DACA must be reinstated

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Orangeslice13 said:
You’ve heard of jury nullification.
You’re about to witness Presidential nullification
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Nullification is the refusal to execute the enforcement of a law. If Trump's administration kicks out dreamers, they're not just ignoring/nullifying the law, they are breaking it.
 
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landscapingvol said:
Did you really just cite an NPR poll as any form of substantial evidence whatsoever? Polls are only as useful as the questions being asked, most Americans probably don't even know that it is illegal.
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How else would you find out how people feel about dreamers? Do you have a problem with the way the poll question was asked? What exactly? Do you have any support for the idea that this data is not an accurate representation of reality?
 
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n_huffhines said:
Nullification is the refusal to execute the enforcement of a law. If Trump's administration kicks out dreamers, they're not just ignoring/nullifying the law, they are breaking it.
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What law ? Is it the one that Barry wrote as an EO ? The same one he said he had no power to write , then did it anyway ?
 
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0nelilreb said:
What law ? Is it the one that Barry wrote as an EO ? The same one he said he had no power to write , then did it anyway ?
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It's the law until this judge's ruling is overturned. Like it or not, this is how our system operates.
 
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n_huffhines said:
It's the law until this judge's ruling is overturned. Like it or not, this is how our system operates.
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You are smarter than that Huff . Think about it , Do you want to give Trump the same ability Barry had ? He said he didn’t have the power to do it ( he was right ) but he somehow did it anyway . The president should never have the power to override congress and make immigration policy with an EO .
 
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Grand Vol said:
And before you go off in a tizzy, Huff, show me where Congress passed DACA.
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The judicial branch interprets the law. What this judge says is the law until he gets overturned. Regardless of what judicial precedent is, or what congress did, this ruling is the law. When the next level of the judicial system reviews this, they will take into account what precedent is, and what congress's part may have been, and overturn but until then, this is the law. I'm surprised this has to be explained to you.
 
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n_huffhines said:
The judicial branch interprets the law. What this judge says is the law until he gets overturned. Regardless of what judicial precedent is, or what congress did, this ruling is the law. When the next level of the judicial system reviews this, they will take into account what precedent is, and what congress's part may have been, and overturn but until then, this is the law. I'm surprised this has to be explained to you.
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Guess there’s a lot of laws that contradict what this liberal judge thinks.
 
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n_huffhines said:
The judicial branch interprets the law. What this judge says is the law until he gets overturned. Regardless of what judicial precedent is, or what congress did, this ruling is the law. When the next level of the judicial system reviews this, they will take into account what precedent is, and what congress's part may have been, and overturn but until then, this is the law. I'm surprised this has to be explained to you.
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Okay, when did Congress pass DACA? Which session was in? Where is it in the US Code? Why can't Trump undo it?

Don't even try to lecture me about this when you can't even grasp the basic principles behind what you're arguing about.
 
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C-south said:
Guess there’s a lot of laws that contradict what this liberal judge thinks.
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I think it will be overturned, but that's beside the point. The point is Trump wouldn't just be nullifying the law, he would be breaking it. This is the law, but likely not for very long.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I think it will be overturned, but that's beside the point. The point is Trump wouldn't just be nullifying the law, he would be breaking it. This is the law, but likely not for very long.
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Which point behind THIS ISN'T A ****ING LAW can't you grasp?
 
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Grand Vol said:
Okay, when did Congress pass DACA? Which session was in? Where is it in the US Code? Why can't Trump undo it?

Don't even try to lecture me about this when you can't even grasp the basic principles behind what you're arguing about.
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Are you implying that the only laws subject to the judicial branch's interpretation are limited to congressional legislation?

Think long and hard about this.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I think it will be overturned, but that's beside the point. The point is Trump wouldn't just be nullifying the law, he would be breaking it. This is the law, but likely not for very long.
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It’s odd how no judge touched Obama’s executive orders but everything Trump tries to fix is met with resistance. Does an executive order have authority or not and why does one liberal judge get to decide?
 
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C-south said:
It’s odd how no judge touched Obama’s executive orders but everything Trump is tries to fix is met with resistance. Does an executive order have authority or not and why does one liberal judge get to decide?
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Because this is our system. I'm not arguing that this is a good outcome. For the last time, I'm arguing that this is our system of government.

Are you saying this is not how our system works?
 
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n_huffhines said:
Are you implying that the only laws subject to the judicial branch's interpretation are limited to congressional legislation?

Think long and hard about this.
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It's very simple, numbskull, Executive Orders put in place during one Administration can be undone by another Administration. If you failed this portion of basic grade school civics, I can't help you. But there it is.

And since when are Executive Orders laws? Go ahead, try to school me.
 
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n_huffhines said:
The judicial branch interprets the law. What this judge says is the law until he gets overturned. Regardless of what judicial precedent is, or what congress did, this ruling is the law. When the next level of the judicial system reviews this, they will take into account what precedent is, and what congress's part may have been, and overturn but until then, this is the law. I'm surprised this has to be explained to you.
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This an example of a liberal activist posing as judge, Daca or Caca as I like to call it was an illegal xo signed by Obama. This **** will be overturned just like the travel ban 😂
 
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Grand Vol said:
It's very simple, numbskull, Executive Orders put in place during one Administration can be undone by another Administration. If you failed this portion of basic grade school civics, I can't help you. But there it is.

And since when are Executive Orders laws? Go ahead, try to school me.
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It's even more simple than that. Executive orders can be undone by the judicial branch. You're angry, condescending, and wrong. The VN politics trifecta.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Because this is our system. I'm not arguing that this is a good outcome. For the last time, I'm arguing that this is our system of government.

Are you saying this is not how our system works?
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How can ONE judge overturn an executive order? When was the last time an executive order has been overturned by a single judge?
 
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n_huffhines said:
It's even more simple than that. Executive orders can be undone by the judicial branch. You're angry, condescending, and wrong. The VN politics trifecta.
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Yes, the Courts can rule on the Constitutionality of Executive Orders. That's Einstein.

Now, show me where, anywhere in the US Code or US Constitution, it says a policy put into effect by one Administration cannot be undone by another.

What the judges are doing is a blatant violation of their own limits per the Constitution.
 
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