Delta Variant

[MAD]

You realize the vast majority never come in contact with enforcement right?

Yes, I agree, I screwed up the whole argument.

 

[C-south]

you should be vaccinated regardless of whether you already had COVID-19

Frequently Asked Questions about COVID-19 Vaccination

You do you

 

[C-south]

Do you have data on the risk of getting myocarditis? From what I have seen I would say it’s low enough to not be considered as a “real” risk.

Like getting Covid?

 

[overseasorange2]

Can’t imagine being in school nowadays, school or no school, masks or no masks. You are gonna have a generation of messed up kids.

Just like the last one, and the one before that, etc. etc.

 

[Persian Vol]

Like getting Covid?

There is a pretty significant mortality gap between children and adults, so yes there is a real risk depending on the demographic.

 

[The Original Fade]

It’s not really necessary to get vaccinated if you’ve had COVID, but there’s no denying the vaccines work to slow the spread and decrease hospitalizations for those who have never had COVID.

The problem is that without mandates, which no one including myself wants, how do you know who and who has not been vaccinated when you’re in a crowded restaurant or ball game?

 

[VolStrom]

It’s not really necessary to get vaccinated if you’ve had COVID, but there’s no denying the vaccines work to slow the spread and decrease hospitalizations for those who have never had COVID.

The problem is that without mandates, which no one including myself wants, how do you know who and who has not been vaccinated when you’re in a crowded restaurant or ball game?

It's not your right to know or to try and protect anyone outside of your own family. If you don't get the vaccine I really don't care. If you're so worried get the vaccine, otherwise stay home and wring your hands over the death toll at ball games.

 

[hog88]

It’s not really necessary to get vaccinated if you’ve had COVID, but there’s no denying the vaccines work to slow the spread and decrease hospitalizations for those who have never had COVID.

The problem is that without mandates, which no one including myself wants, how do you know who and who has not been vaccinated when you’re in a crowded restaurant or ball game?

You don't and you shouldn't.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

The virus risk is 0%, even carried out several decimal points.

The vaccine risk short term is a low but real risk of myocardial inflammation and a miniscule risk of anaphylaxis or GBS. Long-term risks are completely unknown.

And to be fair, even the long term risks of COVID by itself are unknown. All of this is new territory... so why are all of the pro-jab people wanting to rush people down these unknown pathways when neither side has sufficient data?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

The problem is that without mandates, which no one including myself wants, how do you know who and who has not been vaccinated when you’re in a crowded restaurant or ball game?

I assume the worst and expect everyone around me could be a risk. I have the personal ability to take measures on my own and protect myself or I can live with the risks and continue on with my life.

Why can't vaccinated people do the same? Take matters into your own hands to protect your self, but leave others alone.

 

[MAD]

This is upsetting, news out of Israel is not good. The vaccines are not holding up well to the Delta Variant.

 

[VolStrom]

This is upsetting, news out of Israel is not good. The vaccines are not holding up well to the Delta Variant.

We're all gonna die!

 

[kiddiedoc]

Do you have data on the risk of getting myocarditis? From what I have seen I would say it’s low enough to not be considered as a “real” risk.

As of July 19, there have been 1,148 reported cases of myocarditis and pericarditis in people aged 30 and younger after receiving CV19 vaccination.

 

[Fun coupon VOL]

you should be vaccinated regardless of whether you already had COVID-19

Frequently Asked Questions about COVID-19 Vaccination

lol

 

[kiddiedoc]

This is upsetting, news out of Israel is not good. The vaccines are not holding up well to the Delta Variant.

Like I said: not shocking, given that the mRNA vaccines only provide protection against the single "original" spike protein, which is exactly what is mutated in the Delta strain.

We are being lied to in the U.S.

I just pray that naturally-acquired immunity holds up. So far, so good in what I've read out of Israel.

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

You better believe politicians are considering shutting things down or trying to make second class citizens of those who don't have the vaccine, or both. And, if we get back to that point, the only way it could be justified it will be because the vaccine doesn't work. But we know the vaccine works very well, so we will never get back to that point. Any attempt to shut us down will have nothing to do with the people who don't get the vaccine. They are taking the risk of not getting it, and they are not endangering the vaccinated when taking that risk. If they catch covid, then the consequences are on them if they die or have to be hospitalized. As long as there is no run on the hospitals, there is zero reason for the government to do anything more than it has already done.

Its possible that if enough people don't take the vaccine, this virus could keep mutating to a point where the current vaccine is basically useless.

 

[VolStrom]

Its possible that if enough people don't take the vaccine, this virus could keep mutating to a point where the current vaccine is basically useless.

Sounds like the Andromeda strain. Maybe we just let nature take its course and let this fizzle out on its own without government intervention.

 

[kiddiedoc]

Its possible that if enough people don't take the vaccine, this virus could keep mutating to a point where the current vaccine is basically useless.

Utter nonsense

 

[overseasorange2]

As of July 19, there have been 1,148 reported cases of myocarditis and pericarditis in people aged 30 and younger after receiving CV19 vaccination.

Seems like your chances of getting struck by lightening would be higher. Maybe not.....

 

[The Original Fade]

I assume the worst and expect everyone around me could be a risk. I have the personal ability to take measures on my own and protect myself or I can live with the risks and continue one with my life.

Why can't vaccinated people do the same? Take matters into your own hands to protect your self, but leave others alone.

You assume the risk for yourself which is responsible, but if you do become infected you run the risk of infecting someone else before getting a confirmatory diagnosis. That’s why it’s smart to just get vaccinated if you have not had COVID before.

 

[The Original Fade]

You don't and you shouldn't.

Correct, which is why I was vaccinated. I don’t know who around me are responsible vs irresponsible

 

[The Original Fade]

It's not your right to know or to try and protect anyone outside of your own family. If you don't get the vaccine I really don't care. If you're so worried get the vaccine, otherwise stay home and wring your hands over the death toll at ball games.

Wrong, if I am not vaccinated I run the risk of being infected and spreading it to innocent people. It’s not just my family - we don’t live in a bubble, which is why I was vaccinated. Protect myself, my family, and my fellow citizen

 

[hog88]

Correct, which is why I was vaccinated. I don’t know who around me are responsible vs irresponsible

Do you ever?

 

[hog88]

Wrong, if I am not vaccinated I run the risk of being infected and spreading it to innocent people. It’s not just my family - we don’t live in a bubble, which is why I was vaccinated. Protect myself, my family, and my fellow citizen

Good for you.

 

[hUTch2002]

Well the covid vaccine doesn't have the actual virus in it, unlike the flu vaccine. So in his case he was probably just unlucky. How long was it after he was poked before he got sick?

It depends. I’ve heard more people than not say they got sick from the vaccine. I’ve seen some that were very seriously sick. It’s similar to the virus, for most it’s no big deal but for some people it is a huge deal and could be fatal.