Department of Government Efficiency - DOGE

That doesn't even address what he said
what he said does not address what Musk tweeted an hour ago about Reuters shuffling money around to hide how they were getting it....more going on here than meets the eye. Musk said Reuters got more than 9 million and how do you know exactly how and where this 9 million+++ ended up and how it was exactly spent? legit org don't try and hide how they got money, where it went and how it was spent.
 
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Our government has no right to forcibly take their citizen’s money for charitable causes. American people are charitable as a whole, so appeal to them to freely donate to causes if they see fit.
Whether specific government expenditures are proper or not is certainly a reasonable discussion to have. Policy questions as to what we should or should not fund aside, I think it is remarkable how many people on this forum talk about government work as if the people doing that work are actual government "employees."

Most government projects are done by contractors. It is not like the State of NC has an army of DOT highway workers who are rebuilding roads in Western NC, that work is being done by contractors. The state doesn't have roving crews of construction engineers building new government buildings; those projects are put out to bid and completed by contractors. The government doesn't have highly specialized bands of software engineers running all their IT control systems, they contract out to companies like IBM. A lot of other government programs are run through government employees who are grant funded. For instance, the Violence Against Women Act funded prosecutors and victim advocates, school safety bills fund school resource officers, etc. Those employees are paid by government funds. The real government employees are the grant administrators, those who will be around running other grants as funding priorities shift. Those employees hired under those grants? Their employment ends with the grant funding cycle ends. Meaning, they weren't really an "employee" in the traditional sense.

If you want efficient government, it almost has to involve contractors. Otherwise, the size of government direct payrolls would skyrocket. And that workforce would cost a lot of money to maintain, as they would have to be highly mobile, building roads in NC one year and in FL the next, then to move to WVa, or Cali, etc... - workforce retention and relocation costs would be prohibitive.

Similarly, the humanitarian relief done by my friends' company is done by them as government contractors. They have the local in-country relationships and connections that take years to build, they can get things done more efficiently than sending a roving squad of Americans into a place where they don't even speak the language.

Again, putting aside the question of whether or not we should engage in relief efforts, or road building, or tech services, government workers are often the bureaucrats behind the administration of government programs. The people doing the work are very often local contractors. The trick for government is funding legit contractors who produce quality results at low cost. Not an easy task.
 
America has a natural increase in tax revenues of about 100B - 200B per year due to increases in our economy.
At 100B increase in revenues per year and all that going to pay down debt with no deficit spending, it would take about 200 to 400 years to satisfy existing debt.
So there might be a lot to celebrate at the Quincentenary of 2276!
 
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Unfortunately I don't think something like that is possible. Nothing about the federal govt is long term anymore. They can't even pass a budget. Everything is short term policy with the next administration trying to do the opposite. There's little common ground between parties.

Although I'm glad to see govt spending put out there for the world to see. It seems like people are finally ready to be mad at where tax dollars are being spent.

I'm still skeptical that Trump 2.0 will bring about significant change. Let's say they actually hit that 1Trillion dollar of spending cuts in the next 12 months. My question is the same as you and others have asked. What do they do with it. If they just roll the money into a diff govt department then it's a failure. If govt spending isn't reduced and we don't see significantly reduced annual deficits it's a failure. Me personally, I'd like to be the first president since like 1956 to reduce the debt from one fiscal year to the next.

Agreed, shuffling spending is not a cut and will be a failure.
 
Its gonna be a loooooong 4 years for some of you folks. As someone that had to sit thru 8 years of Barrys BS and 4 more years of....Barrys BS disguised (kinda) as Bidens term....I know firsthand what it feels like to hate the current leadership. Yall need to pace yourselves though. Trump doesnt even have his cabinet in place yet, and some of you are posting 15 or 20x a day whining and complaining. Pace yourselves. This is a marathon, not a sprint. Contrary to the unbelievably FOS leftist media, nobody is coming to get you and lock you up in a camp.
 
Its gonna be a loooooong 4 years for some of you folks. As someone that had to sit thru 8 years of Barrys BS and 4 more years of....Barrys BS disguised (kinda) as Bidens term....I know firsthand what it feels like to hate the current leadership. Yall need to pace yourselves though. Trump doesnt even have his cabinet in place yet, and some of you are posting 15 or 20x a day whining and complaining. Pace yourselves. This is a marathon, not a sprint. Contrary to the unbelievably FOS leftist media, nobody is coming to get you and lock you up in a camp.
I specifically like the part where many argue they efficiently work from home, and seeing them post all day every day.
 
Its gonna be a loooooong 4 years for some of you folks. As someone that had to sit thru 8 years of Barrys BS and 4 more years of....Barrys BS disguised (kinda) as Bidens term....I know firsthand what it feels like to hate the current leadership. Yall need to pace yourselves though. Trump doesnt even have his cabinet in place yet, and some of you are posting 15 or 20x a day whining and complaining. Pace yourselves. This is a marathon, not a sprint. Contrary to the unbelievably FOS leftist media, nobody is coming to get you and lock you up in a camp.
Saw an interview that a R lawmaker is drafting legislation that any US President that has served two non-concurrent terms would be allowed a third term.

That "pace yourself" advice may be doubly important. Literally.
 
Saw an interview that a R lawmaker is drafting legislation that any US President that has served two non-concurrent terms would be allowed a third term.

That "pace yourself" advice may be doubly important. Literally.
The Tennessee state rep? Lol, I'm sure that will result in a constitutional amendment any day now
 
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The Tennessee state rep? Lol, I'm sure that will result in a constitutional amendment any day now
If it were to ever happen, it would be now with control of house, senate, SCOTUS, and the president with such high approval ratings.

I don't see it happening. Don't even want it to happen. But if it were ever to happen, it'd likely be now.
 
I think 3-4% of gpd for defense is reasonable.

Now tell me what you think is reasonable and why?
depends entirely on what you think "defense" means. Its going to be a higher number if you want to continue to be world police, vs taking a more "isolationist" approach.

its going to be more if you want to ensure you always have the best of everything ALL the time, than if you set an acceptable standard.
 
If it were to ever happen, it would be now with control of house, senate, SCOTUS, and the president with such high approval ratings.

I don't see it happening. Don't even want it to happen. But if it were ever to happen, it'd likely be now.
State legislatures, TN in particular, propose bats*** ideas that will never happen on a daily basis, I wouldn't put much stock into that

(But the fact that they went out of their way to include "non-consecutive" is funny)
 

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