Disgraceful Officiating

#26
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The Original Fade said:
The refs didn’t cause a total collapse in the 2nd half against Bama, the refs didn’t stop us from winning vs KY, and the refs didn’t sleepwalk for 4 quarters against Missouri and allow them to utterly embarrass us on national TV
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DId he blame any loss on the FACTS stated? The integrity of the process of officiating can be statistically challenged. The lack of holding calls against the other teams ALONE with the graphic evidence of it's existence is enough to back up the numbers. Ten or so quarters of live ball perfection with the "you can call it on almost every play" mantra shared and accepted is very telling. We stunk up the Mizzou game enough to lose, but that does not give the officials a free pass. Once they establish threshold with a call on us, they MUST apply the same rule interpretation to them. Inequity of calls COULD impact our remaining 3 games so I want it cleaned up.
 
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The Original Fade said:
The refs didn’t cause a total collapse in the 2nd half against Bama, the refs didn’t stop us from winning vs KY, and the refs didn’t sleepwalk for 4 quarters against Missouri and allow them to utterly embarrass us on national TV
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...the refs didn't call a blatant hold against Tyler Barron when Bama scored their first TD in the second half. Whenever Tyler gets put in a headlock you A) know it won't get called. B) the other team is about to score.

and thats not to mention the bizarre call that put us at the 4 yard line to open the half. If TN gets just one score in the 3rd quarter it changes the dynamic of that game. F9kQKLVW4AAdqMV (1).jpg
 
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Stacmot said:
The refs had nothing to do with the Mizzou game!
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Of course it did. UT was driving to pull within one score. Sampson made a big run down to around the 6 and the officials threw not just one but TWO ridiculous flags for holding.

UT stank it up and made a lot of mistakes. But if those calls aren't made then we do not know how the momentum would have gone for the rest of the game.
 
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sjt18 said:
Of course it did. UT was driving to pull within one score. Sampson made a big run down to around the 6 and the officials threw not just one but TWO ridiculous flags for holding.

UT stank it up and made a lot of mistakes. But if those calls aren't made then we do not know how the momentum would have gone for the rest of the game.
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So true and even Gary Danielson kept saying that a bad call, there was no holding and they replayed it. If we scored there, the game changes. That's a critical point in the game and just like that, it was taken away from us.
 
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sjt18 said:
Of course it did. UT was driving to pull within one score. Sampson made a big run down to around the 6 and the officials threw not just one but TWO ridiculous flags for holding.

UT stank it up and made a lot of mistakes. But if those calls aren't made then we do not know how the momentum would have gone for the rest of the game.
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And don't forget the phantom facemask call when our DB was getting held when we had them stopped on 3rd and long. That allowed Mizzu to keep possession, score and make it a 3TD game instead of 2.
 
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The Original Fade said:
The refs didn’t cause a total collapse in the 2nd half against Bama, the refs didn’t stop us from winning vs KY, and the refs didn’t sleepwalk for 4 quarters against Missouri and allow them to utterly embarrass us on national TV
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No one is disputing that. This thread is about the imbalanced officiating, not the Vols' poor plays and/or coaching on the field.
 
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FollowTheLeader said:
So true and even Gary Danielson kept saying that a bad call, there was no holding and they replayed it. If we scored there, the game changes. That's a critical point in the game and just like that, it was taken away from us.
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As people have said, they want Bama and georgia in the championship game. I wouldn't be surprised if Bama beats georgia, and they both get in the playoffs. It will be OSU, Bama, FSU and georgia in the playoffs.
 
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The only thing that our program can control is our own player/team discipline.

It seems like we’ve committed so many pre-snap penalties that it’s ridiculous. We’re an undisciplined and mentally weak team right now. No other way to explain it.

But, yes, the officiating has been blatantly bad and one-sided.
 
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McDad said:
F. Scott Fitzgerald wrote: “The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function.

It is possible to be angry at officiating AND acknowledge the poor officiating had little (if anything) to do with UT's abysmal performances.
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You shut your dirty mouth!
 
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I ain't one for conspiracies...The moon landing was real, the alien mummies in Mexico are fake, and the earth is round...but I'll be damned if the officiating at Tennessee games has heavily favored every single opponent so blatantly that it could only be an orchestrated effort. For what reasons? I dont know. Maybe the illuminati thought this years team would exceed the performance of last years team?
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
So discussion on a message board can do that?
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Discussion EVERYWHERE does that.

Social media for good and ill has shaped a lot of "narratives" that have driven decisions and in some cases accountability. For instance, without social media the Hunter Biden scandal would have been buried. Even supposed conservative news outlets avoided it at first.

This message board is parroted enough by bloggers and other media members often enough that it is a VERY safe bet some either post or lurk here.

So in a word, YES. The discussions here spill over to youtube, X, instagram, and other news sources. How do you think the fan reaction to Schiano was known and gauged? It wasn't by protesters armed with signs in front of the AD. It was the thousands on social media overwhelmingly saying "NO".
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
I think the CFP committee wants 2 B10 teams in
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Not very likely to happen. The loser of tOSU/UM is out, as is the loser of UA/UGA. Playoff will be Pac12 champ, SEC champ, Big 10 champ and FSU (ACC champ). The only way that turns out different, IMO, is if Bama wins a close one vs. UGA, Washington or Oregon loses to Oregon St. then the loser to Oregon St. wins the Pac12. Then, Bama is in, 1-loss UGA gets the nod over the 1-loss Pac12 champ. At this point in time, UGA and Bama are the best two teams in college football.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
Anyone who defends crappy officiating probably excuses their poor work ethic in real life.

Stop making excuses for the refs screw ups!
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Honestly before joining this board years ago I had never run across a lot of people who demanded that something be "this or that". UT has played poorly at times. Neither of us would deny that. UT definitely played poorly enough in the MU game to make things easy for the Tigers.

That does not change the fact that bad officiating contributed to the direction of the game and in some way the outcome. If the Vols don't have the holding call on Sampson's run and manage to pull within a score then it effects how both sides call the game afterwards. It changes every play and decision that followed. Maybe MU still wins. Maybe it still gets ugly... OR... maybe it becomes a tight winnable game.
 
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hog88 said:
And don't forget the phantom facemask call when our DB was getting held when we had them stopped on 3rd and long. That allowed Mizzu to keep possession, score and make it a 3TD game instead of 2.
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It was face masking technically. But it was also a hold that should have been called. You cannot call one and not the other while staring right at it. That is bias. I can't say why they are biased... only that they are.
 
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LAVol1 said:
Not very likely to happen. The loser of tOSU/UM is out, as is the loser of UA/UGA. Playoff will be Pac12 champ, SEC champ, Big 10 champ and FSU (ACC champ). The only way that turns out different, IMO, is if Bama wins a close one vs. UGA, Washington or Oregon loses to Oregon St. then the loser to Oregon St. wins the Pac12. Then, Bama is in, 1-loss UGA gets the nod over the 1-loss Pac12 champ. At this point in time, UGA and Bama are the best two teams in college football.
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TBH, my "dream" scenario after what I've seen from the officiating this year and lack of effective response by the SEC... would be for NO SEC teams to get in. I'm really pretty fed up with it.
 
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The pass interference called during the Missouri game was a spear tackle on a receiver in the open field. I’m sure the official was reluctant to let go of the flag even in that instance.
 
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McDad said:
F. Scott Fitzgerald wrote: “The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function.

It is possible to be angry at officiating AND acknowledge the poor officiating had little (if anything) to do with UT's abysmal performances.
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Refs are an easy scapegoat for people who‘s default is to blame some external force for their misery, instead of just dealing with the harsh reality that the team has severely underperformed in the games people are citing as examples of a ref conspiracy.

Has nothing to do with being able to hold 2 opposing views
 
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