Department of Government Efficiency - DOGE

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Grand Vol said:
I don't know of anyone else in the uni party that would have had the stones to create such a thing.

Only Trump could have pulled this off.

But I think the media attention is certainly warranted. If this was done behind closed doors and without public knowledge/input, you wouldn't even have seen a fraction of what's been stopped.

To me, this was and is the only way it could have been pulled off. Remember the WaPo talking about "democracy dies in darkness." Yeah, same thing here.
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I also appreciate the approach. Slashing .gov spending in any appreciable fashion is going to result in the slaughter of some sacred cows. We need a sociopathic billionaire who doesn't feel pain, empathy or remorse to wield the blade.
 
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ButchPlz said:
If you mean the next day, then I'd prefer that, because then we could actually blame him for it.

No, instead he always sends it at 6 or 7 PM the evening before, so that we all have to crush through the report after normal work hours (for no reason whatsoever).
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That's annoying. When you raise it with him he just doesn't care? (Asking purely out of curiosity, not trying to set up some gotcha)
 
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NashVol11 said:
That's annoying. When you raise it with him he just doesn't care? (Asking purely out of curiosity, not trying to set up some gotcha)
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Because we've raised it with him and his boss several times and it doesn't change. The average government employee thinks of their job, time, and convenience, no matter what.
 
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EXCLUSIVE: Elon Musk's Chief Nerd celebrates DOGE appointment with Elaborate $1,000 Troll Scam​


One of Elon Musk's nerd army is trolling his new fans by charging $1,000 to read a manifesto about why he joined DOGE - only to find the post is blank.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Elon Musk chief nerd's elaborate $1,000 troll scam

Gavin Kliger, 25, is one of six baby-faced boys with little-to-no government experience handpicked by Elon Musk to sow havoc in the civil service through DOGE, and was quick to cash in on his notoriety.
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ButchPlz said:
Because we've raised it with him and his boss several times and it doesn't change. The average government employee thinks of their job, time, and convenience, no matter what.
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Send him an email asking “Should I raise this issue with DOGE?” Would love hear what happens.
 
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LouderVol said:
because its not enough for them to just announce we are cutting X. its all been "we are wasting X million dollars on this looney left idea of Y".
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OK. So how do you NOT politicize it? By just saying that we are eliminating Y? Problem there is that the American public has the collective memory of a sand flea and wouldn't know who it was that brought us such looney ideas. They need to be reminded often.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
OK. So how do you NOT politicize it? By just saying that we are eliminating Y? Problem there is that the American public has the collective memory of a sand flea and wouldn't know who it was that brought us such looney ideas. They need to be reminded often.
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Yeah I want it politicized and often! America needs to know how radical the leftist in this country are. And then they need to bury the modern Democrat party by abandoning them in favor of a new Democrat party that doesn’t hate our country so much they feel the need to fundamentally transform it.
 
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NashVol11 said:
I mean, for people with any level of consistency it sucks either way, but a bunch of people who complained about Soros now cheer on Elon being much more involved. You essentially just admitted you're one of them
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Globally Soros has been much more influential than Musk......... Hell he has a 30+year head start and has bought (to varying degrees) leaders, both elected and appointed around the world including the US. This is akin to focusing on the tick and calling it corrupt while ignoring the dog it's attached to.

I'm not sure I buy any of this but it appears the Soros/globalists agenda may be what Trump and his appointee Elon are trying to dismantle.

Again I'm not buying any of it yet, I need actual receipts and that will take months and years of investigation I would imagine. If there's any real meat on the bones we should start to develop some idea soon though right?

Until then I'm an open minded skeptic.
 
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vols4sure said:
If Soros dedicated himself to cutting wasteful government spending and exposing fraudulent USAID, we would be cheering on Soros as well. You are being intentionally oblivious to why people are excited about what Elon and Doge are doing.
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This is true, people do not trust the government........ Trump is a part of that now though. So best bet is to not get too excited and wait to make sure this isn't some dog and pony show.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:

EXCLUSIVE: Elon Musk's Chief Nerd celebrates DOGE appointment with Elaborate $1,000 Troll Scam​


One of Elon Musk's nerd army is trolling his new fans by charging $1,000 to read a manifesto about why he joined DOGE - only to find the post is blank.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Elon Musk chief nerd's elaborate $1,000 troll scam

Gavin Kliger, 25, is one of six baby-faced boys with little-to-no government experience handpicked by Elon Musk to sow havoc in the civil service through DOGE, and was quick to cash in on his notoriety.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
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Who in their right mind would pay $10 much less $1000 to read anything? That being said, if he really did this he is a complete *******.
 
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Ritzwatch said:
Yes. There is real harm being done to real people. For example, a friend of mine has a son battling brain cancer. He was just approved for an experimental treatment at a health center with government funding contracts in place. When Trump issued an EO last week which touched on medical research, communication with the care team impacted and that child's plan of care was thrown into disarray.

One of the problems is that all of the programs that almost most Americans find "worthy" is co-mingled with the programs that are, shall we say "questionable." For instance, how does one unpack the true humanitarian aid provided by USAID (say, Earthquake relief operations in Turkey) from the social engineering programs (Sesame Street in Iraq, anyone?)

Marco Rubio says that preliminary inquiries were made into USAID programs so the Admin could determine how to proceed. He also says those inquiries were stonewalled. That, in turn, led to the complete disruption of ALL programs because ALL funding was halted in order to stop fraud/programs not supported by this Admin.

Assuming Rubio was correct, this seems to be an instance of entrenched bureaucracy thinking this Administration was more of the same, when it is not. Some of the hurt being experienced may have been avoided but for agency lack of cooperation with the Administration. As much as I hope this Admin will cut wasteful spending, I hope we can at least get back to quickly funding things that the vast majority of Americans think are worthy of funding.
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Well said.
 
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This is crazy, if these "leaks" are true this is discussion engineering on a global scale with many "reputable" companies and implies them knowing engagement. Many wealthy.... Powerful people are going to be upset they have been exposed.

Not to mention the CIA involvement implied as well. If true how long do we think Trump really lasts?

Again if true this is great for Americans to know but at the same time this diminishes our standing among allies and partners as they become collateral damage no?
 
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InVOLuntary said:
The problem is politization = saying what you found. If they don't say what they found, they get accused of doing it under a cloak of secrecy. It's a no win.
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...and then the liberal criticisms might actually stick. I see how that would be desirable for a few of the posters here.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
OK. So how do you NOT politicize it? By just saying that we are eliminating Y? Problem there is that the American public has the collective memory of a sand flea and wouldn't know who it was that brought us such looney ideas. They need to be reminded often.
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lol tracking that stuff down is just a waste of time. both sides are set in their way, neither side is going to change their mind on something just because they found out this program started under President Biden vs President Trump.

I thought DOGE was about efficiency? You are making it about revenge or some political goal.
 
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