Dave Clawson, one year later

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Bowling Green lost a heartbreaker to Idaho today, 43-42. The teams combined for 990 yards of offense.

One year after the 2008 debacle and the anemic offense of former offensive coordinator Dave Clawson, what do you think happened last year?

You can't really say two or three year plan because the man obviously put it together his first year in BG. I'm guessing most here will blame it on Fulmer. :dunno:
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
Bowling Green lost a heartbreaker to Idaho today, 43-42. The teams combined for 990 yards of offense.

One year after the 2008 debacle and the anemic offense of former offensive coordinator Dave Clawson, what do you think happened last year?

You can't really say two or three year plan because the man obviously put it together his first year in BG. I'm guessing most here will blame it on Fulmer. :dunno:
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YEs it was Fulmer's fault, he wouldn't let Clawson completely take over the offense. When you have old school (Fulmer) and new school (clawson) bumping heads the results speak for its self
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
Bowling Green lost a heartbreaker to Idaho today, 43-42. The teams combined for 990 yards of offense.

One year after the 2008 debacle and the anemic offense of former offensive coordinator Dave Clawson, what do you think happened last year?

You can't really say two or three year plan because the man obviously put it together his first year in BG. I'm guessing most here will blame it on Fulmer. :dunno:
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well,think about it.look what he has done in 1 year at BGSU.are we gonna say their players are a whole lot smarter then those at TEN.
i would think that Fulmer held him back and didn't let him run his offense.:birgits_giggle:
 
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I saw where BGSU's leading receiver finished the season with 155 catches. Unbelievable.
 
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I think that the general consensus here is that Fulmer did not give Clawson a very long leash and overrode alot of his wishes. Needless to say that did not work. However, If i were head coach, i would want to do my own thing too so I can't really blame Phil for that. The problem was that Phil's own thing didn't work. Clawson can now do his own thing at Bowling Green and it seems to be working OK.
 
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Rogers72 said:
I think that the general consensus here is that Fulmer did not give Clawson a very long leash and overrode alot of his wishes. Needless to say that did not work. However, If i were head coach, i would want to do my own thing too so I can't really blame Phil for that. The problem was that Phil's own thing didn't work. Clawson can now do his own thing at Bowling Green and it seems to be working OK.
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This is pretty much what I heard too. I also heard that a lot of the players really liked Cutcliff and didn't buy into the Clawfense.
 
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I thought about starting this thread last night after watching that game and me and a buddy were talking about what the problem was when he was at UT. I seriously think that Fulmer is to blame. He made that hire in an attempt to save his job. I know he was just extended after the 07 season but Fulmer knew the program was heading down hill.

There are so many reasons why Clawson wasn't successful. First, he didn't have the personnel to run that type of system, mainly at OL. We had big Pro Style O Linemen that were forced to play in a system made for smaller, more agile OL. We didn't have the QB to run the system, and we really didn't have the playmakers to run it either. I think Clawson came in and tried to implement his offense, but Fulmer never gave him full play calling responsibilites so Fulmer was calling the same ol' off tackle and draw plays that he ran in the old offense. You can't expect to be successful when your OL is set up for one style and the coach is calling plays for another.

And probably the most important factor, you can't run that pass happy system in the SEC. I know Florida runs the spread, but Tebow runs the ball more than he throws it. Clawson is a good coach but his system isn't cut out for the SEC. He couldn't even get his team past Idaho??? That should tell you enough.
 
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In watching BG, thier Offense looked nothing like the play calling that UT had last year. Not sure if it was Fulmer, Crompton, or Clawson. I also wonder though if the speed in the SEC on the DL contribute to too his system not working well at UT. Just don't know, but happy to see him doing well.
 
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VolFan_N_NC said:
I thought about starting this thread last night after watching that game and me and a buddy were talking about what the problem was when he was at UT. I seriously think that Fulmer is to blame. He made that hire in an attempt to save his job. I know he was just extended after the 07 season but Fulmer knew the program was heading down hill.

There are so many reasons why Clawson wasn't successful. First, he didn't have the personnel to run that type of system, mainly at OL. We had big Pro Style O Linemen that were forced to play in a system made for smaller, more agile OL. We didn't have the QB to run the system, and we really didn't have the playmakers to run it either. I think Clawson came in and tried to implement his offense, but Fulmer never gave him full play calling responsibilites so Fulmer was calling the same ol' off tackle and draw plays that he ran in the old offense. You can't expect to be successful when your OL is set up for one style and the coach is calling plays for another.

And probably the most important factor, you can't run that pass happy system in the SEC. I know Florida runs the spread, but Tebow runs the ball more than he throws it. Clawson is a good coach but his system isn't cut out for the SEC. He couldn't even get his team past Idaho??? That should tell you enough.
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Spurrier passed it just fine in the SEC.
 
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VolFan_N_NC said:
I thought about starting this thread last night after watching that game and me and a buddy were talking about what the problem was when he was at UT. I seriously think that Fulmer is to blame. He made that hire in an attempt to save his job. I know he was just extended after the 07 season but Fulmer knew the program was heading down hill.

There are so many reasons why Clawson wasn't successful. First, he didn't have the personnel to run that type of system, mainly at OL. We had big Pro Style O Linemen that were forced to play in a system made for smaller, more agile OL. We didn't have the QB to run the system, and we really didn't have the playmakers to run it either. I think Clawson came in and tried to implement his offense, but Fulmer never gave him full play calling responsibilites so Fulmer was calling the same ol' off tackle and draw plays that he ran in the old offense. You can't expect to be successful when your OL is set up for one style and the coach is calling plays for another.

And probably the most important factor, you can't run that pass happy system in the SEC. I know Florida runs the spread, but Tebow runs the ball more than he throws it. Clawson is a good coach but his system isn't cut out for the SEC. He couldn't even get his team past Idaho??? That should tell you enough.
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Good post, Clawson is where he should be. At a low end D-1 school, that is where he will fllourish. Definately not with the big boys of the SEC.
 
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Good for Dave Clawson. I'm glad he found a place to succeed. Maybe his offense just works better on weaker defenses.
I don't even mean that as a slight.
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
bowling green lost a heartbreaker to idaho today, 43-42. The teams combined for 990 yards of offense.

One year after the 2008 debacle and the anemic offense of former offensive coordinator dave clawson, what do you think happened last year?

you can't really say two or three year plan because the man obviously put it together his first year in bg. I'm guessing most here will blame it on fulmer. :dunno:
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duuuuuhhhhhh!!!!!!!
 
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It was all Fulmers fault. Clawson had similar problem that Kiffin had in Oakland. If you can't have complete say in any system, even good personel won't matter.

I don't think Clawson would have had us as an unstoppable offense, and scoring at will, but its hard not to think we would have been ok when you consider his offensive success everywhere else he has been.
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I agree with Panthro....The defenses he plays against at BG is nothing like what Tennessee plays against. Yeah his Offense might have worked at Western but it was failing bad at Knoxville....People can blame phil all they want I hate Phil but you cant bring in a new offense and not incorporate what was working with what you have new.

Clawsen should have come in and taken what was working and added some of his offense instead of changing it all up...He did not work with what Crompton was good at like Lane did...He tried to get the whole offense to buy into something that was unproven...
 
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Clawson was never the problem. Recruits were way down. and they had 2 really scarred players in the same backfield (Arian Foster and Jonathan Crompton). Problem was always Fulmer.
 
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