Daily Dose of Reality, Episode I

#52
#52
utfantilidie said:
LG is slowly turning into a fully bona fide flamer.:question:
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Nah. A flamer personally attacks or just posts nonsense. Other than perhaps an antagonistic approach to a few things (i.e. those that just say things like the post about gayterds), I'm pretty easy going. I mean, i care about the game, I'm rooting for UF, but Sunday will follow Saturday and I'll be at work Monday, etc., etc.

In other words, its just a game.

Lexvol said:
LG, I hope you are proud of yourself. You have managed to get your desired response.
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Exactly. I knew it was a matter of time. So many uneducated, slovenly, mouth-breathing eejits. And they aren't relegated to here. They are everywhere. Florida boards no exception. Probably a third of posters before a big game are just coming on to insult one another, and that's on every board. Now, you may say I invited it. And I suppose I did. Its mostly because I know nothing gets under their skin more than me ignoring the name calling and just continuing my mantra of UF 35, UT 17.

RockyTopEmpire said:
Well he is one of the classy ones, everyone here is welcome until they act like...you
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If I read this correctly, thanks and thanks for defending me, too. If I read it incorrectly, reverse that.
 
#53
#53
Lick it Rocky Top Empire, I'm just having fun on here, trying to get LawGator fired up haha. he seems like a cool guy, i've enjoyed his posts.
 
#54
#54
lawgator1 said:
Exactly. I knew it was a matter of time. So many uneducated, slovenly, mouth-breathing eejits. And they aren't relegated to here. They are everywhere. Florida boards no exception. Probably a third of posters before a big game are just coming on to insult one another, and that's on every board. Now, you may say I invited it. And I suppose I did. Its mostly because I know nothing gets under their skin more than me ignoring the name calling and just continuing my mantra of UF 35, UT 17.
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You are wiley LG. Do you have a garage full of ACME products? UT 38 UF 17.
 
#56
#56
hohenfelsvol said:
Exactly that kind of talk is what you hate about some of the Gator fans. So, calm down and represent better then that.
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Yup. The usual posters on here are gracious in both victory and defeat. The occassional visitors just lurk, looking for an opportunity to throw out their clever pun, alliteration, or what have you, in hopes that by sheer weight of insult they can affect the outcome of the game.

Thanks hohenfelsvol for recognizing that loyalty to your school and your team does not mean championing the goofy.
 
#57
#57
fla vs ut always a fight. usually running game wins out, we have got to establish fact we can run ball against fla. i agree fla has played nobody to date, but i dont think they will be intimidated by vols lacking some key players. i am not a fan of the urban legend and agree fla with spurrier is much more formidable. however, it all comes down to who control lines of scrimmage. as to ainge and heisman??? no offense but have you all watched ohio state and their personnel? heisman to come from columbus or hypesman from ndame. if ainge gets whiff, i will be thrilled as vols will have to go 10-2 or better. still think two best teams i have seen this year are osu and lsu, with auburn close 3rd...but of course i love the vols.
ps. and i think we will best lsu at neyland!! the "best" personnel/team does not always when, see uts 5-6 record last year.
 
#59
#59
Vol Mania 21 said:
Lick it Rocky Top Empire, I'm just having fun on here, trying to get LawGator fired up haha. he seems like a cool guy, i've enjoyed his posts.
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he is a cool guy, guess calling cool people gators is what's hot right now in Alabama. I am just telling you to tread softy, when you type stuff it's hard to tell if you are joking, because it's typed.

Seriously, "Lick it"? you can do better.
 
#60
#60
gcb/hoosiervol said:
fla vs ut always a fight. usually running game wins out, we have got to establish fact we can run ball against fla. i agree fla has played nobody to date, but i dont think they will be intimidated by vols lacking some key players. i am not a fan of the urban legend and agree fla with spurrier is much more formidable. however, it all comes down to who control lines of scrimmage. as to ainge and heisman??? no offense but have you all watched ohio state and their personnel? heisman to come from columbus or hypesman from ndame. if ainge gets whiff, i will be thrilled as vols will have to go 10-2 or better. still think two best teams i have seen this year are osu and lsu, with auburn close 3rd...but of course i love the vols.
ps. and i think we will best lsu at neyland!! the "best" personnel/team does not always when, see uts 5-6 record last year.
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I agree that running game usually determines winner, but this year sure seems like it will be a lot of short routes and yads after catch for UT plus the usual fling it everywhere Florida approach. Defenses are the wild card. I feel good about Florida's.

The losses you guys had last week are problematic. I feel badly for those players and should Florida be fortunate enought to win trust me when I say I'd much rather it be against a full strength UT team. But, we've got to play against who you put out there and we will.
 
#61
#61
RockyTopEmpire said:
he is a cool guy, guess calling cool people gators is what's hot right now in Alabama. I am just telling you to tread softy, when you type stuff it's hard to tell if you are joking, because it's typed.

Seriously, "Lick it"? you can do better.
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LMAO. Yeah, if he hadn't said "lick it" to start the post his effort at conciliation might have more credibility. Still, I forgive him. Everyone gets carried away when a game of this magnitude approaches.

Plus, I know there is just an avalanche of pent-up frustration for the UT fans right now. After a rough year it feels good to again be in a position to trash talk, right?

Don't blame you.

Oh, did I mention UF 35, UT 17? If not, let me just say UF 35, UT 17.
 
#63
#63
LG...you knew what I was talking about. I know UT lost to UF last year.

I was referring to UM crying after the LSU game.
 
#64
#64
lawgator1 said:
LMAO. Yeah, if he hadn't said "lick it" to start the post his effort at conciliation might have more credibility. Still, I forgive him. Everyone gets carried away when a game of this magnitude approaches.

Plus, I know there is just an avalanche of pent-up frustration for the UT fans right now. After a rough year it feels good to again be in a position to trash talk, right?

Don't blame you.

Oh, did I mention UF 35, UT 17? If not, let me just say UF 35, UT 17.
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That must be your prediction. Wrong as it may be, at least you are standing by it.
 
#65
#65
orangetd88 said:
LG...you knew what I was talking about. I know UT lost to UF last year.

I was referring to UM crying after the LSU game.
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I know. I was just teasing you over the logic of the first sentence you wrote on it. If you read it, it implies that there was crying after the UT game and I sort of was reminding you we Gator fans had nothing to cry about after that one.

What's your prediction on the game?
 
#66
#66
lawgator1 said:
I agree that running game usually determines winner, but this year sure seems like it will be a lot of short routes and yads after catch for UT plus the usual fling it everywhere Florida approach.
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Like someone already told you. Ainge can throw it deep and UT has more than sufficient talent at WR to give him good targets.

If I am not mistaken he leads the nation in yards per attempt and it isn't just YAC... but I certainly hope the Gators are underestimating this aspect of UT's game as badly as you are.
 
#67
#67
sjt18 said:
Like someone already told you. Ainge can throw it deep and UT has more than sufficient talent at WR to give him good targets.

If I am not mistaken he leads the nation in yards per attempt and it isn't just YAC... but I certainly hope the Gators are underestimating this aspect of UT's game as badly as you are.
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I am sure that the Gator coaching staff have accounted for the deep ball threat of the Univeristy of Tennessee.

Such as it is.
 
#68
#68
lawgator1 said:
I know. I was just teasing you over the logic of the first sentence you wrote on it. If you read it, it implies that there was crying after the UT game and I sort of was reminding you we Gator fans had nothing to cry about after that one.

What's your prediction on the game?
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I have a feeling it will be very much like that game here 2 years ago. Whoever has the ball last wins. I say 27-24 Vols. But that is more my heart speaking than my head.
 
#71
#71
orangetd88 said:
I have a feeling it will be very much like that game here 2 years ago. Whoever has the ball last wins. I say 27-24 Vols. But that is more my heart speaking than my head.
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There is a real air of uncertainty for this game so I don't blame you for thinking with your heart. My personal, actual thinking is that UT's biggest advantage is UF's biggest disadvantage, which is the inexperience at O-line for Florida.

Sure, we have some new guys on defense, too, but everyone has new faces somewhere on the squad in college so that's just part of it. What makes the O-line such an issue is that they are ALL new.

I was glad to see Meyer taking that seriously and working on ways to minimize the disruption that will be present at Neyland. Thing is, those who point out that, even if we can run a silent count, we still are going to have trouble checking off to new plays. Say what you want about Leak, he does have experience with tgat problem so whatever they've come up with to try to deal with it I am sure that Leak will run it as best he can.

If Florida can overcome or at least compensate for that one major disadvantage, then I really do like our chances Saturday. The defense is excellent and I think they will be a far cry from what you've seen so far.

Again, to me, its Florida's O-line versus the Tennessee line and the Tennessee blitz.

GAVol said:
I'm sure you would dazzle us.
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#72
#72
Well, Cal's d was supposed to be one of the best we faced all year, and they didn't do much.

We'll see...I don't expect to see receivers running ide open like they have been, though.

I expect to see something between what we saw against Cal and last week, defensively. Florida's style of play fits in perfectly with our speed, so we should be able to get a hand on someone before they are 5 yards downfield. LOL

I'm sticking with 27-24...for now.
 
#73
#73
sjt18 said:
I'm not altogether sure about that. Cal got dumped on after UT blew them away. They promptly came back and beat a middle of the pack Big10 team as impressively as UF beat USM and almost as bad as UF beat UCF.

I was one of the one's who thought UT had a good chance of beating Cal. They hadn't played anyone last year except USC and had lost to them. OTOH, They still had/have good players. Players who've been on the field with Oregon and USC (the only proven teams in the Pac10) and shown up.
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You're second paragraph supports my position that Cal isn't really that strong of an opponent. UF's offense "found itself" last year in the off week leading up to the Georgia game. Other than some serious defensive lapses during the South Carolina game (which were fairly uncharacteristic, having occurred only in the Bama game previously, and not in other big games against UT, UGA, LSU, & FSU) the defense performed strongly all year. A LOT of the UF defense returns this year. So when you mentioned that the Cal defense was was weak last year and returned a lot of players, and with history showing the strength of the UF defense last year, most of which is returning, you'd have to give UF a significant nod over the Cal defense of 2006.

I don't think a blow out in either direction is completely out of the question considering that neither team has a proven running game. Only 3 things can happen when you throw the ball... and two of them are bad.
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I never said that a blowout was "completely out of the question". I said that I didn't expect one. I could be wrong and UF could hang 21 on UT before UT scores. Or vice versa. But I don't expect it. That's all that I said.


Since you are being objective, who has UF played and what has it really proven?

I'm not saying they aren't a very good, talented team. They may catch UT and make them look bad. But who have they played so far that would justify LG's expectation that UT can't stop their offense?

In all honesty, would UF have been in trouble against USM if the Eagles had any offense at all? They stopped UF on several occasions.
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USM has a reputation for being one of those nagging teams that every couple of years upset a major team (IIRC, they've twice upset Bama in the last 6 or 7 years, along with wins over some other ranked teams). USM scored a 45-0 shutout the following team, albeit against MUCH less competiton.

USM was a bowl team last year. UCF was also a bowl team last year. UF held these two teams to a combined 7 points, those being set up by an interception deep in UF territory. I'd say the defense has been pretty stout.

You've acknowledged that you felt that Cal was overrated going into the game, and everyone around the Vol nation seems to believe that the AF game that UT escaped with a "W" was a fluke. So I don't see the argument that the Vols have played VASTLY superior teams to those that UF has played as being valid. A bit superior? Perhaps. Vastly superior? No. Yet UT has given up 48 points against those two teams, and UF has given up 7.

UF has scored 76 points thus far, and has used 2nd & 3rd teamers heavily in those two games or the scoring would likely be considerably higher. UT has been impressive offensively with its 66 points, but I believe that the UF defense is stronger than what UT has seen so far. But you could make a similar argument regarding what Florida will be facing against the UT defense.

As I said, I believe the two teams will play fairly evenly score-wise. I'm hoping that the game doesn't come down to being decided by refs or injuries, or even by a single error (such as a poorly timed turnover). But this is the kind of game that often does come down to being decided by the output of a single play or event. It's what makes you want to watch every play until the end of the game.

When you strip away all of the numbers that I work with to calculate my pool picks, it really boils down to my believing that the UF defense is slightly more capable of disrupting the UT offense than vice versa. Thus the 1 point margin that the calculations came up with.

Again, I mentioned a 1 point margin. Do you really believe that you can justify this game being touted as not being a toss-up? How?
 
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