Department of Government Efficiency - DOGE

Not sure how anyone could be in favor of what doge is being allowed to do at treasury. Is Bessent actually doing anything or does an unelected, big tech billionaire just get access to all the sensitive data he wants?

Still don't believe it's legal for doge to be allowed to stop payment on congressional approved money
 
Well, let's see:

Gestapo:

- secret police
- reported to government leaders
- used teams to investigate
- The power of the Gestapo was used to focus upon political opponents, ideological dissenters (clergy and religious organizations), career criminals, the Sinti and Roma population, handicapped persons, homosexuals, and, above all, the Jews.


DOGE

- unofficial, unelected, unvetted
- reports to Trump administration
- Exec order established DOGE "teams"
- taking action against government agencies, funding and grants, to ensure they are consistent and aligned with Trump's policies



THOSE WHO CANNOT REMEMBER THE PAST ARE CONDEMNED TO REPEAT IT.
You just described the modern democratic party to a T.
 
Showing up at government offices and demanding entry, with no notice. Demanding to see processes and threatening to fire those who do not cooperate.
What are they hiding? If they have nothing to hide why are they resisting having our tax dollars accounted for. They don't want the public to know what they've been up to.
 
Not sure how anyone could be in favor of what doge is being allowed to do at treasury. Is Bessent actually doing anything or does an unelected, big tech billionaire just get access to all the sensitive data he wants?

Still don't believe it's legal for doge to be allowed to stop payment on congressional approved money
Long answer: the same way Hillary Clinton was able to propose Hillarycare back in the early 90’s( that is, all she did was head an advisory committee to the president.

Musk can’t actually DO anything other than make executive recommendations, but the president has the authority to implement many of those recommendations.

Let’s face it, there are thousands of “unelected bureaucrats,” who make policy decisions every day that affect our lives. (Anyone else remember voting for Federal Reserve Chair?). Musk is just one more.


Short answer: We have abdicated far too much legislative authority to the executive branch and yet again, we deal with the consequences.
 
Federal prosecution of Trump was the greatest act of patriotism since we got Bin Laden. Knowing the lies that would be told. The threats. The irrational false claims of fact that would come.... the prosecutors went forward and they were right to do so.
You mean like the Russian hoax, the dossier, the pee tapes? Or do you mean the government suppression of free speech, the Biden laptop, the documents in the back of the corvette, or 10% for the big guy? Or maybe it was the preemptive pardons of people not under investigation?
 
Long answer: the same way Hillary Clinton was able to propose Hillarycare back in the early 90’s( that is, all she did was head an advisory committee to the president.

Musk can’t actually DO anything other than make executive recommendations, but the president has the authority to implement many of those recommendations.

Let’s face it, there are thousands of “unelected bureaucrats,” who make policy decisions every day that affect our lives. (Anyone else remember voting for Federal Reserve Chair?). Musk is just one more.


Short answer: We have abdicated far too much legislative authority to the executive branch and yet again, we deal with the consequences.
But, but Hillary? Using the way back machine today. Thought we heard Trump was different

Except things have been shut down according to Musk. He has claimed to have or will soon stop payments that are approved by Congress. The group also now has access to sensitive data of millions of Americans. They're targeting the wrong place and none of them unstable the systems well enough to know it

Hopefully a judge somewhere is awake this morning or maybe sec treas will grow a set
 
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But, but Hillary? Using the way back machine today. Thought we heard Trump was different

Except things have been shut down according to Musk. He has claimed to have or will soon stop payments that are approved by Congress. The group also now has access to sensitive data of millions of Americans. They're targeting the wrong place and none of them unstable the systems well enough to know it

Hopefully a judge somewhere is awake this morning or maybe sec treas will grow a set
Dang, son, there is no “but, but” going on. Did you not read my last paragraph? I am AGREEING with you! We have given too much power to people with too little accountability.

My point re: Hillary was to show it has been happening a LONG time. Really want me to get started? When was the last time the United States declared war? Talk about outsourcing constitutional obligations….

Maybe be a little less reflexive and a bit more contemplative next time…
 
Federal prosecution of Trump was the greatest act of patriotism since we got Bin Laden. Knowing the lies that would be told. The threats. The irrational false claims of fact that would come.... the prosecutors went forward and they were right to do so.
You are either trolling or have seemingly lost your mind over Trump.
 
Not sure how anyone could be in favor of what doge is being allowed to do at treasury. Is Bessent actually doing anything or does an unelected, big tech billionaire just get access to all the sensitive data he wants?

Still don't believe it's legal for doge to be allowed to stop payment on congressional approved money

I can't see how it's legal either, hopefully there will be lawsuits and discovery.
 
Not sure how anyone could be in favor of what doge is being allowed to do at treasury. Is Bessent actually doing anything or does an unelected, big tech billionaire just get access to all the sensitive data he wants?

Still don't believe it's legal for doge to be allowed to stop payment on congressional approved money

You mean you’re not for something?
 
Not sure how anyone could be in favor of what doge is being allowed to do at treasury. Is Bessent actually doing anything or does an unelected, big tech billionaire just get access to all the sensitive data he wants?

Still don't believe it's legal for doge to be allowed to stop payment on congressional approved money
Just curious, but why all of a sudden does it bother you that unelected people are making federal government decisions? At least we know what Musk is doing. I find that rather refreshing as opposed to those assholes that were making decisions in the shadows. For example: who was really making decisions during Puddinhead's reign?
 
Just curious, but why all of a sudden does it bother you that unelected people are making federal government decisions? At least we know what Musk is doing. I find that rather refreshing as opposed to those assholes that were making decisions in the shadows. For example: who was really making decisions during Puddinhead's reign?
What do you mean "all of a sudden"? Can you point out where I was ever in favor?

Musk is taking over sensitive data for tens of millions of Americans. He's cutting off funds for congressionally approved funding. There's no way this is legal. When did you stop caring about the rule of law? How is that in any way refreshing?
 
Federal prosecution of Trump was the greatest act of patriotism since we got Bin Laden. Knowing the lies that would be told. The threats. The irrational false claims of fact that would come.... the prosecutors went forward and they were right to do so.
I think you mean FAILED Federal Prosecution.

Curious. Yall ever grow tired of Trump spanking dat azz!!!?


And by your logic, another great act of American patriotism was ousting Joe once the polls showed Trump was completely dominating him after Joe was exposed as completely senile during the debate. Then a puppet candidate was installed and the American media attempted to gaslight the American people into thinking that this far left lunatic was a centrist and an inspirational figure. Now that’s patriotic!!! Whatever it takes, right!
 
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What are they hiding? If they have nothing to hide why are they resisting having our tax dollars accounted for. They don't want the public to know what they've been up to.
I think a lot of people are looking at this like when the police basically say "We have investigated ourselves and found ourselves guilty of no wrongdoing.".

Having said the above I'm not convinced this is, or at least how it's being carried out at the moment, the best way to go about it or even if it's actually legal.
 
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Well, let's see:

Gestapo:

- secret police
- reported to government leaders
- used teams to investigate
- The power of the Gestapo was used to focus upon political opponents, ideological dissenters (clergy and religious organizations), career criminals, the Sinti and Roma population, handicapped persons, homosexuals, and, above all, the Jews.


DOGE

- unofficial, unelected, unvetted
- reports to Trump administration
- Exec order established DOGE "teams"
- taking action against government agencies, funding and grants, to ensure they are consistent and aligned with Trump's policies



THOSE WHO CANNOT REMEMBER THE PAST ARE CONDEMNED TO REPEAT IT.
so have you completely moved from Russian agent to Nazi
 
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I am independent and have voted for perhaps a dozen Republicans in the last two cycles.

But being independent doesn't mean I've left rationality and common sense behind. Trump is a conman. He has no idea what he's doing and just mutters the last thing someone who complimented him said that sounded kind of cool to him. Being an independent does not change how utterly unqualified Trump is to be President.
So you're a natural blonde then?
 
we're giving a junkie foreigner who wouldn't be able to get security clearances to work for Norfolk ****in southern access to restricted materials all over the federal government
All Musk has to do is say "we slashed $17B today, it's true because I said so" and his fans will cheer any breach of classified info
 
But, but Hillary? Using the way back machine today. Thought we heard Trump was different

Except things have been shut down according to Musk. He has claimed to have or will soon stop payments that are approved by Congress. The group also now has access to sensitive data of millions of Americans. They're targeting the wrong place and none of them unstable the systems well enough to know it

Hopefully a judge somewhere is awake this morning or maybe sec treas will grow a set
Alot of those erroneus payments fo ridiculous studies should be stopped.
 

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