Did Cutler quit?

#79
#79
I don't think he pulled a Vince. He's not that mentally weak i don't think. Bears are saying MCL tear.
 
#81
#81
I don't know and don't care if he was hurt our not. How he checked out mentally and pouted on the sidelines instead of interacting with his team, especially the 3rd string QB, is more damning by far. QB's are supposed to be leaders. Cutler is no leader, and the Bears are stuck with him, for better or worse. His teammates have to back him publicly, he's their best shot at winning. Modern day Jeff George.
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#82
#82
when did he pout on the sidelines? the guy couldnt even step in his throw crying out loud...
 
#83
#83
In addition to my previous post, whether you give a damn or not, you should at least act like you care. Didn't see Cutler encouraging anybody on the sidelines. Once he was out, he may as well have gone on to the lockerroom. Could have dodged a lot as the criticism.
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#84
#84
Regulator said:
I don't know and don't care if he was hurt our not. How he checked out mentally and pouted on the sidelines instead of interacting with his team, especially the 3rd string QB, is more damning by far. QB's are supposed to be leaders. Cutler is no leader, and the Bears are stuck with him, for better or worse. His teammates have to back him publicly, he's their best shot at winning. Modern day Jeff George.
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Regulator said:
In addition to my previous post, whether you give a damn or not, you should at least act like you care. Didn't see Cutler encouraging anybody on the sidelines. Once he was out, he may as well have gone on to the lockerroom. Could have dodged a lot as the criticism.
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You must have been watching another game. Cutler was into the game, talking to his teammates and cheering from what I saw.
 
#86
#86
lylsmorr said:
You must have been watching another game. Cutler was into the game, talking to his teammates and cheering from what I saw.
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Most of what I saw was him either sitting on the bench, looking disgusted, or standing on the sideline with earbuds firmly in ears, still with the same disgusted/disinterested look on his face.
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#88
#88
You know who's a total pussy? Tom Brady. He quit on a whole season because of a knee injury. I mean, play through it, Nancy.
 
#89
#89
droski said:
one can actually play on a mcl tear
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There is a line when one is "tough" and one is "stupid" for playing through an injury. Let's face it he sucked the entire time he was in and was only hurting the team by staying in. Didn't Favre get the same criticism? There were times when the best option was the #2 behind him but he still played but his performance wasn't any where the level needed from him.
 
#90
#90
I'd bet that Martz had at least something to do with the call and Cutler was pissed about it. After watching about 3 of those back foot bleeders, they had to do something.
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#91
#91
justingroves said:
Urlacher said this too:

"I don't give a [expletive] about players around the league who are watching the game from home," said Bears linebacker Brian Urlacher."It's easy to talk [expletive] about someone while you're sitting on your couch watching the game. That's all I'm saying. I don't understand it. I don't get it. Let them sprain their MCL -- or do whatever he did to his knee -- and let them get back in the game. Let's see them do that, see how well they run the ball, or see how well they do at whatever position they play. I don't agree with it. It's easy to write that stuff on the Internet."
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I love that this statement was directed straight at Maurice Jones Drew
 
#92
#92
Two Jaguars central in Cutler criticism - AFC South Blog - ESPN

Jay Cutler's knee injury and subsequent departure from Sunday’s NFC Championship Game provided the latest example of the power of Twitter.

The critiques and questions about his status came not just from pundits and fans, but from peers.

Two of the outspoken players were Jacksonville Jaguars.

Kirk Morrison (@kirkmorrison55) tweeted:


kirkmorrison55 Jay Cutler better go put some Tussin on that knee and get back out there. Tussin cures all. #Robitussin 23 Jan 2011 from ÜberTwitter
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kirkmorrison55 If my knee was hurt or acl/mcl/pcl sprain, I would not be standing up on the sideline. #jaycutler 23 Jan 2011 from ÜberTwitter
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And Maurice Jones-Drew (@Jones_Drew32) said this:


Jones_Drew32 Hey I think the urban meyer rule is effect right now... When the going gets tough........QUIT.. 23 Jan 2011 from ÜberTwitter Jones_Drew32 All I'm saying is that he can finish the game on a hurt knee... I played the whole season on one... 23 Jan 2011 from ÜberTwitter
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Actually, MJD, you didn’t play the whole season on it, you missed the last two games when your team collapsed. But that didn't really fit with what you were saying, so it was easy to leave out.

Jones-Drew’s second tweet was used in a question to Brian Urlacher, who gave a very passionate defense of Cutler and slammed the likes of Jones-Drew:

"It’s easy to talk [expletive] about someone when you’re sitting on your couch watching the game"

The always measured Kevin Seifert hit just the right notes in this piece. Fair or not it’s a defining day for Cutler. Jim Trotter’s column is also a must read.

Twitter has made it easier than ever to give a jump to judgment greater volume. But there is context that’s necessary before we get a verdict. The Bears would be wise to offer as much as possible as soon as possible.

My take:
We need to find out just how bad it was before we crush Cutler.

Just because Philip Rivers once played in the playoffs with a torn ACL doesn’t mean everyone can or should play through anything and everything.

Standing on the sideline in a parka is a much easier thing than dropping back, dodging a rush or absorbing a hit and stepping into throws. If he limped more, grimaced more, stayed in for a few more plays to make bad throws to prove just how bad it was, would that have made it more palatable?
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#93
#93
not once while I was watching the game yesterday did I question Cutler's heart, desire, injury, etc. I took it for what it was and accepted that he was hurt. people read too much into things that are not there all the time.
 
#94
#94
If I were Cutler, and had a sprained/torn ACL/MCL (wasn't known for sure at the time, I don't think) I wouldn't have gone back in.

Comparing him to Rivers and Brady is kind of a moot point as he relies on his mobility more than Rivers and Brady did/do. Rivers was also terrible in the game with a tear... and his OL was easily better (in 2007) than what is up at Chicago.
 
#96
#96
volfanbill said:
His center claims it's remarkable he was even able to come out to try in the second half, that his knee was shaking uncontrollably in the huddle before the half ended. It's amazing how powerful and strong all you armchair qbs are from the comfy confines of your own home. It's a lot easier to push buttons on a remote and eat potato chips than stand in the pocket and deliver a strike to a WR on a torn MCL/ACL. Lovie even said he wanted to go back out, but the doctors wouldn't let him.
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this would lead a rational person to come to the conclusion that he did try to come back after halftime. just because he didn't come out onto the field during the game and try doesn't mean he didn't test it out.
 
#97
#97
When you consider that Cutler didn't do a lot when he was in there, even before he got hurt - maybe the game would have been an even worse loss if he had played the whole game, injured or not.
 
#98
#98
MWR said:
When you consider that Cutler didn't do a lot when he was in there, even before he got hurt - maybe the game would have been an even worse loss if he had played the whole game, injured or not.
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If not injured he's way better than Hanie, but he was injured...not sure why that's so hard for the general public to grasp
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#99
#99
VKAman said:
If not injured he's way better than Hanie, but he was injured...not sure why that's so hard for the general public to grasp
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Yep, that's why Hanie is 3rd string. But the Packers dominated the first half when Cutler was in there, so I guess it was just a bad day to be a Bear's fan, no matter who the QB was.
 
#100
#100
droski said:
one can actually play on a mcl tear
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A QB can play without much deficiency if he has an LCL tear in his non-dominant leg or an MLC in his dominant leg, assuming that he's going to mostly be dropping back, planting, and throwing. The reason has to do with the way that force is applied.

An LCL tear in the dominant leg or MCL tear in the non-dominant is a disaster waiting to happen.
 
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