Dear ESPN

#77
#77
VolfanMike said:
not really....just don't like it.
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Then why are you babbling about how it doesn't take talent... Pretty much every boy in the world in Europe, South America, Mexico, and Central America play soccer when they are young. You don't just be come a professional without being d**n good in other countries.
 
#78
#78
tvolsfan said:
Then why are you babbling about how it doesn't take talent... Pretty much every boy in the world in Europe, South America, Mexico, and Central America play soccer when they are young. You don't just be come a professional without being d**n good in other countries.
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Glad to see your keeping up with all the boys throughout the world.

Also, I guess that soccer is the only sport that you become a professional in by being good. According to your post anyway.
 
#79
#79
VolfanMike said:
Glad to see your keeping up with all the boys throughout the world. NM just looked at your age.

Also, I guess that soccer is the only sport that you become a professional in by being good. According to your post anyway.
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No sport is as widely played as soccer. When everyone plays it, it is obviously a lot more difficult to become a pro.
 
#80
#80
Vercingetorix said:
It's no more "only a game" than American football, which, if evaluated strictly on its merits as a viewing experience, is vastly inferior to the rugby from which it was derived. As an English friend said to me once, "You Yanks don't even really watch sports; you sit down and watch commercials for three hours."
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I going to choose to ignore any sport comments from the English, who love soccer, polo and cricket.
 
#83
#83
I've tried to like soccer and I can't do it. I hate watching it. I've never tried to play it nor will I ever have the desire to try to play it.

I do respect those that do play soccer though. There's a helluva lot more to it than most people think.
 
#84
#84
it's one thing to hate soccer. But to act like soccer players are any less talented than american football players is idiocy.

Every game takes it's own special talents. I'm a good shooter in basketball, I was considered an above average fielder in baseball (hitting, not so much), had an excellent backhand in tennis and could play the net against anyone I ever played and in golf I can definitely carry my own.

All that being said, I can't do crap with my two feet and a soccer ball. Much less control where a soccer ball goes consistently if I bounce it off my chest or especially off my head. Soccer players are extremely talented and extremely athletic. Don't put them down just because you can't stand the sport.
 
#86
#86
volfanbill said:
it's one thing to hate soccer. But to act like soccer players are any less talented than american football players is idiocy.

Every game takes it's own special talents. I'm a good shooter in basketball, I was considered an above average fielder in baseball (hitting, not so much), had an excellent backhand in tennis and could play the net against anyone I ever played and in golf I can definitely carry my own.

All that being said, I can't do crap with a my two feet and a soccer ball. Much less control where a soccer ball goes consistently if I bounce it off my chest or especially off my head. Soccer plays are extremely talented and extremely athletic. Don't put them down just because you can't stand the sport.
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No kidding. Not many people can run for 90 minutes without substitutions like professionals have to. People think shootouts are a bad way to end games, but at a certain point, players can't keep playing any more.
 
#87
#87
doozer said:
amen bill. amen.

i was about to say all that.
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tvolsfan said:
No kidding. Not many people can run for 90 minutes without substitutions like professionals have to. People think shootouts are a bad way to end games, but at a certain point, players can't keep playing any more.
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Just for everyone's info, I can't stand to watch soccer and I'm not really a fan of playing it either.

I forced myself to watch the last World Cup and when Zidane picked up the red card so foolishly, I couldn't take it any more. I can't take anything away from their talents though.
 
#88
#88
volfanbill said:
it's one thing to hate soccer. But to act like soccer players are any less talented than american football players is idiocy.

Every game takes it's own special talents. I'm a good shooter in basketball, I was considered an above average fielder in baseball (hitting, not so much), had an excellent backhand in tennis and could play the net against anyone I ever played and in golf I can definitely carry my own.

All that being said, I can't do crap with my two feet and a soccer ball. Much less control where a soccer ball goes consistently if I bounce it off my chest or especially off my head. Soccer players are extremely talented and extremely athletic. Don't put them down just because you can't stand the sport.
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Great Post :good!:
 
#89
#89
Well.....my opinion is still....Soccer Sucks.....just my opinion, i will concede and give you they are talented but i would rather watch ants hump than that.
 
#90
#90
VolfanMike said:
Well.....my opinion is still....Soccer Sucks.....just my opinion, i will concede and give you they are talented but i would rather watch ants hump than that.
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and that's fine. But as a former tennis player, I wouldn't call tennis any harder to play, just different needed abilities. My parents even put me in a gymnastics for a little over a year primarily to get really good balance, but I still suck at trying to do anything with a soccer ball.
 
#91
#91
volfanbill said:
and that's fine. But as a former tennis player, I wouldn't call tennis any harder to play, just different needed abilities. My parents even put me in a gymnastics for a little over a year primarily to get really good balance, but I still suck at trying to do anything with a soccer ball.
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Just give it to a kid in the park and forget about it... :popcorn:
 
#92
#92
I hear the points about soccer players and the skill required but I'm just not buying that it's the same as our basketball and football players.

The combination of freakish size AND athleticism sets apart the professionals in American sport. I would submit that many of our basketball players and speed football players could be great soccer players with practice. Soccer players trying to play in the NBA or NFL, not so much.

Elite soccer players are very skilled and very good athletes, they're just not freaks like those dominating the NFL and NBA.
 
#93
#93
BigPapaVol said:
I hear the points about soccer players and the skill required but I'm just not buying that it's the same as our basketball and football players.

The combination of freakish size AND athleticism sets apart the professionals in American sport. I would submit that many of our basketball players and speed football players could be great soccer players with practice. Soccer players trying to play in the NBA or NFL, not so much.

Elite soccer players are very skilled and very good athletes, they're just not freaks like those dominating the NFL and NBA.
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I would submit that most European professional soccer players have far more athletic skill and endurance than the majority of players in major US pro sports.
 
#96
#96
volfanbill said:
I have to completely disagree with this. It's a completely different talent.
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it's hand-eye coordination, plain and simple. Mix in some speed and stamina, remove any requisites to play football or basketball. voila, soccer player.
 
#97
#97
milohimself said:
I would submit that most European professional soccer players have far more athletic skill and endurance than the majority of players in major US pro sports.
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I would say the athletic ability gap between an NBA basketball player and a Euro soccer player is similar to the gap between a collegiate DT and a HS DT.
 
#98
#98
BigPapaVol said:
it's hand-eye coordination, plain and simple. Mix in some speed and stamina, remove any requisites to play football or basketball. voila, soccer player.
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it's foot-eye coordination I guess, but there's no way you can just pull Kobe Bryant or Lebron James away from basketball and have him practice soccer for two years and become an elite soccer player.
 
#99
#99
If soccer was as huge in the USA as it is in the rest of the world, I'm sure a number of our top athletes would be playing soccer. Most countries don't have 3 or more major sports leagues stealing away all the athletic talent.
 
#100
#100
Thats a good point TreeGreen...

Whether you like the sport or not is one thing, but questioning the athletic ability of soccer players is stupid...
 
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