than Dobbs did. And he is MUCH stronger in his trunk which makes him so difficult to tackle.
 
#670
#670
Grand Vol said:
I wouldn't undersell him at all. I think he would have/should have benefited from a full time QB coach from his freshman year on and been one of the best.

I think Dobbs and Hurts share a couple of common problems, namely staring down receivers and consistency issues. The long ball never developed for the most part with Dobbs, but without coaching...
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Dobbs mechanics never got better even though we heard in the offseason before his senior season he worked on accuracy the whole time. That's great but it would start with things like footwork, squarring shoulders, arm angle and release point. He is no where near as talented as D4H would make him out to be and before he chimes in, NO YOU DON'T HAVE ANY QB KNOWLEDGE TO DISPUTE THAT. But the kid IS talented nonetheless.
 
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#671
TDawg said:
Wasn't like the UGA defense was able to just bottle up Hurts last night before the switch either. He was easily leading Bama in rushing and it would be hard to argue that he did it against a better defense than Dobbs did. And he is MUCH stronger in his trunk which makes him so difficult to tackle.
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Hurts is very strong, but something that got overlooked on Dobbs was his strength and durability. He didn't fall backwards very often.
 
#672
#672
TDawg said:
Dobbs mechanics never got better even though we heard in the offseason before his senior season he worked on accuracy the whole time. That's great but it would start with things like footwork, squarring shoulders, arm angle and release point. He is no where near as talented as D4H would make him out to be and before he chimes in, NO YOU DON'T HAVE ANY QB KNOWLEDGE TO DISPUTE THAT. But the kid IS talented nonetheless.
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Hence "he would have benefited from a full time QB coach from day one" as I stated.

And in case nobody's mentioned it to you, anyone that listens to D4H or even attempts to respond to his ignorance is truly ignorant themselves. The only thing he's good for is generating clicks for Freak.
 
#673
#673
TDawg said:
Dobbs mechanics never got better even though we heard in the offseason before his senior season he worked on accuracy the whole time. That's great but it would start with things like footwork, squarring shoulders, arm angle and release point. He is no where near as talented as D4H would make him out to be and before he chimes in, NO YOU DON'T HAVE ANY QB KNOWLEDGE TO DISPUTE THAT. But the kid IS talented nonetheless.
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His mechanics not improving is just not true. I think you’re getting too caught up in trying to disprove D4H that you are distorting reality.

No, he isn’t what D4H claims, but he is better than you are claiming, and loads better than Hurts.
 
#674
#674
Grand Vol said:
Hence "he would have benefited from a full time QB coach from day one" as I stated.

And in case nobody's mentioned it to you, anyone that listens to D4H or even attempts to respond to his ignorance is truly ignorant themselves. The only thing he's good for is generating clicks for Freak.
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Oh come on, you know it's entertaining reading his nonsense (and that might be an insult to nonsense). He is the Volnation version of The Onion. You can probably pile 50 high the amount of delirious posts that make you say something like "what the hell is he talking about??!?!?!?!"
 
#675
#675
TDawg said:
Oh come on, you know it's entertaining reading his nonsense (and that might be an insult to nonsense). He is the Volnation version of The Onion. You can probably pile 50 high the amount of delirious posts that make you say something like "what the hell is he talking about??!?!?!?!"
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If you saved every post by him that qualified as delusional/outright stupid to your hard drive it would actually be physically and measurably heavier.
 
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