Department of Government Efficiency - DOGE

I heard the rumors that he already fell out of favor with the admin, which is troubling because he was the one guy I kinda trusted to bring about some efficiencies. Of course, you take the rumors with a grain of salt, but would he really need to resign now to run for governor? Why? Why accept the position if he was gonna run then? I fear DOGE's going to be a **** sandwich.
Of course it is. It's a distraction. That's it. Elon gets his little pet project, has favor with Trump, and gets his spaceship money. Not a coincidence he and Bezos jumped in with piles of cash.

Efficiency would be getting rid of DOGE and Congress doing its job by utilizing the CBO and their investigative powers.
 
Of course it is. It's a distraction. That's it. Elon gets his little pet project, has favor with Trump, and gets his spaceship money. Not a coincidence he and Bezos jumped in with piles of cash.

Efficiency would be getting rid of DOGE and Congress doing its job by utilizing the CBO and their investigative powers.
Elon also got his Blackrock money for AI. That's the one that would be the most worrisome
 
no, it will be effective.

In the grand scheme of things, it wont be. It'll go after one side's partisan waste and it'll make some political hay but it wont put a dent in the debt. I'd be willing to bet that debt will be higher than 36.2T balance now by Jan 2029....

Both sides waste got us 36.2T in the hole...
 
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I doubt it, sadly. The bureaucracy will protect itself, and all we'll get is a few "wins" that look or sound good but are immaterial.
If Trump shut down many of these bureaucratic depts like Dept of education, there will not be many of them left..much easier to control the few left.
 
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In the grand scheme of things, it wont be. It'll go after one side's partisan waste and it'll make some political hay but it wont put a dent in the debt. I'd be willing to bet that debt will be higher than 36.2T balance now by Jan 2029....

Both sides waste got us 36.2T in the hole...
we shall see.
 
If Trump shut down many of these bureaucratic depts like Dept of education, there will not be many of them left..much easier to control the few left.
But he has to actually do it, and it's not as easy as it sounds. And as glad as I am that Trump won, I don't think he actually has the sack to make the serious cuts needed.
 
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But he has to do it, and it's not as easy as it sounds. And as glad as I am that Trump won, I don't think he actually has the sack to make the serious cuts needed.
he has the sack to run illegals out of the country, surely that sack is big enough to run bureaucrats out of Washington.

If these bureaucrats do not show up to work, they will get let go. Letting go of say 75k overpaid bureaucrats can save billions of dollars over a few years.
 
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he has the sack to run illegals out of the country, surely that sack is big enough to run bureaucrats out of Washington.

If these bureaucrats do not show up to work, they will get let go. Letting go of say 75k overpaid bureaucrats can save billions of dollars over a few years.
I think you are drastically overestimating the ability of the President to actually make that kind of decision, despite what power they (in theory) should have. Even his EO about RTO for feds gave, in my opinion, way too much leeway to SESs (who are often morons) to counter the direction.
 
he has the sack to run illegals out of the country, surely that sack is big enough to run bureaucrats out of Washington.

If these bureaucrats do not show up to work, they will get let go. Letting go of say 75k overpaid bureaucrats can save billions of dollars over a few years.
How many has he run out? So far all he's done from a size-of-government perspective is add an agency (the "ERS")
 
I think you are drastically overestimating the ability of the President to actually make that kind of decision, despite what power they (in theory) should have. Even his EO about RTO for feds gave, in my opinion, way too much leeway to SESs (who are often morons) to counter the direction.
I am going with the idea the majority the Reps have in Congress will go along with Trump, making it easy to do what they want.
 
I am going with the idea the majority the Reps have in Congress will go along with Trump, making it easy to do what they want.

Trump has both houses and the judiciary. He has the Reconciliation process for the budget.

The question is does he and the Rs have the will for significant structural changes. This is where I am really skeptical (Do you really think you'll get enough Rs to piss off defense lobbyists?)

The easiest and most political expedient path is partisan red meat for the base. That's what DOGE will end up doing. The 36T debt will be 40T+ in 4 yrs....
 
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You might not understand it, but they don’t go straight up. Elon has put up a few of them. Part of his comments even made a reference to something like humanity moving forward. Something often in the space expiration dialogue.

But you think he’s trying to emulate Adolph? 😂😂😂😂😂
Rockets do not get launched like that and no one else, including Elon, has been dumb enough to say it was a rocket.

This is an instant board classic, you should have just pretended you were joking😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
 

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