Derek Chauvin trial

[clarksvol00]

How many trials they see are filmed and cause a national riot? I'd say very few. The whole world saw GF die. A 9 year old's testimony isn't going to add evidentiary value. PERIOD!

We don't have any idea if these jurors watched that video. If a "national riot" is a means to subvert the judicial process, we might as well give up now. If the 9 year old saw it, the 9 year old can say what he saw.

 

[Tyler Durden]

Blah blah blah ..... comply w/police demands & you won't end up dead. GF killed himself by resisting & fighting.

Obey. Or else.

 

[clarksvol00]

Blah blah blah ..... comply w/the police & you won't end up dead.

That may or may not be true, but it doesn't automatically mean it's legal to kill the offender. This is not 'Nam there are rules.

 

[allvol123]

Obey. Or else.

You may not like that advice, I may not like it, but it is undoubtedly the correct and only choice that should be made in the moment.

There are plenty of ways and avenues to protest the issue at another date.

 

[Boca Vol]

We don't have any idea if these jurors watched that video. If a "national riot" is a means to subvert the judicial process, we might as well give up now. If the 9 year old saw it, the 9 year old can say what he saw.

Seriously!! Do you honestly think any member of that jury has no idea who GF was and the chaos that ensued?

Regarding the 9 year old...what did his testimony add?

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Obey. Or else.

If you like being dead & buried 6 feet down .... yes, you obey the law. Didn't yo mama teach you that?

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

That may or may not be true, but it doesn't automatically mean it's legal to kill the offender. This is not 'Nam there are rules.

You take your complaints to court .... not by resisting & fighting w/the police on the spot.
The results are not going to be in your favor by resisting the police commands. They are taught to take you down when you resist them. Comply & live to fight in court.

 

[clarksvol00]

You take your complaints to court .... not by resisting & fighting w/the police on the spot.
The results are not going to be in your favor by resisting the police commands.

Try that in the 2A thread.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Obey. Or else.

Or at the very least don’t commit violent crimes

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Try that in the 2A thread.

Right now, I'm talking here on this subject. I can't help it if you don't understand simple logic to obey police.

 

[clarksvol00]

Seriously!! Do you honestly think any member of that jury has no idea who GF was and the chaos that ensued?

Regarding the 9 year old...what did his testimony add?

I feel if you've got a murder charge that made it past the grand jury, you can present any witness to alleged murder that you want, and the defense can impeach that testimony with anything they want.

 

[clarksvol00]

Right now, I'm talking here on this subject. I can't help it if you don't understand simple logic to obey police.

I'm pulling a whatabout that has become fairly popular recently, but noncompliance is not automatically a constitutional excuse for the extra judicial deprivation of life if Derek Chauvin's actions resulted in the death of George Floyd.

 

[Boca Vol]

I feel if you've got a murder charge that made it past the grand jury, you can present any witness to alleged murder that you want, and the defense can impeach that testimony with anything they want.

And that's why any judge worth an ish can corral an over-zealous prosecutor.

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

You take your complaints to court .... not by resisting & fighting w/the police on the spot.
The results are not going to be in your favor by resisting the police commands. They are taught to take you down when you resist them. Comply & live to fight in court.

Another one chiming in who doesn't know the facts. GF definitely did not resist "on the spot"

 

[Boca Vol]

Another one chiming in who doesn't know the facts. GF definitely did not resist "on the spot"

Then why didn't he sit in the Police Explorer? Even his hood-rats in the Mercedes were questioning his moves.

 

[clarksvol00]

And that's why any judge worth an ish can corral an over-zealous prosecutor.

(Assuming youre right in these evidentiary rules) On the flip side, the judge can allow any number of witnesses that say the defendant didn't do it. I'm all for every witness coming forward. "Truth will out," as they say.

 

[Boca Vol]

(Assuming youre right in these evidentiary rules) On the flip side, the judge can allow any number of witnesses that say the defendant didn't do it. I'm all for every witness coming forward. "Truth will out," as they say.

1. My evidentiary rules came from the American Bar Association. Assume all you want.

2. The Defense doesn't have to prove innocence. They only have to prove reasonable doubt.

 

[clarksvol00]

1. My evidentiary rules came from the American Bar Association. Assume all you want.

2. The Defense doesn't have to prove innocence. They only have to prove reasonable doubt.

1) Your evidentiary quote (by the way, MN makes their own rules not the ABA) applied to relevance, not redundancy. 2) The defense has the same right to present their case as the prosecution.

 

[Boca Vol]

1) Your evidentiary quote (by the way, MN makes their own rules not the ABA) applied to relevance, not redundancy. 2) The defense has the same right to present their case as the prosecution.

I previously misspoke. Technically, the defense doesn't have to prove anything. It's all on the prosecution to prove "beyond a reasonable doubt".

 

[CagleMtnVol]

'Maxine Waters may have handed defense grounds for appeal and the turning over of this trial': Derek Chauvin trial judge blasts 'abhorrent' Democrat for calling for riots if no conviction

• Derek Chauvin's defense attorney Eric Nelson called for a mistrial after the jury retired on Monday
• 'Now that we have US representatives threatening acts of violence in relation to this trial it’s frankly mind-blowing,' Nelson said
• Judge Peter Cahill replied: 'I grant you Congresswoman Waters may have handed you grounds for appeal and the turning over of this trial'

Derek Chauvin trial judge blasts 'abhorrent' Rep Maxine Waters | Daily Mail Online

Is that James Brown?

 

[Carp]

You take your complaints to court .... not by resisting & fighting w/the police on the spot.
The results are not going to be in your favor by resisting the police commands. They are taught to take you down when you resist them. Comply & live to fight in court.

That's irrelevant. Cops have to obey the
law as well. Wearing a badge spent absolve you from obeying the law.

 

[clarksvol00]

Technically, the defense doesn't have to prove anything. It's all on the prosecution to prove "beyond a reasonable doubt".

I didn't say the defense has to prove anything.

 

[bamawriter]

Seriously!! Do you honestly think any member of that jury has no idea who GF was and the chaos that ensued?

Regarding the 9 year old...what did his testimony add?

If I'm a DA, I'm putting on every single witness to the alleged crime. If one of them is 9 years old, so be it.

 

[bamawriter]

Is that James Brown?

Unfortunately, James Brown passed away years ago. I believe that his family donated his body to science so that his parts could be used to repair other sex machines.

 

[volinbham]

It's nuts that there is legitimate fear that if a single trial outcome doesn't go perfectly there will be widespread violence and destruction.

It's even more nuts that a big chunk of the country, 1/2 of our leaders and almost all of our media will excuse the violence and destruction.