Discussion of gay rights, religion, abortion...oh yeah, and Pete Rose

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Vol Mania 21 said:
say a Christian got up there and had made a statement about their beliefs, what do you think the reaction would be to that?
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lol what are you talking about? almost all of them thank "jesus christ, my lord and savior. i wouldn't be here without him"
 
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toxicdonut said:
lol what are you talking about? almost all of them thank "jesus christ, my lord and savior. i wouldn't be here without him"
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rappers who have songs about killing, raping, drugs, etc also say it. that's not like making a big deal of Christianity like that guy did talking about equal rights for homosexuality. he had a lil jab on the church in his speech. if a Christian went up there and made a statement on homosexuality there would be a HUGE uproar.
 
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Vol Mania 21 said:
not trying to make this personal at all, just asking. are you not a Christian?
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why does that matter? This country was founded on equal rights for those who were different.

Vol Mania 21 said:
i see. don't worry i'm not going to preach to you, was just curious. do u have another faith or do you not have a religion
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I'm a very devout Christian, but just because someone is a homosexual does not give us rights as Christians or Americans the right to deny them equal rights.

Vol Mania 21 said:
i agree, but at the same time i can't support it w/ my religion. now that doesn't mean i hate them. bc if i did then i'd be doing what my religion tells me not to do.
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You are supposed to support all people with your religion, regardless of their faults towards your religion. Are you faultless? Based on your lust for Jessica Alba, I'm voting no.

Vol Mania 21 said:
portman is hot, stiller hilarious.

think back a few generations, homosexuality was around, but it sure as heck wasn't as out in the open as it is now. personally i just think its wrong. it'll eventually be passed in my lifetime i'm sure, but idk hearing about it all the time drives me nuts.

say a Christian got up there and had made a statement about their beliefs, what do you think the reaction would be to that?
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Again, a true Christian would stand for all people. A Christian can point out they believe homosexuality is a sin, but it is FAR from their place to put judgment on them for their actions and deny them rights.

Vol Mania 21 said:
rappers who have songs about killing, raping, drugs, etc also say it. that's not like making a big deal of Christianity like that guy did talking about equal rights for homosexuality. he had a lil jab on the church in his speech. if a Christian went up there and made a statement on homosexuality there would be a HUGE uproar.
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Yes there would be a huge uproar if someone got up and bashed homosexuals as a Christian because instead of showing love and compassion, they would be condemning someone and passing judgment for no good reason.
 
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volfanbill said:
why does that matter? This country was founded on equal rights for those who were different.



I'm a very devout Christian, but just because someone is a homosexual does not give us rights as Christians or Americans the right to deny them equal rights.



You are supposed to support all people with your religion, regardless of their faults towards your religion. Are you faultless? Based on your lust for Jessica Alba, I'm voting no.



Again, a true Christian would stand for all people. A Christian can point out they believe homosexuality is a sin, but it is FAR from their place to put judgment on them for their actions and deny them rights.



Yes there would be a huge uproar if someone got up and bashed homosexuals as a Christian because instead of showing love and compassion, they would be condemning someone and passing judgment for no good reason.
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I'm not sure if you followed, or understood what i said. I don't support their lifestyles, but with that being said I don't hate them. Like the Bible says, love the sinner, hate the sin. Don't believe I passed judgement on anyone. You act like I came out with a torch judging everyone. In none of my posts do you see that.
 
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Vol Mania 21 said:
I'm not sure if you followed, or understood what i said. I don't support their lifestyles, but with that being said I don't hate them. Like the Bible says, love the sinner, hate the sin. Don't believe I passed judgement on anyone. You act like I came out with a torch judging everyone. In none of my posts do you see that.
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the fact that you want to deny them rights says otherwise.
 
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all i said was what rights do they not have? marriage? I believe marriage is between a man and a woman, vfb as a Christian you should agree. to act like they don't have any human rights is ridiculous.
 
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Vol Mania 21 said:
all i said was what rights do they not have? marriage? I believe marriage is between a man and a woman, vfb as a Christian you should agree. to act like they don't have any human rights is ridiculous.
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and of course you don't have the right to disagree with them-lest you be blasted for it.
 
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Vol Mania 21 said:
all i said was what rights do they not have? marriage? I believe marriage is between a man and a woman, vfb as a Christian you should agree. to act like they don't have any human rights is ridiculous.
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that's a marriage under God.

Gay marriage is about rights as an American. As a Christian American, I see the difference.
 
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i knw i'm so judgemental, and they aren't, by the way this is my 23,000th post congrats to me i'm an attention w****
 
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how am i denying anyone rights? do i have the power to deny someone rights? nope. all i said was that i don't agree with it from a moral standpoint. i'm not judging them which you are trying to prove i am. i knw many homosexuals. have no problems with them. i just don't support their lifestyle bc of what the Bible says. let me ask u this, who are you more willing to please, God, or humans?
 
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Vol Mania 21 said:
how am i denying anyone rights? do i have the power to deny someone rights? nope. all i said was that i don't agree with it from a moral standpoint. i'm not judging them which you are trying to prove i am. i knw many homosexuals. have no problems with them. i just don't support their lifestyle bc of what the Bible says. let me ask u this, who are you more willing to please, God, or humans?
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you please by God by "doing unto others as you would have them do unto you". So by pleasing humans in the matter of treating everyone equally, I believe I please God.

You have the right to vote. You have the right to vote against allowing gay marriages or gay unions, thus denying them of rights that opposite sex marriages get.
 
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I see your point. With that being said, I don't treat them differently. I don't judge them or make remarks or anything. yes I vote against gay marriage, doesn't mean my one vote is what made the difference. i take it you vote for gay marriage? if so do you think that is what God wants? again none of this is personal, just a few questions.
 
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