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DOGE Finds $2 Billion in Taxpayer Funds Earmarked for Stacey Abrams-Linked Group​


EPA Chief Lee Zeldin Says Revelation 'extremely concerning'​


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DOGE discovered $2 billion in taxpayer funds set aside for a fledgling nonprofit linked to perennial Georgia Democratic candidate Stacey Abrams.

The Environmental Protection Agency under the Biden administration awarded Power Forward Communities the grant in April 2024 as part of the agency's Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund program. Power Forward Communities received the green energy grant despite the fact that it was founded months earlier in late 2023 and never managed anywhere near the grant's dollar figure—it reported just $100 in total revenue during its first three months in operation, according to its latest tax filings.

Power Forward Communities' grant was one of just eight Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund grants that the EPA doled out in April 2024 and that, altogether, totaled $20 billion. EPA administrator Lee Zeldin announced on Feb. 13 that his staff and Department of Government Efficiency officials discovered that the Biden administration parked that same $20 billion at an outside financial institution before leaving office, limiting the federal government's oversight of the program.

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DOGE Finds $2 Billion in Taxpayer Funds Earmarked for Stacey Abrams-Linked Group

DOGE found $2 billion in taxpayer funds set aside for a fledgling nonprofit linked to perennial Georgia Democratic candidate Stacey Abrams. The Environmental Protection Agency under the Biden administration awarded Power Forward Communities the grant in April 2024 as part of the agency's...
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LSU-SIU said:
Technically, they don't really have to explain anything. I have informed you how this works.
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I think I will take the word of a constitutional lawyer..

In the abstract, it’s absolutely true that the executive branch can look for corruption, fraud, or abuse,” Kermit Roosevelt, a constitutional law professor at the University of Pennsylvania Carey Law School, told us in an email. “If there are agencies or programs that are spending money in ways not authorized by Congress, the executive branch can stop that. But the executive branch cannot unilaterally freeze authorized spending because the executive believes it is wasteful.
 
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NashVol11 said:
Then you're disagreeing with Orangeburst so inform him
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They don't have to inform anyone unless they are required to under law, if they want to provide information not required under law... its voluntary. But even if they are required to under law, a ton of the time they don't.... see Seth Rich. (one would have to use process)
 
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Trump made his claims when talking to reporters in the Oval Office on Feb. 11 about spending cuts proposed by the new Department of Government Efficiency, which is being overseen by Elon Musk. Trump repeatedly returned to the idea that judges didn’t want to allow the executive branch to uncover fraud or corruption. “And it seems hard to believe that judges want to try and stop us from looking for corruption, especially when we found hundreds of millions of dollars’ worth, much more than that, in just a short period of time,” Trump said. “We want to weed out the corruption, and it seems hard to believe that a judge could say we don’t want you to do that. So, maybe we have to look at the judges because that’s a very serious — I think it’s a very serious violation.”
 
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Orangeburst said:
I think I will take the word of a constitutional lawyer..

In the abstract, it’s absolutely true that the executive branch can look for corruption, fraud, or abuse,” Kermit Roosevelt, a constitutional law professor at the University of Pennsylvania Carey Law School, told us in an email. “If there are agencies or programs that are spending money in ways not authorized by Congress, the executive branch can stop that. But the executive branch cannot unilaterally freeze authorized spending because the executive believes it is wasteful.
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This has absolutely nothing to do with anyone using the word "fraud," that constitutional lawyer would laugh in your face if you presented this weird theory to him
 
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Orangeburst said:
Trump made his claims when talking to reporters in the Oval Office on Feb. 11 about spending cuts proposed by the new Department of Government Efficiency, which is being overseen by Elon Musk. Trump repeatedly returned to the idea that judges didn’t want to allow the executive branch to uncover fraud or corruption. “And it seems hard to believe that judges want to try and stop us from looking for corruption, especially when we found hundreds of millions of dollars’ worth, much more than that, in just a short period of time,” Trump said. “We want to weed out the corruption, and it seems hard to believe that a judge could say we don’t want you to do that. So, maybe we have to look at the judges because that’s a very serious — I think it’s a very serious violation.”
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This is just irrelevant threatening of judges, imagine spending 2 pages proving you have no clue what you're reading
 
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Orangeburst said:
I gave you the reason, you just struggle
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You proved you don't understand what the lawyer is saying, the argument in court is about how narrowly-tailored the order is - not whether Elon used "fraud" or a different term on Twitter lmao. That has nothing to do with anything, he does that because he wants to
 
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NashVol11 said:
You proved you don't understand what the lawyer is saying, the argument in court is about how narrowly-tailored the order is - not whether Elon used "fraud" or a different term on Twitter lmao
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I said it gives Trump the legal authority to use fraud as a means to implement the IA. He cannot legally use waste as basis of such, as demonstrated by the Constitutional Lawyer that was cited.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
They don't have to inform anyone unless they are required to under law, if they want to provide information not required under law... its voluntary. But even if they are required to under law, a ton of the time they don't.... see Seth Rich. (one would have to use process)
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The thing that's most interesting is the when Elon tweets out some claim...not only is his DOGE team investigating it, but it also basically make thousands of not millions aware of the spending...then in an effort to discredit Elon they research and audit it as much as possible...so in essence by making these outlandish claims he is keeping the conversation going 1 and 2 getting people to look in depth into the spending that for years has been ignored...either way he is generating eyes on the waste, abuse and fraud spending of the government..and shining a big light on it....and idiots that wanna prove him wrong are helping without realizing what they are doing...because the Everyman doesn't care if he is wrong about a line item for 8 million or 8 billion..they are pissed cuz is was taxpayer money wasted

.and it's even worse when the argument is "this was found in 2023" because nothing was done and no one shared the waste..
 
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Orangeburst said:
I said it gives Trump the legal authority to use fraud as a means to implement the IA. He cannot legally use waste as basis of such, as demonstrated by the Constitutional Lawyer that was cited.
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Proving my point for me that you don't understand what you're reading, calling things "fraud" doesn't give Trump the legal authority to do anything. The court case is about an executive order that calls for a broad freeze on all spending, which everyone agrees is illegal; I assume Trump's team will revise the order to make it more narrow, but whether or not Trump/Elon use "fraud" or another term on Twitter and in public has absolutely nothing to do with this
 
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whodeycin85 said:
The thing that's most interesting is the when Elon tweets out some claim...not only is his DOGE team investigating it, but it also basically make thousands of not millions aware of the spending...then in an effort to discredit Elon they research and audit it as much as possible...so in essence by making these outlandish claims he is keeping the conversation going 1 and 2 getting people to look in depth into the spending that for years has been ignored...either way he is generating eyes on the waste, abuse and fraud spending of the government..and shining a big light on it....and idiots that wanna prove him wrong are helping without realizing what they are doing...because the Everyman doesn't care if he is wrong about a line item for 8 million or 8 billion..they are pissed cuz is was taxpayer money wasted

.and it's even worse when the argument is "this was found in 2023" because nothing was done and no one shared the waste..
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Hell yeah man, demonstrating repeatedly that he has no idea what he's doing is actually brilliant 4D chess. Masterful gambit, sir

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NashVol11 said:
Proving my point for me that you don't understand what you're reading, calling things "fraud" doesn't give Trump the legal authority to do anything. The court case is about an executive order that calls for a broad freeze on all spending, which everyone agrees is illegal; I assume Trump's team will revise the order to make it more narrow, but whether or not Trump/Elon use "fraud" or another term on Twitter and in public has absolutely nothing to do with this
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you just proved my point..The court cases are about broad spending freeze, but Trump is using the term fraud to apply to the entire freeze. The lack of specificity of the “fraud” is the reason it is being challenged, and why he uses the term fraud so extensively. If he just says ‘waste”, it has no legal standing.

It is just the loophole that he is using,
 
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Orangeburst said:
you just proved my point..The court cases are about broad spending freeze, but Trump is using the term fraud to apply to the entire freeze. The lack of specificity of the “fraud” is the reason it is being challenged, and why he uses the term fraud so extensively. If he just says ‘waste”, it has no legal standing.

It is just the loophole that he is using,
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"It" is the damn Executive Order. The court cases are about the Executive Order. The "term" in random public/Twitter statements has nothing to do with the text of the Executive Order. This should not be complicated
 
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The thing that's most interesting is the when Elon tweets out some claim...not only is his DOGE team investigating it, but it also basically make thousands of not millions aware of the spending...then in an effort to discredit Elon they research and audit it as much as possible...so in essence by making these outlandish claims he is keeping the conversation going 1 and 2 getting people to look in depth into the spending that for years has been ignored...either way he is generating eyes on the waste, abuse and fraud spending of the government..and shining a big light on it....and idiots that wanna prove him wrong are helping without realizing what they are doing...because the Everyman doesn't care if he is wrong about a line item for 8 million or 8 billion..they are pissed cuz is was taxpayer money wasted

.and it's even worse when the argument is "this was found in 2023" because nothing was done and no one shared the waste..
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the issue is he is crying wolf. he is getting people to look into him, and are seeing that reality doesn't match his claims. which makes him easier to dismiss, as well as the problem.

if he was factual and concise he could still draw attention to it, and then when people looked into it, they would see he is right. and then maybe you convince people that a change is needed.

when he goes chicken little, it just makes him seem crazy and any claims he makes loses validity.
 
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