Delta Variant

I'm still wondering if I had the Alpha strain in February 2020. Several flights, including one that turned into eight hours because of heading to divert due to a blizzard. A few weeks later, I spent a free days unable to get out of bed with flu symptoms but none of the flu strain tests showed anything. Lungs looked like I had early pneumonia but had too many other symptoms on top of it.
 
This is an interesting fact check -- assuming they are correct they are confirming that the death rate from the delta variant is less than 1%.

Inadvertently it is confirming the delta (or any known variant) isn't likely to cause a wave because most of the at risk people have been vaxxed.

So the question is should we treat the current Covid situation the way we treated it in 2020?

There is no evidence that the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2 has a lower fatality rate than the wild-type virus

Conclusion
The CFR of the Delta variant is low for the general population, around 0.2%, but this may be because most of the population at a higher risk of dying from COVID-19 has been vaccinated in the U.K., which has reduced deaths caused by the disease. This also means that those who remain unvaccinated and unprotected are mainly people under 50 years old. The majority of Delta variant infections in the U.K. are occurring in this population, hence the CFR of the Delta variant mainly represents that of the population under 50 years old. Comparing the CFR of the Delta variant with that of the wild-type virus at a time before vaccines were available is misleading, since the former excludes most of the population over 50 years old, which has a higher CFR but is mostly vaccinated. In summary, there isn’t sufficient evidence that allows us to conclude that the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2 is less lethal than the wild-type virus.
Yes, you'd have to compare CFR of the same age group.
 
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I'm still wondering if I had the Alpha strain in February 2020. Several flights, including one that turned into eight hours because of heading to divert due to a blizzard. A few weeks later, I spent a free days unable to get out of bed with flu symptoms but none of the flu strain tests showed anything. Lungs looked like I had early pneumonia but had too many other symptoms on top of it.
Fauci says you need 3 more boosters, wear an additional 2 masks, double glove, and stay indoors away from other humans or pets for at least 6 months.
 
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The vaccine or die rhetoric is really going to surprise @Vol Main who said this was never done

Edit: I do not quite know what you are talking about, and you do not appear to get whatever I was saying. Please leave me out of comments so over broad that they only serve confusion and ill will. Seriously, are you talking about Democrats knocking on peoples' doors with an ultimatum to take the vaccine or be shot? Maybe you know what you are talking about. I don't.
 
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Okay people need to stop with the "if you don't choose the vaccine, you are choosing death" rhetoric. That is simply not true and "the science" tells us your chance of death (if contracting Covid) is 1-2% depending on your age and health.
I don't doubt her sincerity in believing people will die (she is correct) but her statement is at odds with facts.

I agree with you but along that same line of thinking, I'm done feeling sorrow for these 99% (of covid cases) in hospitals who have chosen to not to get the vax. That's their choice. They knew the risk. Why parade these people on ventilators on the news every night?
 
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Fauci says you need 3 more boosters, wear an additional 2 masks, double glove, and stay indoors away from other humans or pets for at least 6 months.

If you need to resort to hyperbole to make a point, you should consider if the point was worth making to begin with.
 
Where all the hate for the anti vaxer parents that refuse to vaccinate their kids for the common diseases ?
 
So much “if we don’t get vaccinated, we will all die” being thrown around. Amazing how gullible and scared people are, 100% buying into this bulls*** fear mongering. How much longer until we start seeing pictures of “over run icus” being shared?
 
So much “if we don’t get vaccinated, we will all die” being thrown around. Amazing how gullible and scared people are, 100% buying into this bulls*** fear mongering. How much longer until we start seeing pictures of “over run icus” being shared?

No rational person is saying "we will all die if we don't get vaccinated." You're just being over hyperbolic to defend your position. If you cannot admit at this point that getting vaccinated is a very effective way of fighting COVID and it can in fact save lives, then you're simply guarding your own ignorance in the interest of wanting to be "right" on this issue.
 
No rational person is saying "we will all die if we don't get vaccinated." You're just being over hyperbolic to defend your position. If you cannot admit at this point that getting vaccinated is a very effective way of fighting COVID and it can in fact save lives, then you're simply guarding your own ignorance in the interest of wanting to be "right" on this issue.

There’s literally a post just a few above ours from a doc at a press conference saying “we’re either going to get vaccinated or accept death…and LOTS of it”. So be honest, do you find that statement to be remotely honest or accurate when looking at the actual statistics? It’s horse sh**. I don’t care if people want to get vaccinated, go for it. I also don’t care if people don’t want to get vaccinated or if they don’t want to walk around wearing a mask. But I’m tired of the fear mongering and “guidelines” with no basis in reality.
 
There’s literally a post just a few above ours from a doc at a press conference saying “we’re either going to get vaccinated or accept death…and LOTS of it”. So be honest, do you find that statement to be remotely honest or accurate when looking at the actual statistics? It’s horse sh**. I don’t care if people want to get vaccinated, go for it. I also don’t care if people don’t want to get vaccinated or if they don’t want to walk around wearing a mask. But I’m tired of the fear mongering and “guidelines” with no basis in reality.

That's not even remotely the same thing as saying "everybody dies" as to imply EVERYBODY on the face of the earth the way you did. He's not wrong. People who are susceptible to the symptoms of COVID and refuse to be vaccinated run a very high risk and yes, many will die. The "LOTS of it" quote is not inaccurate. Even if it's a small percentage when compared to the population as a whole, that's still a very large number of people that will continue to be hospitalized and needlessly overburden the hospital emergency rooms. Now, I'm not at ALL in favor of the government mandating vaccines. Staunchly opposed to it in fact. I would rather like to believe that people would come to their senses on their own and do it voluntarily because it's the rational, sensible thing to do. But as someone above posted, I find it very difficult to find sympathy for those who choose to suffer from this virus because their own paranoia or stubbornness.
 
If you need to resort to hyperbole to make a point, you should consider if the point was worth making to begin with.
If you have to respond to a hyperbolic post then I suggest you go to the local dollar general and buy a sense of humor. Or you can go find something to sit and spin on.
 
No rational person is saying "we will all die if we don't get vaccinated." You're just being over hyperbolic to defend your position. If you cannot admit at this point that getting vaccinated is a very effective way of fighting COVID and it can in fact save lives, then you're simply guarding your own ignorance in the interest of wanting to be "right" on this issue.
Damn man, what's the matter with me choosing to take my chances and possibly build a natural immunity to COVID if I should get it? Is there no value in building natural immunity anymore?
 
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So much “if we don’t get vaccinated, we will all die” being thrown around. Amazing how gullible and scared people are, 100% buying into this bulls*** fear mongering. How much longer until we start seeing pictures of “over run icus” being shared?
Can you post a link to the above quote? I've never heard or read where anyone said that.
 
But let's suppose that post doesn't actually exist. Are you saying that if we don't get vaccinated that we will not all die?
You misquoted her. She neither said nor implied that everyone who doesn't get vacced will die. And I made no statement at all about it. I just asked where you got your quote. You seem to have a problem understanding what you read.
 

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