Diamond Deshields

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Volube, I haven't a clue about Jackson offensive abilities...

I've always been partial to a player that knew how to put the ball through the iron hoop myself. You can't win if you can't score more than your opponent...

I was talking with a friend of mine this very evening that is a basketball referee...He said even they get caught up with a person that can shoot the ball well, while the defensive specialist is often whistled against frequently.

I know that is against what we may have hoped, but it does make sense. Maybe that is why Geno doesn't recruit defensive specialist. The human element is often not taken into consideration. It may be worth 6 points alone.
 
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She doesn't have much of a three point shot 28 percent in high school. She made 53 percent of her two point tries. I suspect a lot were layups off of steals. She was very good at swiping the ball and suspect she was one of the better athletes on the floor and could beat defenders to the basket.
She want help us much as a perimeter shooter. I think she will see a few minutes a game as a freshman in relief of either Carter or Deshields. She will be challenging for the same minutes that Middleton will be vying for so one of the two might sit the pine quite a bit later in the season.
 
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GameTime said:
Volube, I haven't a clue about Jackson offensive abilities...

I've always been partial to a player that knew how to put the ball through the iron hoop myself. You can't win if you can't score more than your opponent...

I was talking with a friend of mine this very evening that is a basketball referee...He said even they get caught up with a person that can shoot the ball well, while the defensive specialist is often whistled against frequently.

I know that is against what we may have hoped, but it does make sense. Maybe that is why Geno doesn't recruit defensive specialist. The human element is often not taken into consideration. It may be worth 6 points alone.
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If referees are whistling against "defensive specialists" frequently, then one of two things is occurring. Either "defensive specialist" is a misnomer, or refereeing is bad.
 
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Putbacks, I just quoted what he told me...He's been a ref for close to 15 years...He hasn't ever done any of our games...

He told me a ref can be mesmerized by a high scorer, and especially a high scoring team, just like the fans can...Ever notice how UConn gets fewer fouls than most. Is it coaching, who knows...

On TV I see them do the same stupid thing we do and we get called for it and they often don't. I don't want a UConn debate it was just an example of a team "possibly or player" mesmerizing an official.

There is something about that ball going through the net that we all like, refs too.
 
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We need legit scorers--people who can put the ball in the basket in big spots in big games. We don't have them and haven't had them in a while. We have a lot of players who get tight under pressure and can't shoot. Twenty-plus years ago, you could go along way by being focused on defense. That is NOT true anymore and hasn't been true for more than a decade. This is why UConn has been ascendent and why UT has been in decline. UConn has scorers and an excellent team offense, featuring great passing--we've got Warlick who is still chasing defensive players who can't score. Why did we lose to Maryland last year in the elite 8? Because we couldn't score. Our coaches have been pretty slow on the uptake on this one: PS didn't get that her teams needed to be better offensively and Warlick doesn't get it either.
 
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GameTime said:
Putbacks, I just quoted what he told me...He's been a ref for close to 15 years...He hasn't ever done any of our games...

He told me a ref can be mesmerized by a high scorer, and especially a high scoring team, just like the fans can...Ever notice how UConn gets fewer fouls than most. Is it coaching, who knows...

On TV I see them do the same stupid thing we do and we get called for it and they often don't. I don't want a UConn debate it was just an example of a team "possibly or player" mesmerizing an official.

There is something about that ball going through the net that we all like, refs too.
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Pretty much every rule change that has been made in recent years has been done so for the purpose of trying to increase scoring. That attitude has to filter down to the refs at some point.

I still think the officiating is so bad in the SEC that we are at an extreme disadvantage when it comes to tournament play. UConn gets exactly the officiating they expect and their games are never rugby scrums. That favors them greatly. They can build a team knowing and never have to adjust their style of play due to the refs.

In the SEC you have to see what the refs feel like on a given night to determine what style you will play. You spend most of the season throwing haymakers in the post then are expected to play by the rules in the tournament. That is a huge adjustment to make.
 
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GameTime said:
Putbacks, I just quoted what he told me...He's been a ref for close to 15 years...He hasn't ever done any of our games...

He told me a ref can be mesmerized by a high scorer, and especially a high scoring team, just like the fans can...Ever notice how UConn gets fewer fouls than most. Is it coaching, who knows...

On TV I see them do the same stupid thing we do and we get called for it and they often don't. I don't want a UConn debate it was just an example of a team "possibly or player" mesmerizing an official.

There is something about that ball going through the net that we all like, refs too.
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I understand what you are saying.

Personally, I like defensive stops, rejections, five second calls, deflections, dives taken, charges taken, and rebounds.

I like seeing the ball go through the net on putbacks and off assisted plays.

IMO if a referee is offensively biased, he/she needs to be in the seats beside me spectating--even in this day and time (when offense is the eye candy for many). And I pity the scrappy, less-talented overachievers whose fate rests in the moods of the referees.

And I admire someone who has devoted 15 years to refereeing--providing they are doing it uncompromisingly fairly and are equally loyal to defensive and offensive efforts. It is a thankless vocation (or avocation for some). Referees are never winners. At least coaches win sometimes. However, unlike referees, coaches have to take the losses to bed with them. Once the buzzer sounds, the refs get to leave it all on the court.
 
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The biggest problem with refereeing basketball games is that there is a lot of contact, especially inside, and, except for obvious fouls like hacking somebody on a shot or excessive physical contact, there is no knowing what any one official will call as a foul. Officiating, to a large degree, is subjective. What one official calls as a foul, another won't. Some are pickier than others.

My biggest beef with basketball officiating is the CHARGE call--which officials have been getting wrong for, oh, 40 or more years. There is this bizarre officiating tradition in basketball: If someone with the basketball drives to the basket, and a defender near that player flops to the floor, you call a charge. And about 75 percent of the time, if not more, it's not a charge--it's a block by the defender. Defenders don't establish position--they lean into the offensive player, they jump in front of the player driving to the basket, and calling it a charge is bogus. The worst is when the offensive player is leaving the floor to go up for a layup, and just then a defender slides in front of the offensive player and then goes sprawling like some poor helpless waif. Eight out of 10 times, some goof official will call a charge--a bad call that not only takes away a legit basket from the offensive team in many cases, but then doubly penalizes the offensive team by assessing a charge foul on the player with the ball. So a bad call results in you losing two point AND gaining a foul. IMO it's some psychological thing in which the player with the ball is deemed to be aggressive because she has hit some helpless defender who goes sprawling, when the reality is that the defender at the last second has jumped in the way of the offensive player. It is just an axiom of college basketball that officials will make about 4 bad charge calls in every game. Of course, flopping as a LONG tradition in basketball, because it works. You would think that officials with experience would come to see flops for what they are--but they don't.
 
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I'd just as soon see a well played 35 to 30 game as see a foul fest , turnover, helter/skelter crapola 80 to 79 game. $0.02
 
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gule said:
high scores don't make a good game!
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I agree. But none of the people making the decisions agree with us.

The biggest problem with women's college ball is that is has become a "me too" game. They try to emulate the men's game and the women's pro game. What is the point of that? Those games are played at a higher level of athleticism and competence. If we want to watch that style then those are the best options.

What attracted a lot of us to the women's college game was that it was a purer form of the sport where everything hadn't been sold out to try to create a flying circus atmosphere with high scores and people playing matador style defense. It was a game where fundamentals and teamwork mattered more than in the other leagues.

They gave up the one thing that differentiated them from the other versions of the game.

But that being the case we need to adjust. We can't field teams that shoot 10% less than UConn across the board and expect to make up the difference on defense. It won't happen.
 
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Voluble2 said:
We can't field teams that shoot 10% less than UConn across the board and expect to make up the difference on defense. It won't happen.
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Especially considering that UConn has also been the top defensive team in the country for at least the last 2 years.

Defense is still what wins championships but today's top teams have high percentage outside shooters. The days of relying on offensive boards and putbacks has passed.
 
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linkster said:
Especially considering that UConn has also been the top defensive team in the country for at least the last 2 years.

Defense is still what wins championships but today's top teams have high percentage outside shooters. The days of relying on offensive boards and putbacks has passed.
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No one here will debate that with you son.
 
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Of course they're defensive numbers are eye popping when you play high school teams most of your schedule. I give them credit, they do play great defense against the top teams, but their numbers are skewed imo.
 
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LadyVol1908 said:
Of course they're defensive numbers are eye popping when you play high school teams most of your schedule. I give them credit, they do play great defense against the top teams, but their numbers are skewed imo.
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Except their defensive numbers are eye popping against the top teams as well..

Sure, they play ian weak ass conference, but they treat top 10 teams with the same disdain they do against their mediocre conference opponents.

That balance of defense and offense is what Tennessee needs to emulat if they want to get back to the top.
 
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Amb3096 said:
Except their defensive numbers are eye popping against the top teams as well..

Sure, they play ian weak ass conference, but they treat top 10 teams with the same disdain they do against their mediocre conference opponents.

That balance of defense and offense is what Tennessee needs to emulat if they want to get back to the top.
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I can agree with you there....if we get the offense clicking we'd be great. I think our defensive game is there
 
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Anybody heard anything as to whether Diamond will be able to play in Italy? I'll hang up and listen.
 
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Holly Warlick said the other day in an interview she was ready to go now. She said she could have played some in the word games but she was smart not to play.
 
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