Do you believe in the SEC conspiracy?

[lawgator1]

Perhaps it is ridiculous, the simple fact is that there is a perception, right or wrong, that this very well could be the case. The very fact that so many controversial calls seem to lend some credence to the conspiracy theorists is a problem. I put this on Slive because I believe he has handled this entire deal very poorly, he has been very reactionary, another detail that in some ways acts as fuel for the fire as well.

The problem isn't so much that there are people that believe a conspiracy is possible, it is that there has been enough fuel added to fire (more controversial and just plain incorrect calls made in UF and bama's favor). Fix the officiating and the conspiracy doesn't exist period.

Slive has not done this, the bad calls have piled up and he has gone after coaches instead of the poor continued officiating. Slive has his work cut out for him after the season, he has a lot to fix.

You are at least somewhat rational, but the bulk of the people chiming in on this have but one goal, and that is to hedge their bets should Florida or Alabama be crowned national champion. Its all about creating the opportunity to deny their success.

 

[VolDad]

The folks from rivals of Alabama and Florida would like to tout this as a conspiracy so as to minimize the success of Alabama and Florida, yes. The national "sports media" promote it because its fun and entertaining, even with no evidence to support it.

It is hard, after all, to disprove a negative, particularly a conspiracy because, if the SEC or UF or Alabama says there isn't one, then you looney toons folks just say, well, of course yo usay there isn't one. That's part of the conspiracy!

Seriously, do you think that if the SEC admins had sat down and figured out to do that and then relayed that to a dozen refs and support folks, so that they were on national tv making intentionally bad split second calls, no one would know?

Idiocy to think that. Truly mind bendingly stupid.

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I am just pulling your chain. Here is my conspiracy theory. \/ \/ \/ \/ Do you not think it happens?

Do you believe that certain teams/players benefit from calls more than others (i.e., Greg Maddux would get the called strike just off the plate over the rookie with the same pitch or Michael Jordan would not be called for the charge whereas the rookie would)?

I have seen it happen all the times in sports. Call it conspiracy, bias, favoritism, or whatever you want. It happens. Kiffin calling attention to that bias is no different than those who pointed out Greg Maddux’s enlarged strike zone.

 

[cotton]

That's evidence that there was a bad call. It is not evidence that the bad call was due to a conspiracy. There is no evidence that there is a conspiracy. That's because there is none.

So what's your explanation, couselor? Your theory of consistently inept individual calls that coincidentally always seem to benefit the higher ranked team seems a bit far fectched as well.

Do I believe Mike Slive is a wicked genius, manipulating on-field calls and replay officials in a moneymaking scheme? Not really. But it is hard to ignore that the teams in contention always seem to get the benefit of any doubt, sometimes even when, through the beauty of modern technology, there isn't any doubt.

Conspiracy is a loaded word that conjures up images of black helicopters and masterminds. It doesn't seem to fit with reality. But what would you name a series of a dozen or so bad calls that all went the way of a couple of pre-annointed teams that helped preserve their seasons?

 

[iuvol2012]

That's evidence that there was a bad call. It is not evidence that the bad call was due to a conspiracy. There is no evidence that there is a conspiracy. That's because there is none.

Then what do you call it? Consistently bad officiating would seem to suggest that there is some type of effort to help Florida and Alabama.

 

[cotton]

Then what do you call it? Consistently bad officiating would seem to suggest that there is some type of effort to help

Florida and Alabama.

It is the motive that is misunderstood, and it is obscured by a bunch of people blaming Mike Slive and constructing some type of Oliver Stone scenario.

Nobody, on the field or in the booth, wants to be the guy who ruined a superteam by botching a call on a fumble on a play that, 999 times in 1,000, would have been a touchdown. Nobody wants to be the guy who cost Bama its 514th national championship buy awarding an int. on the sideline when the guy had to have stepped OB.

The expectation is that Bama and Florida (and earlier, LSU,) were going to roll through and become a team of the ages; the bad calls are born from those expectations, and in the end they help fulfill them. Anybody remember the 1991 Orange Bowl, where a flag was thrown on Raghib Ismael’s punt return for a bad block, costing ND a national title? No official wants to be the guy who called that in his own conference.

The result is that, to beat one of the darlings, opponents have to be 10 or 14 points better than them rather than 1, and that is absolutely inexcusable in the age of instant replay and 23 hi-def cameras on the sidelines.. I don’t know if that qualifies under the lay definition of conspiracy or not, but that’s the way I see it.

 

[Tidal Surge]

You are at least somewhat rational, but the bulk of the people chiming in on this have but one goal, and that is to hedge their bets should Florida or Alabama be crowned national champion. Its all about creating the opportunity to deny their success.

Spot on! :good!:

 

[VOLARMY]

You are at least somewhat rational, but the bulk of the people chiming in on this have but one goal, and that is to hedge their bets should Florida or Alabama be crowned national champion. Its all about creating the opportunity to deny their success.

NO ! If your team were'nt in the hunt , the roles would be reversed . It's about $$$$$$$$ plain and simple . The only two teams NOT complaining are Bama and Florida . The calls this year have been horrible and GAME CHANGING . The SEC wants these two teams in the SECCG and every close call has and will go to those two teams to make that happen . I have said all year long that Bama is the best team in the country so I'm not trying to discredit anyones success . I think Bama will kill UF in the CG and go on to win the NCG . They could have done it without any help

 

[cotton]

Spot on! :good!:

It will be interesting to see how trolls like you respond should St. Tim and Pope Urban get a timely gift from the zebras against you in the SECC.