'24 DC OT Jordan Seaton (Future Portal Entry)

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Devo182 said:
Mr. Gaslighting Extraordinaire tries so hard to be cool to the kids and feed their angry fratboi feels via the Clay Gullibles crowd

But this time he just completely whiffed with an astounding amount of mental gymnastics. He could have simply said Deion got played and instead tied himself up in a knot of (not-so) strategic signaling nonsense

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Good grief you tied yourself into knots over analyzing a pretty transparent jab
 
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I’m going to be happy tomorrow or whenever if I wakeup and he’s not at Colorado and even more happy if he’s a vol. as long as it’s not Colorado OSU or an SEC team not named the vawls.
 
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bigl3327 said:
People need to cool it on the racist narrative. Many recruits (and sometimes their families) are very impressionable. A lot of coaches have an angle when recruiting. Dabo, Kiffin, and Freeze are all examples of coaches that use tactics that many don't particularly like in recruiting. Deion is no different in that regard. What does he have to sell to top recruits and their families that they can't get better at other schools? He's a black coach that tells these families that he has their best interest at heart as people, and that you can't understand the experience of being a top black athlete unless you've been one yourself. It's an angle. Some people buy it. Some don't, but he has a 5* (Travis Hunter) that trusted him. That helps sell that pitch as well. Seaton drank the kool-aid, then said something in a manner that people have honestly, taken way out of context. Now, many want to call the kid a racist. Don't say "what if a white kid said that?"...... 90% of division 1 head coaches look like them. Nobody is saying they wouldn't want Sammy Brown because his family drank the Dabo kool-aid. In reality, this is no different. Using race, religion, political affiliation etc. is all dirty pool, but it happens all the time because the world is full of weak minded, impressionable individuals. Don't be one of those yourself.
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Just to prove your point even more, big...you saying, "drink the kool-aid", according to Deion and his staff...that's racist. It gives even more insight into what Deion and crew are feeding these kids, who are VERY impressionable.

But, yes, I agree with all you said. Nine out of ten coaches play some kind of angle, and they will play it until it's no longer useful for them.
 
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bigl3327 said:
People need to cool it on the racist narrative. Many recruits (and sometimes their families) are very impressionable. A lot of coaches have an angle when recruiting. Dabo, Kiffin, and Freeze are all examples of coaches that use tactics that many don't particularly like in recruiting. Deion is no different in that regard. What does he have to sell to top recruits and their families that they can't get better at other schools? He's a black coach that tells these families that he has their best interest at heart as people, and that you can't understand the experience of being a top black athlete unless you've been one yourself. It's an angle. Some people buy it. Some don't, but he has a 5* (Travis Hunter) that trusted him. That helps sell that pitch as well. Seaton drank the kool-aid, then said something in a manner that people have honestly, taken way out of context. Now, many want to call the kid a racist. Don't say "what if a white kid said that?"...... 90% of division 1 head coaches look like them. Nobody is saying they wouldn't want Sammy Brown because his family drank the Dabo kool-aid. In reality, this is no different. Using race, religion, political affiliation etc. is all dirty pool, but it happens all the time because the world is full of weak minded, impressionable individuals. Don't be one of those yourself.
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This is a racist statement:

“We’re doing things that have never been done, and that makes people uncomfortable,” Sanders said. “When you see a confident Black man sitting up here talking his talk, walking his walk, coaching 75% African Americans in the locker room, that’s kind of threatening. Oh, they don’t like that.”

How do you know it’s racist? Ask yourself this. Could a coach like say Ferentz at Iowa say “we’re doing things that have never been done, and that makes people uncomfortable. When you see a confident white man sitting up here talking his talk, walking his walk, coaching 75% Caucasians in the locker room, that’s kind of threatening.”

Would he be able to say that? You and I both know the answer. It’s a resounding NO. Why did he even mention skin color? What does it matter if your team is white or black?
 
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Leeleesteeth said:
Kid is either immature or easily lead. IF he comes here the veteran OL guys need to mentor him and show him how to be part of a team. If that happens and he grows up, he'll be an asset. If he stays at Colorado I have my doubts that will happen. Great talent with a lot of growing up to do.
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We all watch recruiting and know it’s never good for a kid when a handler gets involved. Not because they steer them to one college, but it always means the handler is only in it for themselves and what they get out of the recruitment. Time and time again.
 
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SugarCC said:
Just to prove your point even more, big...you saying, "drink the kool-aid", according to Deion and his staff...that's racist. It gives even more insight into what Deion and crew are feeding these kids, who are VERY impressionable.

But, yes, I agree with all you said. Nine out of ten coaches play some kind of angle, and they will play it until it's no longer useful for them.
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I saw that dumb-a$$ coach and his "kool-aid" commentary. Some of the dumbest sh!t I've ever heard. I'm black, and I've heard black people use the term my entire life. It's a reference to cult leader, Jim Jones. Always has been.
 
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I was trying to think of the kid’s name that Seton‘s recruitment is reminding me of and it just came to me… Jay Hardy. Y’all remember him? He’s the kid that signed with Auburn but told them not to publicize it and other schools, including Pruitt continued to recruit him hard for the next two months or so. What an attention starved little b***h he turned out to be. He was actually from Chattanooga which made it suck even more
 
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mrMet said:
😂😂 dude 3 of those programs have been good for a decade+. Arizona was good in a fairly tough pac12 this year and has good people returning. Go back to the FF
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Dude don’t get so upset over the truth. Out of the 16 teams that make up the conference 3 were in the Top 25. The best record of any team of the 16 is 9-3 and that was a team that was in the PAC 12. Big 12 is the weakest power conference. Didn’t say they didn’t have some decent teams, I said the conference is bad, which it is.
 
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bigl3327 said:
People need to cool it on the racist narrative. Many recruits (and sometimes their families) are very impressionable. A lot of coaches have an angle when recruiting. Dabo, Kiffin, and Freeze are all examples of coaches that use tactics that many don't particularly like in recruiting. Deion is no different in that regard. What does he have to sell to top recruits and their families that they can't get better at other schools? He's a black coach that tells these families that he has their best interest at heart as people, and that you can't understand the experience of being a top black athlete unless you've been one yourself. It's an angle. Some people buy it. Some don't, but he has a 5* (Travis Hunter) that trusted him. That helps sell that pitch as well. Seaton drank the kool-aid, then said something in a manner that people have honestly, taken way out of context. Now, many want to call the kid a racist. Don't say "what if a white kid said that?"...... 90% of division 1 head coaches look like them. Nobody is saying they wouldn't want Sammy Brown because his family drank the Dabo kool-aid. In reality, this is no different. Using race, religion, political affiliation etc. is all dirty pool, but it happens all the time because the world is full of weak minded, impressionable individuals. Don't be one of those yourself.
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This. So many recruit parents would be disgusted by a lot of the sh*t spewed in this thread. A lot of people are using it as an excuse to say the dumb sh*t they have harbored in their hearts and brains daily.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
This is a racist statement:

“We’re doing things that have never been done, and that makes people uncomfortable,” Sanders said. “When you see a confident Black man sitting up here talking his talk, walking his walk, coaching 75% African Americans in the locker room, that’s kind of threatening. Oh, they don’t like that.”

How do you know it’s racist? Ask yourself this. Could a coach like say Ferentz at Iowa say “we’re doing things that have never been done, and that makes people uncomfortable. When you see a confident white man sitting up here talking his talk, walking his walk, coaching 75% Caucasians in the locker room, that’s kind of threatening.”

Would he be able to say that? You and I both know the answer. It’s a resounding NO. Why did he even mention skin color? What does it matter if your team is white or black?
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My comments about stopping the racist narrative had everything to do with Seaton and nothing to do with Deion. Too many people find reasons to attack 17-18 year old kids when they don't commit to their respective programs. One of the dumbest reasons I've heard recently is that they aren't kids anymore because they get NIL deals so now they're fair game. A 12 year old that starts a multi-million dollar online business is still a kid. It doesn't change because he's making lots of money.
 
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pimo1 said:
ummmm lol you obviously don't follow recruiting....

do you know how many kids UT has offered? 382 (College Football Recruiting Classes - ESPN)..... thats how recruiting works you offer way more people by like a factor of 20 than you can even sign

They signed 16 transfers and 5 highschoolers so far. also some of their (and our) listed offers were guys in the portal
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I do follow recruiting ..... and I have never seen any prep class that small before. The class of transfers they did bring in are mostly veteran players, with one or two years of eligibility remaining. Even Colorado's own site has said this class was much smaller than expected. If you followed recruiting, you would know that this is not the way successful programs manage their rosters. "Coach Prime" doesn't know what he is doing.

How did this model of only signing veteran quick fix transfers work in 2023? They went 4-8.
 
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VFL92 said:
Don’t expect anything earth-shattering. Kid has a lot of people’s attention right now. The minute he actually signs with a school, his moment is over. He’s going to ride this out.
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Will be Friday .... when he probably signs with Colorado. However, a year from now, he will be in the portal, and doing this whole thing all over again.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I do follow recruiting ..... and I have never seen any prep class that small before. The class of transfers they did bring in are mostly veteran players, with one or two years of eligibility remaining. Even Colorado's own site has said this class was much smaller than expected. If you followed recruiting, you would know that this is not the way successful programs manage their rosters. "Coach Prime" doesn't know what he is doing.
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he literally (Deion Sanders himself)said months ago they planned on only recruiting about 6-10 high schoolers. its their plan. No you've never seen it because NIL and the transfer portal are NEW. No one has had an opportunity to do it before. It may work it may not. It all comes down to this upcoming season to be honest. IF he can get momentum he can start focusing more on the high school ranks but there is no way he could have done it with mostly high schoolers are Colorado. He has to build the brand. Even during the 90 and early 2000's when Colorado was good they were coaching up 3 stars not signing blue-chippers. The Portal plus NIL plus Deion gives them a shot a lot of schools won't have because his name alone brings in NIL money. Whether you like it or not it's true. Who knows how it all ends but so far he is making great progress. I am personally not a fan of Deoin Sanders ever since he left the Niners and signed with the Cowboys. But I can respect what he is doing even though I don't like the show.
 
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volbound1700 said:
They have been pretty solid though since joining Big12. Heck, they have dominated Texas overall.
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Yes, but that was under Gary Patterson. I would be cautious in praising the job that Sonny Dykes did last year, as a first year coach with a roster of upper-classmen that Patterson had recruited, signed and developed. Dykes did not blow it out of the water at Cal. TCU has a Chip Kelly/Mark Helfrich (Oregon) feel to it.
 
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pimo1 said:
he literally (Deion Sanders himself)said months ago they planned on only recruiting about 6-10 high schoolers. its their plan. No you've never seen it because NIL and the transfer portal are NEW. No one has had an opportunity to do it before. It may work it may not. It all comes down to this upcoming season to be honest. IF he can get momentum he can start focusing more on the high school ranks but there is no way he could have done it with mostly high schoolers are Colorado. He has to build the brand. Even during the 90 and early 2000's when Colorado was good they were coaching up 3 stars not signing blue-chippers. The Portal plus NIL plus Deion gives them a shot a lot of schools won't have because his name alone brings in NIL money. Whether you like it or not it's true. Who knows how it all ends but so far he is making great progress. I am personally not a fan of Deoin Sanders ever since he left the Niners and signed with the Cowboys. But I can respect what he is doing even though I don't like the show.
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Their own site quoted him as saying they would sign 10-12 prep players. They actually have 9 roster spots unfilled. Of course, they can still do that through the portal, but they better start signing younger transfers or they will have to turn over their roster every year. That is no way to sustain success in major college football. It's just not.
 
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