Dave Clawson, one year later

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nicksjuzunk said:
Bowling Green lost a heartbreaker to Idaho today, 43-42. The teams combined for 990 yards of offense.

One year after the 2008 debacle and the anemic offense of former offensive coordinator Dave Clawson, what do you think happened last year?

You can't really say two or three year plan because the man obviously put it together his first year in BG. I'm guessing most here will blame it on Fulmer. :dunno:
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He inherited a better team in comparison to their competition. BG also seemed to be more equipped to run his system than UT was last year.

Had Clawson had 2 or 3 years to implement his system and recruit the players he needed for it then I believe he would have done well.

He was a victim of Fulmer's mess... not the cause of it.
 
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PennVol said:
It was all Fulmers fault. Clawson had similar problem that Kiffin had in Oakland. If you can't have complete say in any system, even good personel won't matter.

I don't think Clawson would have had us as an unstoppable offense, and scoring at will, but its hard not to think we would have been ok when you consider his offensive success everywhere else he has been.
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Exactly :eek:k:
 
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Don't be surprised if you see Dave Clawson getting a pretty good job in a couple of years. I remember researching when he was hired and he was rated very highly as an "up and coming" coach. Success at BG will erase his one year at TN in the eyes of many.

I personally don't buy into the "it won't work in the SEC". It all comes down to matchups on the field and execution. His philosophy is "playmakers in space." I think that works anywhere you go provided you have the personnel.
 
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Jaytrain5 said:
Grossman threw about 400 passes and racked up nearly 4000 yards in 2001. It wasn't that long ago.

If Steve were still in Gainesville, they'd still be throwing it all over the field.
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Valid point. But Spurrier had also been there for 10 years in 2001. He had the right players at Florida to run that system. Look at what he is doing at USCjr after 5 seaons.

I'm not saying that it won't work in the SEC, but it will take time. That was one thing that Clawson/Fulmer didn't have on their side.
 
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Clawson's system has worked at the NFL level. It would have worked in the SEC. In fact, it isn't radically different from what CLK is doing as far as formations and plays are concerned. CLK has fewer reads though.

However Clawson's system was complex enough that implementing it was going to be a process and not an event. Even with a simpler and simplified approach, CLK still hasn't implemented his whole system and didn't get enough of it implemented to be really effective until about mid-season.
 
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The problem was too many talking heads and the coaches not being on the same page...one coach would tell a player one thing and the another one something else. it was basically Fulmer/Adkins vs. Clawson/Scott...obviously the players were going to listen to Fulmer and adkins who have been there and recruited them...Clawson is succesful now and when he was at Richmond because he interviewed and hired his own staff that fit/believed in his philosophy. This is why Cutcliffe demanded he bring in his own guys when he came back.
 
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VolFan_N_NC said:
Valid point. But Spurrier had also been there for 10 years in 2001. He had the right players at Florida to run that system. Look at what he is doing at USCjr after 5 seaons.

I'm not saying that it won't work in the SEC, but it will take time. That was one thing that Clawson/Fulmer didn't have on their side.
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He has had no QB at SCe. He gets one, he'll throw just fine.
 
#35
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Spurrier will never get an elite Qb because every one of his qbs is a bust in the NFL...every single one of them
 
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sjt18 said:
Clawson's system has worked at the NFL level. It would have worked in the SEC. In fact, it isn't radically different from what CLK is doing as far as formations and plays are concerned. CLK has fewer reads though.

However Clawson's system was complex enough that implementing it was going to be a process and not an event. Even with a simpler and simplified approach, CLK still hasn't implemented his whole system and didn't get enough of it implemented to be really effective until about mid-season.
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The major difference in Clawson's system compared to Kiffin's is the blocking scheme. If you notice, our OL came into that season giving up almost the least amout of sacks in 07 to giving up almost the most in 08.
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
Spurrier will never get an elite Qb because every one of his qbs is a bust in the NFL...every single one of them
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He clearly doesn't need an elite QB. He needs a smart, accurate QB. His most talented, Grossman, happened to be dumbest. If Grossman had even the IQ of a turnip, UF kills everyone with him at the helm. As it was, they were solid.
 
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VolFan_N_NC said:
The major difference in Clawson's system compared to Kiffin's is the blocking scheme. If you notice, our OL came into that season giving up almost the least amout of sacks in 07 to giving up almost the most in 08.
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That was QB and routes as much as scheme.
 
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sjt18 said:
Clawson's system has worked at the NFL level. It would have worked in the SEC. In fact, it isn't radically different from what CLK is doing as far as formations and plays are concerned. CLK has fewer reads though.

However Clawson's system was complex enough that implementing it was going to be a process and not an event. Even with a simpler and simplified approach, CLK still hasn't implemented his whole system and didn't get enough of it implemented to be really effective until about mid-season.
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When was Clawson an OC or HC in the NFL, for his system to "work" there?

BG's offense this year didnt look anything like what UT was trying to do last year. I have no idea who's fault that is....however, BG has nowhere near the talent and athletes that even our 2nd and 3rd team has. For his system to work so well there in its first year, most people will obviously believe (and rightfully so, IMO) that is was something out of Clawson's control that cause him to fail so miserably at UT last year.
 
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I think Spurrier has the last QB he will ever have at SC. Garcia is an adequate QB for his system. He is still young and if Spurrier can't get it done after Garcia is gone then I doubt he will remain the head coach.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
That was QB and routes as much as scheme.
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I agree with you in that they were calling routes that took too way long to get open and the QB didn't have the time to make the throws. I still think that Crompton has to receive some of the blame bc he just never picked up on the system like he did this year with Kiffin's system. But that could also go back to coaching.
 
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I think it was obvious that Clawson could not do what he wanted to do at UT......Fulmer wouldn't let him. Glad to see him successful at BG. Now Go Vols and beat the Hokies!
 
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there was an article written in the preseason where Clawson said he was only responsible about 40 % of the play calling. I knew he was a great coach before coming to TN and when Bowling Green IMMEDIATElY jumped on him as soon as he was not retained it was pretty evident someone saw something in him.

After watching the adjustments he made in the 2nd half the other night, this guy might be the next Spurrier in his hay day. He is bright and may be one of the best at picking out weaknesses of defenses. Of course it is hard to exploit defenses when you run off tackle left and right, then run a bubble screen when off tackle left and right doesn't work (AKA FULMER BALL)

I hope he does well. wish him luck because he got screwed coming on with the sinking Fulmer ship.
 
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The only reason our players did not buy into the Clawson offense was Fulmer. We had enough athletes to run that O but that O scared Fulmer who was to conservative. Going back to the days when Fulmer was the OC under Majors, Fulmer believed in pounding the rock twice and then throw on 3rd down to get a first down.

When Fulmer had Cutcliffe he turned the O over to him from pressure from Dickey and the fan base to become more pro style and it worked. When Cut was not here Fulmer reverted back to pounding the rock.

When Clawson was hired it was more for show because Fulmer never had any intentions of turning over the O to Clawson. He simply wanted to add a few wrinkles but that is like trying to run 2 different offenses at the same time which leads to confusion.

Blame goes to Fulmer 100%, not the players. The players at BG were not recruited to run the Clawfense but bought in and flourished.
 
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