Dennis Dodd article

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TNHopeful505 said:
Lacking punishment for Tennessee's egregious cheating leaves Greg Sankey unsure about future of enforcement

This article basically said we didn't get punished hard enough, despite all of our cooperation. He is arguing for a post season ban for us.
I obviously disagree.

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I'm sure the fact that this is the last year of the CBS/SEC contract had nothing to do with his Investigative Journalism.

OTOH have to say always thought he was pretty objective with us. See above.
 
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While the volume of infractions is significant, the amount of money involved wasnt. A total of $60k means a lot of $200-500 meals, manicures, car payments etc. This wasn’t really enough to seriously persuade a player to sign. It’s reported Washington got $750 from BN. Hell, that was basically enough for a prom date with a limo but nothing to get him to sign.

There’s a lot of these “media” guys now who are simply “jocksnifers” for the alma mater. I put Dodd & Forde in that crowd regardless of their employer
 
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wmcovol said:
While the volume of infractions is significant, the amount of money involved wasnt. A total of $60k means a lot of $200-500 meals, manicures, car payments etc. This wasn’t really enough to seriously persuade a player to sign. It’s reported Washington got $750 from BN. Hell, that was basically enough for a prom date with a limo but nothing to get him to sign.

There’s a lot of these “media” guys now who are simply “jocksnifers” for the alma mater. I put Dodd & Forde in that crowd regardless of their employer
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Not to mention

Literally no one involved is still here and it would be wholly unfair to punish our currently innocent team.
 
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wmcovol said:
Exactly. So Dodd & Forde support penalizing innocent parties (players & coaches who were not involved) instead of those guilty.
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I think they are asshats with a desire to inflict pain and bitch about a school they don't like.

They have about as much value as a below average message board poster. Pat Forde has the track record of ethical violations that should've rendered him nothing more than an anonymous online dickhead long ago.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
He ain't wrong. Even with our cooperation, we got off really light given 18 L1 amd 200 total infractions...
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We took a lit of hits and fell on our sword early. No reason to punish kids and coaches who had nothing to do with the infractions. Fair is fair. Punish criminals not the institutions they were employed by. As long as there was no collusion, the NCAA did what was right and appropriate. This is where the NCAA needs to right the ship in future cases. Let the clickbait hacks throw stones if they must. They have an agenda obviously and they can all just go screw themselves with their holier than thou attitudes.
 
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ptgrbn said:
We took a lit of hits and fell on our sword early. No reason to punish kids and coaches who had nothing to do with the infractions. Fair is fair. Punish criminals not the institutions they were employed by. As long as there was no collusion, the NCAA did what was right and appropriate. This is where the NCAA needs to right the ship in future cases. Let the clickbait hacks throw stones if they must. They have an agenda obviously and they can all just go screw themselves with their holier than thou attitudes.
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Let's say tomorrow, they catch several of Saban's assistants, other members of the football staff, and several members of the athletic department doing the exact thing while the AD/Saban is asleep at the wheel. Bama admits they are wrong and fire the people caught. Would we be OK with no postseason ban for Bama?
 
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We put the NCAA on a tightrope, because we did everything an "intend to be clean" program could have done after the misdeeds were discovered. If they had come down too hard, they would have removed any incentive for future rulebreakers to do anything except deny, deter, resist and hide. The NCAA had to leave this with some incentive to self-report and be good citizens.
 
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Without reading it and I’m not reading it I have no idea but I can say Tennessee got off basically with no major punishment. The scholarship reductions are inconsequential at this point around two per year. NIL makes those completely irrelevant. The monetary fine also is arguably irrelevant when you see Pruitt was fired with cause and all of that money saved. The biggest actual punishment in this whole debacle was the length it went on and the shadow it casted over the entire program.

If Dodd is legit arguing harsher punishments it will lead to programs obfuscating future investigations possibly outright ignoring the NCAA anyways. At this point it’s arguable that the NCAA has any power other than what the super conferences allow them to have.
 
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