Defensive debate and recruiting (split from Dawson thread)

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skeeter33418

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You guys should give Wilcox a chance. This man could be the best dc we've had in 50 years. I know we had Monte, he was a great nfl dc. Wilcox only implemented about 1/3 of his defense, the bodies just arent there at the moment. We couldnt run nickel/dime packages hardly at all this year. Being thin along the line doesnt help either. Most people dont understand just how good of a job this def staff done this year.
Once we get some depth and a little more talent, we'll have a nasty D. Barring any injuries, our d-line will be pretty nasty next year.
 
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skeeter33418 said:
You guys should give Wilcox a chance. This man could be the best dc we've had in 50 years. I know we had Monte, he was a great nfl dc. Wilcox only implemented about 1/3 of his defense, the bodies just arent there at the moment. We couldnt run nickel/dime packages hardly at all this year. Being thin along the line doesnt help either. Most people dont understand just how good of a job this def staff done this year.
Once we get some depth and a little more talent, we'll have a nasty D. Barring any injuries, our d-line will be pretty nasty next year.
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Dang right. But Volnation expects him to turn champagne outta lemons. The whole team showed growth through the year and I expect steady growth for the next two years. After that, I think we will see how high our ceiling is and what changes would need to be made to go higher.
 
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We had more sacks this year than we did last year with all mighty Orgeron, & dont forget a 1st round draft pick in Dan Williams & a solid DT in Wes Brown.

We had the most INT's in 1 season since 1999, yet we had Eric Berry, Dennis Rogan, & Monte last year. We started a 23 year old true freshmen at SS & 2 1st year startes at CB in Gordon & Teague.

Yet everyone wants to complain about Wilcox :no:
 
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Overall the defense as a whole played well. People were hard on the LB's this year but overall they played really well and so did our secondary. I swear I don't think half the people on here have ever played the game. With an undersized D line there taking a lot of the brunt of the run blocking. Poor explanation, but I think most can figure it out. Kudos to D line too. Really only one true D tackle. Malik played great though. Hughes had his moments, but was keyed on many times. Hughes played with a lot of intensity in bowl game.
 
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jmoore_21 said:
We had more sacks this year than we did last year with all mighty Orgeron, & dont forget a 1st round draft pick in Dan Williams & a solid DT in Wes Brown.

We had the most INT's in 1 season since 1999, yet we had Eric Berry, Dennis Rogan, & Monte last year. We started a 23 year old true freshmen at SS & 2 1st year startes at CB in Gordon & Teague.

Yet everyone wants to complain about Wilcox :no:
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+1
 
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jmoore_21 said:
We had more sacks this year than we did last year with all mighty Orgeron, & dont forget a 1st round draft pick in Dan Williams & a solid DT in Wes Brown.

We had the most INT's in 1 season since 1999, yet we had Eric Berry, Dennis Rogan, & Monte last year. We started a 23 year old true freshmen at SS & 2 1st year startes at CB in Gordon & Teague.

Yet everyone wants to complain about Wilcox :no:
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I agree with you! There are sometimes I get frustrated watching the defense play but then I remember how young we are and the lack of depth we have. Wilcox did a great job and I am sure it will get even better.
 
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jmoore_21 said:
We had more sacks this year than we did last year with all mighty Orgeron, & dont forget a 1st round draft pick in Dan Williams & a solid DT in Wes Brown.

We had the most INT's in 1 season since 1999, yet we had Eric Berry, Dennis Rogan, & Monte last year. We started a 23 year old true freshmen at SS & 2 1st year startes at CB in Gordon & Teague.

Yet everyone wants to complain about Wilcox :no:
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Right on Jmoore, we all knew with the fulmer and lane debacle it probably wont be till Dooleys 3rd season till we see flashes of a dominant D line. Funny as soon as the first snap of this year we all forget. Me included at times
 
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I don't have many complaints for the D. The secondary was by far the weakest IMO. I expected much better. AJ Green, J. Jones, and Alshon Jeffrey lit us up. Basically, if we played against a good receiver, they could expect to have a career night.
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Ben Martin coming off his medical redshirt will be a beast next year imo. The only positive of his injury will be 2 years of Chuck Smith.
 
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LynxVol said:
I don't have many complaints for the D. The secondary was by far the weakest IMO. I expected much better. AJ Green, J. Jones, and Alshon Jeffrey lit us up. Basically, if we played against a good receiver, they could expect to have a career night.
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those three lit alot of people up
 
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jmoore_21 said:
We had more sacks this year than we did last year with all mighty Orgeron, & dont forget a 1st round draft pick in Dan Williams & a solid DT in Wes Brown.

We had the most INT's in 1 season since 1999, yet we had Eric Berry, Dennis Rogan, & Monte last year. We started a 23 year old true freshmen at SS & 2 1st year startes at CB in Gordon & Teague.

Yet everyone wants to complain about Wilcox :no:
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Last year, we were 17th in the nation in total defense. This year, we weren't in the top half of FBS in that category.
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SGMVols said:
Last year, we were 17th in the nation in total defense. This year, we weren't in the top half of FBS in that category.
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We did not have the same kind of talent either. We still got ran over by Ole Miss and VT. I would like to see what Wilcox could have accomplished with a Dennis Rogan and Eric Berry in the secondary much less a bigger defensive line.
 
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onevol74 said:
We did not have the same kind of talent either. We still got ran over by Ole Miss and VT. I would like to see what Wilcox could have accomplished with a Dennis Rogan and Eric Berry in the secondary much less a bigger defensive line.
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Ole Miss won 9 games and Virginia Tech won 11 last year. This year, UT's defense got shredded by a 4-8 UAB team and a Georgia team that couldn't beat Colorado and finished with a losing season.
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Im sure losing E Berry, D Williams, R Mccoy, D Rogan, and W Brown had nothing to do with that. Then to top it off, Martin and Walls have season ending injuries to an already thin d-line.
 
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Wouldn't get too caught up in stats from 2 defenses with different personnel, and different schedules in trying to prove a point either way.

Monte wasn't here long enough to get a gauge. Wilcox hasn't been either.
 
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BeecherVol said:
Wouldn't get too caught up in stats from 2 defenses with different personnel, and different schedules in trying to prove a point either way.

Monte wasn't here long enough to get a gauge. Wilcox hasn't been either.
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There is no room on this board for common sense and logic.
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BeecherVol said:
Wouldn't get too caught up in stats from 2 defenses with different personnel, and different schedules in trying to prove a point either way.

Monte wasn't here long enough to get a gauge. Wilcox hasn't been either.
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Absolutely. Monte also had the best defensive player in the SEC to work with. So comparing the two is pointless.
 
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SpringBokVol said:
You can't use actual data to proove a point.
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it's not actually data, it's a statistic. While made up of data, it doesn't actually prove anything. But it is a good contributing factor in a supposition, or statement of likelihood.
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skeeter33418 said:
Im sure losing E Berry, D Williams, R Mccoy, D Rogan, and W Brown had nothing to do with that. Then to top it off, Martin and Walls have season ending injuries to an already thin d-line.
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Also moving M Jackson to DT Mid season, Moving Waggoner to CB, Starting Brewer after not playing ball for years. A new DC and coaching staff... I dont understand why we did not complete the NC.....:)
 
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SGMVols said:
Ole Miss won 9 games and Virginia Tech won 11 last year. This year, UT's defense got shredded by a 4-8 UAB team and a Georgia team that couldn't beat Colorado and finished with a losing season.
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I'm guessing that has nothing to do with this team not having 2 1st round draft picks in Eric Berry & Dan Williams, having a solid CB in Dennis Rogan, having a solid LB in Rico McCoy, & actual serviceable DT's.

This years team had a OL turned DT starting in a few games, a walk-on DT that weighed less than 260, a 23 yr old True Freshmen SS that had'nt played football in 4 years, 2 1st year starters at CB, a S turned CB getting meaningful snaps, having 2 of the best DL go down in fall practice with season ending injuries. A DE turned DT mid-season.

Yea let's just forget about all of that & just say Tennessee had 1st round draft picks all across the board.
 
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jmoore_21 said:
I'm guessing that has nothing to do with this team not having 2 1st round draft picks in Eric Berry & Dan Williams, having a solid CB in Dennis Rogan, having a solid LB in Rico McCoy, & actual serviceable DT's.

This years team had a OL turned DT starting in a few games, a walk-on DT that weighed less than 260, a 23 yr old True Freshmen SS that had'nt played football in 4 years, 2 1st year starters at CB, a S turned CB getting meaningful snaps, having 2 of the best DL go down in fall practice with season ending injuries. A DE turned DT mid-season.

Yea let's just forget about all of that & just say Tennessee had 1st round draft picks all across the board.
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Exxxacccctttly.
 
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jmoore_21 said:
I'm guessing that has nothing to do with this team not having 2 1st round draft picks in Eric Berry & Dan Williams, having a solid CB in Dennis Rogan, having a solid LB in Rico McCoy, & actual serviceable DT's.

This years team had a OL turned DT starting in a few games, a walk-on DT that weighed less than 260, a 23 yr old True Freshmen SS that had'nt played football in 4 years, 2 1st year starters at CB, a S turned CB getting meaningful snaps, having 2 of the best DL go down in fall practice with season ending injuries. A DE turned DT mid-season.

Yea let's just forget about all of that & just say Tennessee had 1st round draft picks all across the board.
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J it's useless to even try with him... He has a continuous flow of urine into his Corn Flakes... My only wish is that the ignore function worked on quotes...
 
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