Did one of kidnap Cspin and emain

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DAVOL

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I have'nt seen any postings from them in awhile y'all already got the numbers scewed your way letem go.:p
 
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I am sure CSPIN is busy with the primary stuff. As for emain I dunno where he is at. I really miss him!
 
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It would be nice if CSpin returned. He actually had some though provoking insights...

Yes, OE, that one was for you.
 
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"The Audacity of Hope"--Sermon by Reverend Jeremiah Wright

Obama is not real adept at this whole critical thinking/weighing the consequences of decisions type thing...
 
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therealUT said:
"The Audacity of Hope"--Sermon by Reverend Jeremiah Wright

Obama is not real adept at this whole critical thinking/weighing the consequences of decisions type thing...
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Even though I don't support Obama, I don't blame him for his Reverend's actions. The man obviously felt because he associated himself with Obama he could become more bold with his actions and get his few minutes of fame. He did and I don't feel it should hurt Obama, it should only hurt the Reverend. But then again I realize what this country is really about these days and I blame someone else for me evening writing this response.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Even though I don't support Obama, I don't blame him for his Reverend's actions. The man obviously felt because he associated himself with Obama he could become more bold with his actions and get his few minutes of fame. He did and I don't feel it should hurt Obama, it should only hurt the Reverend. But then again I realize what this country is really about these days and I blame someone else for me evening writing this response.
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Wrong. Obama chose to be a member of a church that was headed by a bigot.
 
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allvol123 said:
Wrong. Obama chose to be a member of a church that was headed by a bigot.
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So did Obama instruct him to give the sermon?? Obviously not, so why should it hurt him?? So are you saying that everyone in the congregation should be punished for their preacher's arrogance or just a Senator who is running for President??
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
So did Obama instruct him to give the sermon?? Obviously not, so why should it hurt him?? So are you saying that everyone in the congregation should be punished for their preacher's arrogance or just a Senator??
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Can you not see the importance of Obama's absolute horrible decision making? Wright gives the sermons and Obama chooses to condone them by remaining a member of the church. I am not saying anyone should be punished. But no one that is a member of that church deserves to be POTUS.
 
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emainvol said:
Does that mean that everyone that has ever attended a church headed by a pedophile should hear about it if they run for office?
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You really think that is a good analogy? First, attending a church and being a member are two entirely DIFFERENT scenarios. Second, anyone that knows that a minister is a pedophile and does not report them should not be POTUS. Not a hard call there.
 
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allvol123 said:
Can you not see the importance of Obama's absolute horrible decision making? Wright gives the sermons and Obama chooses to condone them by remaining a member of the church. I am not saying anyone should be punished. But no one that is a member of that church deserves to be POTUS.
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He's already said he didn't condone nor approved of the Reverend's sermon. What more do you want??
 
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allvol123 said:
So?
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I'm just saying that he might not have been there during the 10 second sound bites that have been all over the news. I'm sure he has heard him say controversial statements but to what extent were the statements Obama heard?
 
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allvol123 said:
You really think that is a good analogy? First, attending a church and being a member are two entirely DIFFERENT scenarios. Second, anyone that knows that a minister is a pedophile and does not report them should not be POTUS. Not a hard call there.
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I think emain's whole point is that the person is a known pedophile, not a closet one. I consider Billary's whole faith dilemma one of more questioning than Obama's. At least Obama can name his Reverend.
 
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Obama calls him his spiritual advisor. Before laying that title on someone you would think a person knows where that person stands on beliefs.
 
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jkell24 said:
I'm just saying that he might not have been there during the 10 second sound bites that have been all over the news. I'm sure he has heard him say controversial statements but to what extent were the statements Obama heard?
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I have heard a lot of controversial statements in my life from people I would consider "spiritual people" and that doesn't mean I am going to go apply it to my life the instant I leave. People discern for themselves what needs to happen in their life, and most know when things are being stretched. Obama even knows.
 
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allvol123 said:
You really think that is a good analogy? First, attending a church and being a member are two entirely DIFFERENT scenarios. Second, anyone that knows that a minister is a pedophile and does not report them should not be POTUS. Not a hard call there.
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You are working under the assumption that Barack Obama was well aware of Wright's bigotry, I am working under the assumption that he was not. I would venture to say not only does Barack not attend every Sunday, he probably attends sparingly at best.

As for membership versus attendance, you are dead on.
 
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allvol123 said:
Obama calls him his spiritual advisor. Before laying that title on someone you would think a person knows where that person stands on beliefs.
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The guy might talk about the bible and Jesus 99.9 percent of the time and the .1 percent of time that he says stupid stuff has been on the news. How do we know what Obama is taking away from this guy? He said that he does not approve of the comments that have been on the news so I'll take his word on it.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
I have heard a lot of controversial statements in my life from people I would consider "spiritual people" and that doesn't mean I am going to go apply it to my life the instant I leave. People discern for themselves what needs to happen in their life, and most know when things are being stretched. Obama even knows.
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That's exactly why this shouldn't hurt Obama.
 
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allvol123 said:
Obama calls him his spiritual advisor. Before laying that title on someone you would think a person knows where that person stands on beliefs.
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Then any politician who has ever been in bed with the Christian Coalition and all that garbage should immediately resign their post.
 
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