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[Jxn Vol]

I'm no attorney, however I would think the courts would interpret your self righteous decision to disobey an officer as obstruction of justice at the very least. You, of course, are free to explore your options. :crazy:

If he was within his Constitutional Rights he should be allowed to act. That is our baseline. If we stray from that where are we?

 

[nagle]

I'm no attorney, however I would think the courts would interpret your self righteous decision to disobey an officer as obstruction of justice at the very least. You, of course, are free to explore your options. :crazy:

lulz,

 

[sanddune50]

Notice that the wife and daughter state he chose to ignore police orders and "it" escalated. That tells me who was escalating the incident in all probability, but then again I was not there.

Still a human life was lost because someone simply ignored a cop. Truth is as hard as their job can be, it was their choice to pursue that career. This isn't Stalingrad. And being a cop doesn't give a person a license to abuse his/her power and beat people up due to the overwhelming odds in their favor. Besides, it's cowardly. Hard to refer to people as heroes when they partake in cowardly actions.

 

[MedicT]

Still a human life was lost because someone simply ignored a cop. Truth is as hard as their job can be, it was their choice to pursue that career. This isn't Stalingrad. And being a cop doesn't give a person a license to abuse his/her power and beat people up due to the overwhelming odds in their favor. Besides, it's cowardly. Hard to refer to people as heroes when they partake in cowardly actions.

Let me end my participation in this thread by offering you a scenario to consider. You are casually walking into your favorite movie theater with your child and as you approach the door an individual is running full speed toward you and your child with unknown intent. A cop is standing by adjacent to the individuals path. Would you prefer he request the individual stop his advance, knowing full well if the individual chooses to ignore the order your child could well be in danger after all he should have the right to do as he pleases until a crime is committed, and after all running in front of a theater is not a crime OR take control of the situation by forcefully subduing the individual until his intent can be established and preventing any possible danger to bystanders. Also, lets suppose the gentleman begins to fight the cop, remember your child is still very close, do you want him to take control by all means necessary or would you want the cop to take a kinder gentler approach?

I think anti law enforcement attitudes are generally expressed when you are not involved and it is easy to affix blame. When it is your butt they protect, all is just wonderful.

 

[volgrad500]

@#$# this is the type of ridiculous story that lingers around like a head cold then turns into serious BS. How many times did we say "it was only a BBQ" nothing will come of this?

 

[sanddune50]

Let me end my participation in this thread by offering you a scenario to consider. You are casually walking into your favorite movie theater with your child and as you approach the door an individual is running full speed toward you and your child with unknown intent. A cop is standing by adjacent to the individuals path. Would you prefer he request the individual stop his advance, knowing full well if the individual chooses to ignore the order your child could well be in danger after all he should have the right to do as he pleases until a crime is committed, and after all running in front of a theater is not a crime OR take control of the situation by forcefully subduing the individual until his intent can be established and preventing any possible danger to bystanders. Also, lets suppose the gentleman begins to fight the cop, remember your child is still very close, do you want him to take control by all means necessary or would you want the cop to take a kinder gentler approach?

I think anti law enforcement attitudes are generally expressed when you are not involved and it is easy to affix blame. When it is your butt they protect, all is just wonderful.

Yeah, but not all scenarios are alike. And for every crazy scenario that a cop being there to react is welcomed(which is their job) there are countless other scenarios where a lot(not all) cops use fake righteous anger and false bravado to go overboard on situations that don't require it. I too have many friends in law enforcement and have had many conversations just like this one. The job is to serve and protect not bother and harass. The latter does nothing more than serve a personal agenda to feed a starving ego.

 

[Doyle Hargraves]

Bottom line is if everyone complies, stfu, and does what they are told, none of this shizz happens.
Get a damn clue, people.

 

[sanddune50]

Bottom line is if everyone complies, stfu, and does what they are told, none of this shizz happens.
Get a damn clue, people.

Agreed. Lay down. Allow poor behavior to reign supreme and never back talk kids who have a 1/3 of life experience than a lot of us because they are wearing a badge. That's not to say act like a dick to a cop to prove senseless points. But you have rights that should and need to be protected. Beating citizens to death for non compliance is murder plain and simple.

 

[LordVOLdemort]

Bottom line is if everyone complies, stfu, and does what they are told, none of this shizz happens.
Get a damn clue, people.

HAHAHA, this coming from you.

As confrontational as you constantly are, I highly doubt that you could turn the other cheek if you thought something wasn't being done correctly and justly.

You just really like being on the other side of the argument. Whatver the group thinks, you go the opposite direction for arguments sake.

You must be that Tennessee fan that lives in Gainesville or T-town.

 

[Doyle Hargraves]

HAHAHA, this coming from you.

As confrontational as you constantly are, I highly doubt that you could turn the other cheek if you thought something wasn't being done correctly and justly.

You just really like being on the other side of the argument. Whatver the group thinks, you go the opposite direction for arguments sake.

You must be that Tennessee fan that lives in Gainesville or T-town.

No, when I have an opinion I state it.
I don't simply go with the pack.
That being said, I can honestly tell you that I have been in plenty of situations when I was younger that gave me ample opportunity to be confrontational with law enforcement. I am here to tell you that I have a clean record.
Sometimes it is better to swallow your foolish pride and bravado for self preservation's sake.

 

[FootVolintheFall]

How the hell would they know? I mean really.

They do have a pretty good view of Quarry Trail from California

 

[sanddune50]

No, when I have an opinion I state it.
I don't simply go with the pack.
That being said, I can honestly tell you that I have been in plenty of situations when I was younger that gave me ample opportunity to be confrontational with law enforcement. I am here to tell you that I have a clean record.
Sometimes it is better to swallow your foolish pride and bravado for self preservation's sake.

I bet the federal government loves you. 'Whatever you guys say, I'll do it'. That being said, I agree with picking your battles, but to in the least justify poor behavior by the police is why it exists to begin with.

 

[ToineMac]

The Investigators: Dashcam video clears NJ man; Cops now indicted | abc13.com

 

[Obsessed]

The Investigators: Dashcam video clears NJ man; Cops now indicted | abc13.com

I'm surprised that tape wasn't "lost"

 

[LordVOLdemort]

The Investigators: Dashcam video clears NJ man; Cops now indicted | abc13.com

Jeter says the officers were hitting him and telling him not to resist arrest. "All I keep saying is I'm not doing anything," he adds. "They handcuffed me and one of them hits me in the back." The attorney for Jeter says while showing Eyewitness News the video, "Here a state trooper arrives on the scene and clearly wants no participation in it and that's where one of the officers punch Mr. Jeter in the head after he was clearly placed in handcuffs," said Steven Brown.

This sounds so familiar