Developing story on Mel Tucker

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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
The measure, I'd guess, is further embarrassment to the university + legal fees vs money to go away.

I thought UT would pay Pruitt some money. I was wrong. I thought Pruitt knew and would divulge where other bodies were buried but he apparently had no cards to play.

It all depends on what Mel Tucker knows and is willing to talk about concerning Michigan State. If he doesn't have any cards to play, I'm not sure why they'd pay him too much.
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Their risk is Mel suing and winning a big judgment. MSU has a mess on their hands
 
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stolitonic said:
Brother, as I said earlier-the man was making $9.5 million a year. He is no doubt the highest paid employee at MichSt and probably the second highest paid state employee in Michigan.

A key component of his job is managing the football program. Everything about it in the end falls on Tuckers shoulders. Players he recruits, scheme he wants to run, etc etc, all the way down to who gets to speak to the team.

The simple fact that he was in a position of power over her in that he held future paid speaking gigs for the school in his hands is enough to get him crucified in court

I dunno if you have been living under a rock for the last 30 years or have simply never been a people manager, but that kind of thing just doesn't fly anymore.

Like I said, I was given that talk as a young lad in like 1996 as a stupid college kid working a part time job. After working there two months,
- I was basically administering the guys backroom business. Ordering, inventory, accounting, etc. Dude would not leave if the business was open and I was not there. Managers knew never to even bother me or ask what I was doing. Inevitably, I realized I deserved just a bit more money than I was getting so had a talk. Very simply-you want more money and an official title-i had to stop banging every female cashier he hired.

Hell, even after I graduated and got a "real" job-I have lost count of the number of guys I worked with who have screwed their careers over by doing something similar. Luckily, I was smart enough to avoid fraternization with employees-they were not. Employee invited me to a wedding, baby shower, etc etc they got a gift card but I "couldn't make it".

Gonna wager somebody had that talk with Tucker somewhere along the line.


Do I think the accuser probably led him on a bit-sure. Does that really change anything-nope.
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Ok, nice speech.
 
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GrayWaterCanine said:
I'm not sure he ever should have signed anything saying he could be fired for any conduct that brings ridicule to the university. That is pretty broad.
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I'm sure that is defined somewhere, as I said earlier MIST is throwing the kitchen sink at his termination to reduce what they will end up paying him.
 
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Sea Ray said:
Their risk is Mel suing and winning a big judgment. MSU has a mess on their hands
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We may disagree but I'm pretty sure they're not worried he'll sue and win just on the phone shenanigans, but he could cost them in embarrassment and legal fees depending on what he can and will share about the athletic program.

Obviously, if this were to get juicy and Michigan State was actively emailing among admins searching for a way or plotting for a way to get out of the contract, get me an extra large popcorn, some Rollos, and a giant Dr Pepper because this movie is going to be good.
 
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wmcovol said:
a 51 yr old man having to admit whacking off while on the phone with a sexual assualt victim doesnt appear to be a strong defense
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The thing that makes Michigan State look worse is rehiring Mark Dantonio as part of the replacement package for Tucker. That's a guy who presided over the football portion of the free-range sexual-assault era at MSU. Since they "retired" Dantonio with a multimillion dollar golden parachute as a solution that time, and now have rehired him, I think this thing may one day pivot into a comparison of their relative treatments. 🍿 Unless they're planning on whacking Dantonio as a disgrace once they've used him to clean up this mess. On thing for sure, it looks like they are very adverse to having a non-insider anywhere near this stink pile.
 
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Sea Ray said:
Their risk is Mel suing and winning a big judgment. MSU has a mess on their hands
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The simplest thing for Mich St to do would be write a ten million $ check to Tucker and tell him to go away. If Tucker was a smart man (and I have my doubts) he would take it and run.

The problem is that due to past issues, MichSt can't do that.

The "risk" is not that great for the Spartans in Court honestly. If the call was recorded in any way-and I'm assuming it was, Tuckers only hope would be to get a stacked jury somehow lol.

As things are, Tucker is now demanding a "medical leave" of a few months to deal with a very serious "health issue". This is what is known in professional circles as the "death bubbles". Basically a last gasp attempt when someone knows they're screwed and about to lose their job


Mel apparently didn't read the rules very closely though. If he had done that two weeks ago then the Spartans legally would have no choice but to grant it. Tucker has already been suspended without pay though. Once that happens, medical leave does not have to be granted.
 
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Sea Ray said:
Mel's pay is nearly $800K/mo. Any months he can finagle into a paycheck behooves him
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That's the problem. He did that move 2 weeks ago and he could have made an extra few million.

A bit late now. Once you are suspended without pay-it's over
 
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#287
Well well well. It seems the idiot Mel Tucker may have been not just a victim of his own poor judgement, but also his accuser. It is seems like a growing trend of women trying to extort rich athlete types. Fortunately, idiot Tucker has a litany of text messages between himself and his accuser. This doesn't disqualify him from being an idiot; however, the new evidence clearly shows his accuser was out for dough. It is now clear that this was a consensual relationship. I wonder what Trevor Bauer thinks about that.

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Mel Tucker's Lawyer Claims Hundreds of Text Messages From Brenda Tracy Show Coach Was Wrongly Fired

Michigan State ousted football head coach Mel Tucker over claims made by Brenda Tracy, alleging inappropriate conversations over the phone, including 'phone sex.' Hundreds of new
www.outkick.com www.outkick.com
 
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Tman44 said:
Well well well. It seems the idiot Mel Tucker may have been not just a victim of his own poor judgement, but also his accuser. It is seems like a growing trend of women trying to extort rich athlete types. Fortunately, idiot Tucker has a litany of text messages between himself and his accuser. This doesn't disqualify him from being an idiot; however, the new evidence clearly shows his accuser was out for dough. It is now clear that this was a consensual relationship. I wonder what Trevor Bauer thinks about that.

www.outkick.com

Mel Tucker's Lawyer Claims Hundreds of Text Messages From Brenda Tracy Show Coach Was Wrongly Fired

Michigan State ousted football head coach Mel Tucker over claims made by Brenda Tracy, alleging inappropriate conversations over the phone, including 'phone sex.' Hundreds of new
www.outkick.com www.outkick.com
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Where's Jerry Springer when you need him?
 
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dobre_shunka said:
Meanwhile the official MSU NIL collective has voided all but 4 deals with current football players.

Why Spartan Dawgs 4 Life voided Michigan State football players' NIL contracts

"a driving reason behind the decision to cancel the contracts is a shortage of funds. In a statement released late Friday night, SD4L said it had secured under 100 subscriptions"
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Cancelled most of the football contracts for "lack of funds" and none of the basketball contracts? Also, right after game 5 so redshirts couldn't be claimed?

Nasty look. Who's going to advise a kid to look at Michigan State no matter what they offer?

The portal poaching should be massive.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Cancelled most of the football contracts for "lack of funds" and none of the basketball contracts? Also, right after game 5 so redshirts couldn't be claimed?

Nasty look. Who's going to advise a kid to look at Michigan State no matter what they offer?

The portal poaching should be massive.
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Geez ... How do they recruit anybody after this?
 
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Tman44 said:
Well well well. It seems the idiot Mel Tucker may have been not just a victim of his own poor judgement, but also his accuser. It is seems like a growing trend of women trying to extort rich athlete types. Fortunately, idiot Tucker has a litany of text messages between himself and his accuser. This doesn't disqualify him from being an idiot; however, the new evidence clearly shows his accuser was out for dough. It is now clear that this was a consensual relationship. I wonder what Trevor Bauer thinks about that.

www.outkick.com

Mel Tucker's Lawyer Claims Hundreds of Text Messages From Brenda Tracy Show Coach Was Wrongly Fired

Michigan State ousted football head coach Mel Tucker over claims made by Brenda Tracy, alleging inappropriate conversations over the phone, including 'phone sex.' Hundreds of new
www.outkick.com www.outkick.com
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Probably hoping the two other women who have accused him of assault and rape, who have not perused him financially, don't come back out
 
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Tman44 said:
Well well well. It seems the idiot Mel Tucker may have been not just a victim of his own poor judgement, but also his accuser. It is seems like a growing trend of women trying to extort rich athlete types. Fortunately, idiot Tucker has a litany of text messages between himself and his accuser. This doesn't disqualify him from being an idiot; however, the new evidence clearly shows his accuser was out for dough. It is now clear that this was a consensual relationship. I wonder what Trevor Bauer thinks about that.

www.outkick.com

Mel Tucker's Lawyer Claims Hundreds of Text Messages From Brenda Tracy Show Coach Was Wrongly Fired

Michigan State ousted football head coach Mel Tucker over claims made by Brenda Tracy, alleging inappropriate conversations over the phone, including 'phone sex.' Hundreds of new
www.outkick.com www.outkick.com
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Ah yes, the defense attorney weighs in pre-trial.
 
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butchna said:
All they have to prove is that he put himself in a situation that embarrassed the university. Whether SHE consented or not.
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I'm sure Mel Tucker knows he's not winning the lawsuit but his strategy is to pull out as much embarrassing content as he can so Michigan State just wants the case to stop and settles with him for a few million.

It must be awful to decide "screw it, I'll look like a catfished moron but that's my best defense."
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
I'm sure Mel Tucker knows he's not winning the lawsuit but his strategy is to pull out as much embarrassing content as he can so Michigan State just wants the case to stop and settles with him for a few million.

It must be awful to decide "screw it, I'll look like a catfished moron but that's my best defense."
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I’m not against them getting raked. They kept throwing money at a bad program. I remember a social media exchange with a Spartan fan when UT was fighting the Title IX lawsuit…beyond condescending. The whole time the Larry Nassar horror was breaking dating back to forever…500+ VICTIMS!
 
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butchna said:
I’m not against them getting raked. They kept throwing money at a bad program. I remember a social media exchange with a Spartan fan when UT was fighting the Title IX lawsuit…beyond condescending. The whole time the Larry Nassar horror was breaking dating back to forever…500+ VICTIMS!
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Yeah, I don’t really feel sorry for Tucker, the university or the accuser in this situation.
 
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butchna said:
I’m not against them getting raked. They kept throwing money at a bad program. I remember a social media exchange with a Spartan fan when UT was fighting the Title IX lawsuit…beyond condescending. The whole time the Larry Nassar horror was breaking dating back to forever…500+ VICTIMS!
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I've no sympathy Michigan State especially with the choice to basically cancel all the football NIL contracts. That's going to lead to a mass exodus and very poor recruiting. The NIL cancellation makes me think they're trying to "burn it down."

Let it burn. Maybe they'll complete Act III of this tragi-comedy by offering Mel Tucker money to Deion to "rescue" the program. 🤡😂🙄
 
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