Debbie Jennings

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may seek legal action againt the University for forcing a retirement, resign, or be fired. She is trying to get them to settle w/out seeking legal route. Full story on Govolsxtra.com. I just think that our PR is really bad right now with this and Bud Ford problems.
 
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The whole "I'm not going to abandon Pat" is crap. She wanted to keep her job like anybody else would in her position. After the so called discrimination claim and the fact she said she wanted to keep her benefits says it all. Not saying it's not justified but let's call it what it is

Also, Hart told her she could pursue a case against the school if she wanted to. You think he didn't know something like this was going to happen in this day and age? I'm guessing the department and school were well aware what they were getting into with these layoffs. This isn't the first time the university of Tennessee has "retired" somebody.

This is a case where the people saying it's bad PR are right, and the people that are saying it's necessary are right, too.

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I will make a wild guess here and say she has gotten the better deal over the years between UT and her. She needs to STFU to put it mildly.
 
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I was not a fan of the Hart hire, but I gotta say, he's growing on me. This stupid broad has been on UTAD welfare and needs to send a thank you card, flowers, and shut the F up.
 
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bamacheats said:
I was not a fan of the Hart hire, but I gotta say, he's growing on me. This stupid broad has been on UTAD welfare and needs to send a thank you card, flowers, and shut the F up.
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Don't know the person but the HR departments, in general, aren't stupid and they always seek out legal advice when necessary BEFORE they take action(s) to ensure they're on solid ground. Jennings rattling sabers and threats will only cost her money; question is, how much is she willing to lose. Yes, it may cost UT some dough too but I'm betting UT will prevail. Give Hart kudos for doing (apparently) what is and has been needed.
 
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How does one know what is and has been needed? Hart seems nothing more than a corporate hatchet man, IMO. Time will tell.

Jennings, 57, was replaced by Eric Trainer, a younger male staff member. Her salary was $93,296 at the time, according to the university; TrainerÂ’s salary was $66,300.
 
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Slydell said:
How does one know what is and has been needed? Hart seems nothing more than a corporate hatchet man, IMO. Time will tell.

Jennings, 57, was replaced by Eric Trainer, a younger male staff member. Her salary was $93,296 at the time, according to the university; TrainerÂ’s salary was $66,300.
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sounds like he doing something right:)
 
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Not in my opinion if it is what it appears to be. Get rid of older employees and replace them with younger employees for far less money? I don't know the details but that's what I see on the surface.
 
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your point? thats how business works. my brother in-law works for g.m. thousands of older workers replaced by younger ones at 2/3's the pay. might not seem right, but it happens alllll the time. the university is a business. we'll find out if the way they go rid of her is legal, and if it is, then they are doing what they feel they need to do to run a competitive business....... it's not personal, its business. would you pay more than $25,000 yr more than you had to for the same work done?
 
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Slydell said:
How does one know what is and has been needed? Hart seems nothing more than a corporate hatchet man, IMO. Time will tell.

Jennings, 57, was replaced by Eric Trainer, a younger male staff member. Her salary was $93,296 at the time, according to the university; TrainerÂ’s salary was $66,300.
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If you wanna know why jobs, along with wages and benefits have been going straight in the shxtter in this country since the 80's....just read all the replies to what you are saying. We're all as dumb as a box of rocks and we probably deserve it, though. Maybe when we're all working for 3rd-world wages we'll be satisfied we have sunk low enough to get a better aim at that corporate a$$ we've been kissing.
 
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Apparently, Hart is the man tasked with dragging the University of Tennessee, kicking and screaming into the 21th Century! No one likes to be dismissed from their position. Problem is, in this world the object is to make things more efficient. Like it or not!


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I never agree with allvol, but he is spot on about this. The UTAD is not a welfare agency anymore. Why should Debby be treated any different than some poor schulb laid off from a machine shop, hospital or burger joint? What makes her or any UT employee so special? It makes sense to get rid of a $90K+ salary and replace it with a $60K+ salary as long as the job gets done. If she is worth her salt, and she may be, she will market her skills and get another job. I am sure because she is well known in the area, she has a lot better chance of landing work than the regular Joe.
 
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PineyBluff Vol said:
Apparently, Hart is the man tasked with dragging the University of Tennessee, kicking and screaming into the 21th Century! No one likes to be dismissed from their position. Problem is, in this world the object is to make things more efficient. Like it or not!


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Well I see our problem now, we are headed into the wrong century, tell Dave he needs to take us to the 21st century.:eek:k:
 
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bamacheats said:
I was not a fan of the Hart hire, but I gotta say, he's growing on me. This stupid broad has been on UTAD welfare and needs to send a thank you card, flowers, and shut the F up.
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How exactly are you qualified to say she was on "UTAD welfare"?

You're talking about someone who worked 12-14 hour days non-stop for 35 years, and was abruptly shown the door. How dare you attack someone like that?

You need to get a clue. People aren't just expendable names, these are actual people with lives and families, many of whom have given up many areas of their private lives in order to serve the University and its athletic programs for decades. People, like you, who have ZERO idea what they actually do on a daily basis have no right.
 
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volroadwarrior said:
I never agree with allvol, but he is spot on about this. The UTAD is not a welfare agency anymore. Why should Debby be treated any different than some poor schulb laid off from a machine shop, hospital or burger joint? What makes her or any UT employee so special? It makes sense to get rid of a $90K+ salary and replace it with a $60K+ salary as long as the job gets done. If she is worth her salt, and she may be, she will market her skills and get another job. I am sure because she is well known in the area, she has a lot better chance of landing work than the regular Joe.
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So your opinion is that people with experience and tenure in a position should be dismissed because someone younger can do it cheaper? Let me know how that works out when your company dumps you two years before retirement age and leaves you and your family out on your ass.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
How exactly are you qualified to say she was on "UTAD welfare"?

You're talking about someone who worked 12-14 hour days non-stop for 35 years, and was abruptly shown the door. How dare you attack someone like that?

You need to get a clue. People aren't just expendable names, these are actual people with lives and families, many of whom have given up many areas of their private lives in order to serve the University and its athletic programs for decades. People, like you, who have ZERO idea what they actually do on a daily basis have no right.
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You're just butt hurt because you called out Basilio as a liar, then got burnt, then tried to say "well this is all new so he was still wrong" interference, and your UTAD welfare check may be on the line.

I don't know Debbie Jennings personally. I didn't attack her character. Fact is the UTAD has been a defacto welfare program for years and its nice to see a change, even if its been forced by the economy.

Debbie Jennings didn't give up a $100k+ job a year to "serve" the University for $90k+ a year. Get a grip on reality.
 
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bamacheats said:
You're just butt hurt because you called out Basilio as a liar, then got burnt, then tried to say "well this is all new so he was still wrong" interference, and your UTAD welfare check may be on the line.

I don't know Debbie Jennings personally. I didn't attack her character. Fact is the UTAD has been a defacto welfare program for years and its nice to see a change, even if its been forced by the economy.

Debbie Jennings didn't give up a $100k+ job a year to "serve" the University for $90k+ a year. Get a grip on reality.
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The situations are not related in any way, this isn't even the same board. He's still a liar and a cheat and there's years of documentation on that.

You could not be more wrong about UTAD being a "welfare program." Just because you have no idea what someone's job entails doesn't mean they aren't doing anything.

It's real easy for "fans" to say that there are a bunch of people that sit around and collect paychecks, but that's not reality. Not even close. Yet, despite saying you don't know these people, you somehow feel qualified to tell all of us that they don't deserve employment anymore. You get a grip.

She got to her salary by years of incremental raises over the years. She didn't show up 35 years ago and start raking in 90k.
 
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Slydell said:
Not in my opinion if it is what it appears to be. Get rid of older employees and replace them with younger employees for far less money? I don't know the details but that's what I see on the surface.
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Was Trainer already on staff, and now just doing both his job and her job? I will also add I am not saying what Hart did was right or wrong because like most of us, we don't know all the details that go into the decision or exactly how they tried told her beyond the bottome line of retire, resign, or be fired.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
The situations are not related in any way, this isn't even the same board. He's still a liar and a cheat and there's years of documentation on that.
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Documentation? I'd love to see these "documents".
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You could not be more wrong about UTAD being a "welfare program." Just because you have no idea what someone's job entails doesn't mean they aren't doing anything.

It's real easy for "fans" to say that there are a bunch of people that sit around and collect paychecks, but that's not reality. Not even close. Yet, despite saying you don't know these people, you somehow feel qualified to tell all of us that they don't deserve employment anymore. You get a grip.

She got to her salary by years of incremental raises over the years. She didn't show up 35 years ago and start raking in 90k.
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The fact that you think that she is owed a job shows that you've also succumb to welfare state mentality. She performed a service, she was compensated (generously), end of story. Her position was replaced at a $30k savings. That $30k is the handout she was getting. You seem to be disillusioned into thinking that she "earned" that money.

Your condescending statement about "fans" only gives further evidence that you're too close to the situation and your emotions cloud logic.
 
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