Deferring to 2nd half is stupid

#78
#78
camp_steveo said:
That's it.

If I was CJH and I won the toss Saturday, I am taking the ball. This offense needs to score as often as possible, and you can't risk even a single possession.

Take the ball coach Heup, if by some wild chance you are reading VN these days.

Get the ball and go out there and punch UGA's defensive front right in the mouth while our O-line is fresh. Set the tone and hopefully get some points on the board, but whatever you do, don't defer to the 2nd half.

I know a bunch of ya'll will disagree, but I remember when no one did that. It was common sense back then. You win the toss, you take the ball.
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You tell 'em coach!!
 
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#80
#80
wmcovol said:
Yeah, well 98% of the coaches agree with me.

Learn the rules and when changes were made before you make dumbass comments.
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You're right. I never knew that they didn't have a choice to defer in the NCAA until 2008.

Learn something new every day.
 
#81
#81
Manning4ever said:
300 ypg against nobody's. What is his statics against Bama?
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Irrelevant. Not playing Bama.
He’s playing another nobody.
Played better against common opponents than Joe.
And every QB that’s played US and UGA has been better against Us.
 
#82
#82
Drewbydoo said:
This is the way to go and Kirby has even said that part of UGA's success is because they score early. ie their game plan relies on being up by a TD or a FG and the opposing team feeling the pressure of catching up.

The first few possessions are scripted to catch the opposing team off guard and either leading at the half or having the momentum at the half. If UGA is trailing at the half, Kirby will make an adjustment the opposing coach has yet to see that day and THAT should be more effective than what they had been doing. His point was that he evolves pushes a new narrative at the half and that's why UGA can come from behind at the half or extend the lead they have at half time.

Anyway... other's may disagree with you, but when it comes to UGA or Kirby, Kirby wouldn't disagree with you. When UGA defers, Kirby says it's a calculated risk. Anyway, good for you for mentioning it as a topic of discussion, because it's highly relevant when playing UGA.
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Well, thanks for saying, but I should have used more tact and had a better understanding of the history of the rules.

I have always thought getting the ball makes more sense than trying to predict the number of possessions. That, to me, is much more of a risk than just get the ball as many times as possible, including the toss.
 
#83
#83
Beck is no Stetson Bennett. Everyone knows Bennett is a drunk that never did anything. What should we expect when we win by 21.
A 3 loss Tennessee deserves a new year's day bowl
 
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Manning4ever said:
Beck is no Stetson Bennett. Everyone knows Bennett is a drunk that never did anything. What should we expect when we win by 21.
A 3 loss Tennessee deserves a new year's day bowl
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YankeeVol said:
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You really think that #13 was better than Hinton Hooker, Caleb Williams, CJ Stoud. 2 undefeated seasons, 2 national championships don't matter when they play nobody.
.I will beat if they go undeated this year you will think they deserve another national championship
 
#90
#90
K-town Vol Fan said:
Because it makes too much sense to try to "double up" possessions at the end of the half and after halftime. We almost pulled it off against Mizzou if it weren't for that fumble, and that absolutely changed the game. Imagine if we came out of halftime leading 14-10 and getting the ball back instead of being down 13-7. That was a huge swing and absolutely destroyed our momentum.
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This is exactly why I would always choose to defer. Get one stop early, and all the advantage is yours, and the chance to double up can put games away if executed. If we got 10 points out of the end of half / 2nd half KO scenario at Missouri, we lead the game 17-10 and it's an entirely different deal. I agree, the fumble and ensuing Missouri FG was a crusher that we didn't recover from.
 
#91
#91
volfanhill said:
You aren't funny, clever, or tricking anyone. But if it's how you get your rocks off have fun. Seems like a crappy sad existence.
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I do live a crappy sad existence. I never thought I would get caught.
I wish Tennessee could have a good season, I believe we could have a good season with coach Heupel.
I also believe we win the east next year
When we win Saturday I will be destroyed by the fact that I was wrong
I have believed in us all year, I really believed we would have beat Florida, Bama, Missouri. I am shocked ga has won the east again.
I never thought a team who has such a weak schedule would have a chance to win the east.
When we win Saturday ga will have an asterisk by there name.
No way they make it to the playoffs again
 
#92
#92
camp_steveo said:
That's it.

If I was CJH and I won the toss Saturday, I am taking the ball. This offense needs to score as often as possible, and you can't risk even a single possession.

Take the ball coach Heup, if by some wild chance you are reading VN these days.

Get the ball and go out there and punch UGA's defensive front right in the mouth while our O-line is fresh. Set the tone and hopefully get some points on the board, but whatever you do, don't defer to the 2nd half.

I know a bunch of ya'll will disagree, but I remember when no one did that. It was common sense back then. You win the toss, you take the ball.
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Coaches refer to it as ‘the middle 8’. Amazing how many games are won/loss in the middle 8. Steal points to end the half, first drive of 2nd half sets the tone to finish games.

All that said, absolutely makes sense to take the ball first this game. Everyone has scored on UGA 1st drive. Take the ball, score, and Neyland is rocking.
 
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Kicking off to begin the game is about field position and odds. I like kicking off to start a game. Sometimes it bites you. More often than not, it bites the receiving team.
 
#97
#97
camp_steveo said:
That's it.

If I was CJH and I won the toss Saturday, I am taking the ball. This offense needs to score as often as possible, and you can't risk even a single possession.

Take the ball coach Heup, if by some wild chance you are reading VN these days.

Get the ball and go out there and punch UGA's defensive front right in the mouth while our O-line is fresh. Set the tone and hopefully get some points on the board, but whatever you do, don't defer to the 2nd half.

I know a bunch of ya'll will disagree, but I remember when no one did that. It was common sense back then. You win the toss, you take the ball.
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You take the ball maybe more if you have a team like year with high confidence of scoring on first possession. This year, not so much. There's a reason college and NFL teams take the second half kick. I'm sure that data supports an early first possession score is not as valuable as having momentum going into halftime and then impact trajectory of second half right out of the gate
 
#98
#98
dumb take. it always makes sense to try for the double dip at the end of half/start of second half. Even my 5 year old understands this.
 
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#99
#99
You have got to be trolling. Becks good, Georgia's good, we haven't beat anyone worth a flip either, 0% chance we go to a new year's bowl. We're likely to be out of the top 25 or just inside
 
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