Department of Government Efficiency - DOGE

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Septic said:
I literally stated that. Some of these folks believe that Donny is the messiah and beyond criticism.
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As of this term, pretty much A+ if not A++. You are not capable of doing what that guy is doing.... nobody could. You can either accept that reality or reject it, the choice is yours. He is proving me wrong every day. 😂

What you are doing is projecting what you want to happen instead of what is actually happening.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
And he was called out on it....which is how you hold all people accountable...seems pretty simple and standard..I love that your too lazy to verify something on Twitter and take it for truth,..explains alot
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He also publicly retracted it since it was revealed. That's a lot more than nearly any swamp rat I've seen.
 
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NashVol11 said:
Did he? Unless I missed something on Twitter he just said "some things I say will be incorrect and should be corrected" but didn't do any correcting
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It was in the 45 minute YouTube video, of which you posted a one minute clip and stated, "See?! He never mentioned transparency!"

And as a matter of fact, what he said was laudable and a correction.

You claim they want everyone to believe them with no questions asked. When presented with his mistake, he agreed and said, "We'll make mistakes."

I mean, damn. Ya'll claim there is no transparency even as you quote it in action.
 
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NashVol11 said:
Again, believing everything a public official (who just got caught lying about the condoms thing) says, unless some random individual takes it upon themselves to "verify" every single false thing because they provide no proof, is treatment that only Elon gets from the conservatives here. We normally agree on distrust of government officials but Elon gets blind faith
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So your issue is the leg work involved in verifying something someone claims ....it funny when it's a trans issue your balls deeps in research to prove it wrong...but this you want the work done for you ..its like dealing with my 13 year old son..he lazy AF
 
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LSU-SIU said:
As of this term, pretty much A+ if not A++. You are not capable of doing what that guy is doing.... nobody could. You can either accept that reality or reject it, the choice is yours. He is proving me wrong every day. 😂

What you are doing is projecting what you want to happen instead of what is actually happening.
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Nobody could? Trump is the #1 and only one person out of 350+ million that could take these actions? Politicians mostly suck, we don't need to worship like this
 
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whodeycin85 said:
So your issue is the leg work involved in verifying something someone claims ....it funny when it's a trans issue your balls deeps in research to prove it wrong...but this you want the work done for you ..its like dealing with my 13 year old son..he lazy AF
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How is this complicated? If you make claims about massive fraud and huge scandals and "radical left" blah blah blah, you should have something to back it up. It shouldn't just be blind trust unless random individuals with less information prove it wrong. I'm surprised people can even argue against that
 
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NashVol11 said:
I didn't say "see," I said "as far as I know." I haven't seen him retract that but good for him if he did
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What do you think it means when he is presented with the mistake and agrees that mistakes will be made that need to be corrected?

Only the most dense or partisan person in the room would claim that he didn't admit the mistake.
 
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NashVol11 said:
Nobody could? Trump is the #1 and only one person out of 350+ million that could take these actions? Politicians mostly suck, we don't need to worship like this
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I didn't vote for him, but no.... no politician that I could recall in at least U.S. history could do what he had done in context. Its not about worship, its about seeing someone do the job.

How about this, you don't know what you are doing or even talking about.... let him do his job, if there are problems along the way maybe we can discuss. There really isn't much to discuss in depth at this point, you appear to be freaking out which is why you are using words like "worship".

Its just fun to watch, how about sit back and enjoy the show?
 
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NashVol11 said:
How is this complicated? If you make claims about massive fraud and huge scandals and "radical left" blah blah blah, you should have something to back it up. It shouldn't just be blind trust unless random individuals with less information prove it wrong. I'm surprised people can even argue against that
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You have 1 claim...condom ton Gaza which he took back...that's it....everything else is you being to lazy to verify...learn to research on your own if you believe something to be false..that's how it works..
 
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Orange_Crush said:
What do you think it means when he is presented with the mistake and agrees that mistakes will be made that need to be corrected?

Only the most dense or partisan person in the room would claim that he didn't admit the mistake.
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If they should be corrected, then do it. He had no problem posting the false claim to his 200+ million followers, should be easy to correct the record for the same audience rather than a vague "I'll be wrong sometimes"
 
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whodeycin85 said:
You have 1 claim...condom ton Gaza which he took back...that's it....everything else is you being to lazy to verify...learn to research on your own if you believe something to be false..that's how it works..
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People said "condoms to the Taliban," that was also fake. The SSN de-duplication "scandal" was nothing. Pretty much every time someone has looked into one of his claims, it's at best misleading and at worst made up.

But for the avoidance of doubt, I'm saying that when you make wild claims to 200+ million people you should have something to back it up, and your argument is that there's no need for that, just take the government at their word and rely on the public to prove it wrong? I don't know how you argue that with a straight face
 
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NashVol11 said:
How is this complicated? If you make claims about massive fraud and huge scandals and "radical left" blah blah blah, you should have something to back it up. It shouldn't just be blind trust unless random individuals with less information prove it wrong. I'm surprised people can even argue against that
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What do you want from them? The courts are saying the Director, appointed by the President, doesn't have the right to see data for the org he leads. You're saying that this is all negated because they haven't released it to the world yet?

A couple of points:

Trump was elected with a mandate. He's doing it. He doesn't need your approval or trust to do it. Deal with it.

Lots of us have believed that the swamp is corrupt as all hell and beyond. We were called conspiracy theorists, and yet the swampiness of the swamp was proven. So, you're wasting your breath if you want us to withhold opinion on the swampiness of the swamp.

That ship has sailed, my friend. Deal with it.
 
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Ritzwatch said:
So, the money was spent in Mozambique, not the Middle East. For some, the issue is not where the money was spent, but how much money was spent, and whether that is the best allocation of our tax dollars. So, I wonder:

How much money do you think the US should spend on the global effort against AIDS?
If you don't have a dollar amount, I would be satisfied with what you think is a reasonable percentage for the US to pay out of the entire world's contributions to AIDS prevention efforts.

I am just curious. Everyone has a limit. Where is yours?
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But even that much is not clear. Nobody has supported the idea that $50m went to Mozambique for condoms. We do have USAID reports that $60m was spent on all contraceptives globally, so it's hard to believe $50m specifically for condoms in a province of Mozambique is even accurate.

Instead of probing to answer this obvious question that remains ^, we just move along and accept the next bombshell they declare.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
You have 1 claim...condom ton Gaza which he took back...that's it....everything else is you being to lazy to verify...learn to research on your own if you believe something to be false..that's how it works..
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Actually, I think it was today's presser that they brought example contracts and offered to hand them out.

And yet people here are claiming there is no transparency... AS THEY TRY TO MAKE THINGS IN THE SWAMP MORE TRANSPARENT.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Actually, I think it was today's presser that they brought example contracts and offered to hand them out.

And yet people here are claiming there is no transparency... AS THEY TRY TO MAKE THINGS IN THE SWAMP MORE TRANSPARENT.
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Did they try or did they make a show of trying? Can you show me the screenshots she was waving around?

 
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Septic said:
I literally stated that. Some of these folks believe that Donny is the messiah and beyond criticism.
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No doubt.

I just like the shakeup, the shock and what seems like confirmation of what we've known all along. But Trump supporters and those on the right trying to take a lap are missing the point and bigger picture!
 
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NashVol11 said:
Did they try or did they make a show of trying? Can you show me the screenshots she was waving around?

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She offered to give them out to the press. She also offered to share the DOGE daily report to the press. You have this habit of posting one minute videos that are snippets of 30 minute videos, and claiming that "they didn't... see?!"



If you're waiting for them to UPS a box of evidence to you, then get over yourself.

This refusal to believe anything without putting your hands on the documents would have been useful during the TrumputinGate coup.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Actually, I think it was today's presser that they brought example contracts and offered to hand them out.

And yet people here are claiming there is no transparency... AS THEY TRY TO MAKE THINGS IN THE SWAMP MORE TRANSPARENT.
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It's pointless to argue with these people..these are the same people that believe trump was waving around TS documents without proof..and never asked for conformation..
 
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