Disney: The Most Evil Business In The World

[n_huffhines]

Chick Fil-A has been banned from several cities in the Northeast as a political attack for their owner donating to "anti-LGBT" causes.

I would say that qualifies and is even worse than Florida going after Disney.

What on earth makes the CFA thing worse? This time it's centralized government in a huge state where Disney already exists and can't move their investment to another state to retaliate against a government that is changing the deal on them. All CFA had to do was build somewhere other than places like Boston. Of course Florida vs. Disney is worse.

Chick-Fil-A had a great case for suing Boston and the mayor. That and Disney are both strong cases.

If there are instances where the people (and not a mayor/city council) voted to ban CFA, then there would be no case, IMO. Even in some instances where it's a city council, if they're not crusading against CFA, they're just trying to vote the way the people want them to vote, then there is no case.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Chick Fil-A has been banned from several cities in the Northeast as a political attack for their owner donating to "anti-LGBT" causes.

I would say that qualifies and is even worse than Florida going after Disney.

You didn't explain what makes them any different.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Got this from another poster on another site who seemed knowledgeable on the situation:

Let's look at actual facts:

1. The state of Florida dissolved all districts that were not renewed after a certain date. Reedy creek was one of those. Reedy creek was set to dissolve at a specific time if Disney did not file a new plan

2. Disney filed a new plan but the state set up its own district.

At this point if anyone on here believes that "freedom of speech" somehow trumps actual laws .. not sure what to tell you.

3. At some point before a new board was appointed to the new district, Disney and their reedy creek people passed some new bylaws or contractual agreements that may or may not be legal. That was being addressed by the new board

4. Disney sued screaming, among other things, that their freedom of speech was being denied.

The other theme parks are not part of any special district so any analogy or argument is worthless.

I do not know of how any federal court can make a ruling regarding either the dissolution or enactment of a special district. Nothing above has anything to do with free speech. Nothing above was isolated to Disney except their reapplication was not granted. However, that was the legislature

Your poster would be incorrect. The Act repealed any special district established before 1968. It allows for any entity affected by the new law to reapply for the re-establishment of the district. So, essentially the state of Florida tore up the deal between it and Disney and said we might let you have another.

Your poster really stated that state laws trump freedom of speech? Interesting take.

Literally everything that poster said was untrue.

http://laws.flrules.org/2022/266

Ask him how many other special districts were affected?

 

[volbound1700]

What on earth makes the CFA thing worse? This time it's centralized government in a huge state where Disney already exists and can't move their investment to another state to retaliate against a government that is changing the deal on them. All CFA had to do was build somewhere other than places like Boston. Of course Florida vs. Disney is worse.

Chick-Fil-A had a great case for suing Boston and the mayor. That and Disney are both strong cases.

If there are instances where the people (and not a mayor/city council) voted to ban CFA, then there would be no case, IMO. Even in some instances where it's a city council, if they're not crusading against CFA, they're just trying to vote the way the people want them to vote, then there is no case.

Doing business without benefits versus not being allowed to do business at all is DEFINITELY WORSE.

 

[n_huffhines]

Doing business without benefits versus not being allowed to do business at all is DEFINITELY WORSE.

That probably sounds good to you as a general rule of thumb, but I promise you that the scale of Disney's investment in FL makes CFA's potential earnings foregone in Boston look like fkn chicken scratch.

Again, this is the central government of a large state. IDK what your politics are, but I prefer small, local government to decide things. It sucks when they choose to be unfriendly to businesses, especially over political reasons, but I'll take that any day over the state government being unfriendly to business.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Doing business without benefits versus not being allowed to do business at all is DEFINITELY WORSE.

The only state in the lower 48 which doesn't have a Chick-fil-A franchise is Vermont.

Most of the "bans" which I have seen reported, only apply to unchaperoned minors, from dining-in. Even those bans appear to be relegated to Pennsylvania. These bans were due to vandalism that they were causing ... not anything related to gay rights.

There was a ban in Boston back in 2012 ... but that was by the late Mayor of Boston, Tom Menino, due to their opposition to same sex marriage. However, a franchise has since opened on Boylston Street.

 

[volbound1700]

The only state in the lower 48 which doesn't have a Chik-fil-A franchise is Vermont.

Most of the "bans" which I have seen reported, only apply to unchaperoned minors, from dining-in. Even those bans appear to be relegated to Pennsylvania. These bans were due to vandalism tha they were causing ... not anything related to gay rights.

There was a ban in Boston back in 2012 ... but that was by the late Mayor of Boston, Tom Merino, due to their opposition to same sex marriage. However, a franchise has since opened on Boylston Street.

Exactly, it was government retaliation similar to Disney. Chik Fil-A never sued so we have no idea how a court would have taken it.

However, to say Disney is the only victim which was brought up here is total fabrication.

 

[BowlBrother85]

That probably sounds good to you as a general rule of thumb, but I promise you that the scale of Disney's investment in FL makes CFA's potential earnings foregone in Boston look like fkn chicken scratch.

Again, this is the central government of a large state. IDK what your politics are, but I prefer small, local government to decide things. It sucks when they choose to be unfriendly to businesses, especially over political reasons, but I'll take that any day over the state government being unfriendly to business.

He is referencing a really old story, which has become outdated. A Chick-fil-A franchise opened on Boylston Street in the heart of Boston over a year ago.

Chick-fil-A Opens Its First Boston Restaurant On Boylston Street

The mayor who was responsible for that ban, Tom Menino, died in 2014.

 

[n_huffhines]

He is referencing a really old story, which has become outdated. A Chick-fil-A franchise opened on Boylston Street in the heart of Boston over a year ago.

Chick-fil-A Opens Its First Boston Restaurant On Boylston Street

The mayor who was responsible for that ban, Tom Menino, died in 2014.

I was aware he died. I was the one who brought it up, just to find common ground on an instance where I agreed the city could be sued successfully. It's nice to know things changed

 

[BowlBrother85]

Exactly, it was government retaliation similar to Disney. Chik Fil-A never sued so we have no idea how a court would have taken it.

However, to say Disney is the only victim which was brought up here is total fabrication.

You also said that the situation with Chick-fil-A was worse than Disney, because they were "not being allowed to do business at all." That hasn't been true in over a year.

 

[volbound1700]

You also said that the situation with Chick-fil-A was worse than Disney, because they were "not being allowed to do business at all." That hasn't been true in over a year.

Not doing business versus losing a benefit is always worse.

Administration change was the only reason they are allowed to do new business. When you get a new governor in Florida, they could restore special status.

Point is that you were wrong and there are other instances besides Disney that have experienced discrimination or attacks for beliefs.

Look up Hobby Lobby as well.

 

[Septic]

Chick Fil-A has been banned from several cities in the Northeast as a political attack for their owner donating to "anti-LGBT" causes.

I would say that qualifies and is even worse than Florida going after Disney.

It's hugely discriminatory that CFA has been banned from public places (but it's not just the northeast). I don't think it's any more or less "worse" than the treatment that Disney is getting, but I'd love to hear why you think it is.

 

[volbound1700]

It's hugely discriminatory that CFA has been banned from public places (but it's not just the northeast). I don't think it's any more or less "worse" than the treatment that Disney is getting, but I'd love to hear why you think it is.

Personally, I think States have a lot of power to decide on Good Will of society and zoning records.

Different social viewpoints of society are here. Florida can agree that transgender ideology does not belong in school while Massachusetts (or just Boston in this instance) that anti-homosexual views are wrong. This is the point of the 10th Amendment which is often forgotten in discourse.

Companies should respect local laws. I think both Boston and Florida's actions are fine here. You don't like it, elect a new government.

 

[OrangeTsar]

The Democrats attempt to pass bills all the time to regulate gun makers out of business. Oil companies as well. What’s the difference?

 

[volbound1700]

The Democrats attempt to pass bills all the time to regulate gun makers out of business. Oil companies as well. What’s the difference?

There have been government retaliations by both sides for a long time now. Companies have even threaten action to force people to vote a certain direction (arguably Blackmail).

The only difference is Disney decided to file a lawsuit. I don't think it has ever been adjudicated on before.

 

[OrangeTsar]

There have been government retaliations by both sides for a long time now. Companies have even threaten action to force people to vote a certain direction (arguably Blackmail).

The only difference is Disney decided to file a lawsuit. I don't think it has ever been adjudicated on before.

The intersting thing is that Florida was not attempting to impose a new regulation on a company but to withdraw an extra benefit extended to a company, probably with the expectation at the time that it was temporary. I think that gives Disney a tougher row to hoe

 

[BowlBrother85]

The Democrats attempt to pass bills all the time to regulate gun makers out of business. Oil companies as well. What’s the difference?

What you are discussing is opposition to companies based directly against what those companies produce/manufacture. What Disney was guilty of was simply voicing criticism of Republican Party legislation.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

The Democrats attempt to pass bills all the time to regulate gun makers out of business. Oil companies as well. What’s the difference?

If the Dems really wanted to do something major to gun/oil companies, they would have in 09/10. Dems don't actually care about gun control or they would have done something when they had full control. They do just enough lip service to keep the $$ coming in

The gun/oil rules would apply evenly to everyone in that industry. The special district rules apply to 1/1800....

 

[RDU VOL#14]

So how the hell does this happen? It’s an honest question? Why do you still have B Roll w/ footage of the WTC? I guess they missed some of the wrong people in their layoffs.

 

[volbound1700]

Regarding the actual legality of Disney's case, I don't think you can call anyone's opinion stupid right now because this is literally something, to my knowledge, that has never been litigated on in the past.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Disney Invites Drag Queen Nina West to ‘The Little Mermaid’ World Premiere

As it continues to aggressively push LGBTQ ideology in its entertainment for children, the Walt Disney Co. invited drag queen Nina West to the world premiere of its live-action The Little Mermaid on Monday at the Dolby Theatre in Hollywood.

During the blue-carpet festivities, Nina West — whose real name is Andrew Levitt — cavorted with actress Melissa McCarthy, who plays Ursula the Sea Witch and has stated her performance was inspired by drag queens.

Nina West is quickly becoming a Disney staple following his appearance in the Disney+ LGBTQ Pride concert in 2021, where West hosted the live-stream video that featured other drag queens plus performances of popular Disney songs re-imagined with LGBTQ themes.

Drag culture is becoming a central component of Disney’s entertainment for children.

Disney Invites Drag Queen Nina West to ‘The Little Mermaid’ World Premiere​

 

[Lawrence Wright]

The intersting thing is that Florida was not attempting to impose a new regulation on a company but to withdraw an extra benefit extended to a company, probably with the expectation at the time that it was temporary. I think that gives Disney a tougher row to hoe

As a courtesy for receiving so-called special privileges, Disney pays taxes to Orange County, Osceola County and Reedy Creek.

Having worked closely with all three of those entities over the past 30+ years, Reedy Creek runs circles around local counties with respect to efficiency, getting projects developed, approved and completed.

 

[OrangeTsar]

As a courtesy for receiving so-called special privileges, Disney pays taxes to Orange County, Osceola County and Reedy Creek.

Having worked closely with all three of those entities over the past 30+ years, Reedy Creek runs circles around local counties with respect to efficiency, getting projects developed, approved and completed.

Hey, Mussolini made the trains run on time too

 

[Lawrence Wright]

Hey, Mussolini made the trains run on time too

womp womp

 

[VolStrom]

As a courtesy for receiving so-called special privileges, Disney pays taxes to Orange County, Osceola County and Reedy Creek.

Having worked closely with all three of those entities over the past 30+ years, Reedy Creek runs circles around local counties with respect to efficiency, getting projects developed, approved and completed.

So are you saying that Reedy Creek had an advantage over the other businesses in the area like Universal?