Discussions to fire Malzahn?

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Power T-Rev said:
This. It would have to be about big time money. It's a step down for Stoops
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Big time money I question whether Auburn has.

I'll use a round figure of $40-50 million to buy out Malzahn and his staff. Between $32-38 million for Gus alone (different sources) and I'd tack on probably another $5-10 million for staff buyouts. A guess on my part, but I couldn't imagine it would be less.

Then you are talking big time money with a comfortable parachute for a new head coach. Likely starting in the $8 million range per year in salary alone with a real nice buyout option (Auburn screwed themselves with their long term deal with Gus) along with probably $4-5 million for a new staff if not more. And what names are realistically available that are "big hitters" in the college or pro world?

Big Game Bob for one, which still has way more influence in the OU program than many know. Not to entirely say he's off the board, but I'd dare say there's going to be a lot of money involved to get him back into the coaching world.

Chris Petersen? An option, but has family issues that would need to be resolved before moving.

Mike Gundy? They'd have to start with $8 million per year as a base I'd imagine.

Gary Patterson? He has built the program at TCU from the ground up, but never has taken that next step of being a national contender every year. Why trade one coach who can't challenge at the next level for a coach who hasn't challenged at the next level?

Dabo? LOL. Clemson will pay for him to stay.

Mike Leach? Maybe, but he's building a winner in Washington State.

Jeff Brohm? Another maybe depending on the pile of money they toss. But if he's turning down (in public at least) his alma mater, what reason would he have to go to Auburn?

David Shaw? Another "maybe" but he's never given any indication he wants to leave Stanford nor has Stanford every given any indication they want him to leave.

Kirby Smart? Another lol. He's not going anywhere.

Jimmy Frank? Why move from your "destination" job where you're doing well to rebuilding yet another program where you play Bama, ATM, LSU and UGA every year? Right now, he only has to contend with Michigan and Ohio State realistically every year.

John Harbaugh? Possibly. And a "big name" hire the base would be happy with. Comes with money though. He has a salary of $7 million a year.

Just not many good options out there to make a lateral move that don't involve ten figures as a minimum to get them to move.
 
#52
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Grand Vol said:
Big time money I question whether Auburn has.

I'll use a round figure of $40-50 million to buy out Malzahn and his staff. Between $32-38 million for Gus alone (different sources) and I'd tack on probably another $5-10 million for staff buyouts. A guess on my part, but I couldn't imagine it would be less.
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Buying out Gus/his staff and then hiring a coach who would command a "Jimbo Fisher-type contract" (as the rumor mill said yesterday) would cost upwards of $100m. It is an absolutely ungodly, embarrassing amount of money.

Even if they don't sign the new coach to a $75m guaranteed deal like Jimbo got, the figure is still probably around $80-90m. That is a gigantic financial commitment even for a big school with big donors.

I think it is interesting that Big Game Bob gave a non-denial denial, kind of, to the rumors. He said "I haven’t talked to anybody from Auburn. I haven’t met with anybody...nor am I set to talk to anybody." He hasn't met with anyone yet, and isn't set to talk with anybody, as if he could set something up later. After all, the job isn't even open at the moment. His phrasing leaves it open for him to listen if an opening arose. I have no idea why he'd want that job though - a man with a ton of money appears to be enjoying retirement and he'd go back into the pressure cooker with extremely high expectations and would have to play/recruit against Alabama and Georgia every year.
 
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all that quote from Stoops does is up my belief that they are talking to him.

me thinks the lady doth protest too much.
 
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I don't care of its Central Michigan, if somebody is willing to pay $75 million guaranteed (if the Jimbo Fisher type contract is for real) you listen.
 
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05_never_again said:
I don't know if they have anybody, or a group of boosters, willing to back a move that could cost $80m+. If a Jimbo-style contract is being discussed, that would cost over $100m.
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I have never thought that they would fire him strictly from a buyout perspective, but I know they have the money to do it and from everything I have heard for the last 48 hours from people is that its a great possibility.
 
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This is so weird that twice they have been involved in replacements when current coach hasnt been fired. Tuberville had to deal with this when AD had Bobby Pitrino down to gauge interest. Now Gus Malzahn possibly only coming back if they cant one up him with replacement.
 
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Malzahn close to accepting changes to remain at Auburn

Though no agreement has been finalized and changes remain possible, Gus Malzahn is on the verge of accepting a reduced buyout and other limitations to remain for his seventh season as Auburn’s head football coach, sources told AuburnUndercover.

Malzahn’s buyout, sources said, would be reduced by an unspecified amount. Any coaching staff moves would have to be revenue neutral, effectively removing the possibility of paying buyouts for assistant coaches and assuring Chip Lindsey would remain as offensive coordinator unless he chooses to leave.
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Why in the world would Malzahn agree to these terms? How could it possibly benefit him to accept a reduced buyout and limitations on staff spending, thus hamstringing his ability to improve the ranks of his assistants, just for the sake of staying for another year, after which it will be much easier to fire him?
 
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bamawriter said:
Malzahn close to accepting changes to remain at Auburn



Why in the world would Malzahn agree to these terms? How could it possibly benefit him to accept a reduced buyout and limitations on staff spending, thus hamstringing his ability to improve the ranks of his assistants, just for the sake of staying for another year, after which it will be much easier to fire him?
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I would look them straight in the eyes and say, fire me !
 
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bamawriter said:
Malzahn close to accepting changes to remain at Auburn



Why in the world would Malzahn agree to these terms? How could it possibly benefit him to accept a reduced buyout and limitations on staff spending, thus hamstringing his ability to improve the ranks of his assistants, just for the sake of staying for another year, after which it will be much easier to fire him?
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Maybe Pat Dye sent a horse head to Malzhan's bed.
 
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losing Kerryon Johnson the last 2 games of last season wasnt his fault and I think Auburn would have beat UGA with him playing - if he can get Bryant at QB they should be better
 
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bamawriter said:
Malzahn close to accepting changes to remain at Auburn



Why in the world would Malzahn agree to these terms? How could it possibly benefit him to accept a reduced buyout and limitations on staff spending, thus hamstringing his ability to improve the ranks of his assistants, just for the sake of staying for another year, after which it will be much easier to fire him?
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Agreed, makes no sense at all.

If they want him to accept all these changes in order to remain on, can't he just say "No, I don't accept, if you want to you can fire me and pay me my buyout."
 
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05_never_again said:
Agreed, makes no sense at all.

If they want him to accept all these changes in order to remain on, can't he just say "No, I don't accept, if you want to you can fire me and pay me my buyout."
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yeah he is pretty much set for life with that kind of money and he owns like 40 Waffle Houses
 
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bamawriter said:
Malzahn close to accepting changes to remain at Auburn



Why in the world would Malzahn agree to these terms? How could it possibly benefit him to accept a reduced buyout and limitations on staff spending, thus hamstringing his ability to improve the ranks of his assistants, just for the sake of staying for another year, after which it will be much easier to fire him?
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only thing I can think of is Malzahn believes next year will be better/good enough to keep him around.

even if agreed I would still want some very specific language on how long I could stay as Malzahn.
 
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05_never_again said:
Agreed, makes no sense at all.

If they want him to accept all these changes in order to remain on, can't he just say "No, I don't accept, if you want to you can fire me and pay me my buyout."
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I would think. He has an enforceable contract. The school can't unilaterally tear it up.
 
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