Does the SEC still get 4 teams in the playoffs?

[volfan102455]

Prediction of Tuesday's rankings:

1. Oregon
2. Ohio State
3. Texas
4. Notre Dame
5. Penn State
6. Miami
7. Georgia
8. Tennessee
9. Indiana
10. SMU
11. Boise State
12. Clemson
13. South Carolina
14. Arizona State
15: Tulane
16. Iowa State

Actually, Bosie State gets the bye over Arizona State with your predicted rankings and Arizona State moves up as the last team in. And TN would play at Georgia in the playoffs.

 

[volfan102455]

I think the only way the SEC gets four teams in is if A&M wins the SEC championship game and they keep Georgia in due to their strength of schedule and land them as the last team in. That implies Tennessee takes care of business with Vandy.

What I am not sure of is whether A&M would be in that game with a win over Texas. I do know that would result with 4 teams with identical SEC records of 6-2 (provided Tennessee beats Vandy).

I also feel that a Texas loss to A&M would drop them below Georgia and likely Tennessee but would not drop them completely out of a playoff spot.

 

[bpalmer28]

Actually, Bosie State gets the bye over Arizona State with your predicted rankings and Arizona State moves up as the last team in. And TN would play at Georgia in the playoffs.

You’re right about Boise State. Georgia deal depends on how the treat teams that lose the their conference championship. I think playing at UGA is as likely as anything else.

 

[Daniel_Lincolns_Foot]

well how would you ever possibly have that, since you don't have and won't ever have similar schedules?

Conferences are eventually going to need to net out with an even number of teams and even number of divisions. Since conferences are no longer regional it would be easier than before, but still difficult. It could be structured like an NFL schedule. Something like:

4 conferences with 16 teams. 2 divisions per conference with 8 teams each.

Each team....
Plays division opponents (7 games)
Plays 2 from other division (2 games--rotational)
Plays 1 from each other conferences (3 games--rotational)

After everything plays out, top 2 teams from each division are taken to make the field for a 16 team playoff (no conference championship). Or you could just do 8 teams and make the winners of each division play for the conference championship. In this case it just becomes part of the playoff.

This would, of course, require the FBS to cut down to 64 teams. Get rid of the scrubs. UMass? UTEP? Troy? You don't get to play for the national championship anymore. Sorry.

It would also require people to put their egos to the side and accept the fact that you are sometimes going to pull and easier schedule than other teams. Sometimes your schedule is going to be harder. That's just the nature of the rotational scheduling. Also that, sometimes, you're going to miss the playoffs even though you have a better overall record than a playoff team in another conference/division. Again, it's just the nature of how the schedules sometimes play out.

Of course this is just a pipe dream and it probably will never come to fruition. But it would eliminate the idea of committee members like Warde Manuel sitting around, stroking his chin, asking "Is the Ole Miss loss to Kentucky really worse than the Alabama win over Georgia?" Again, this is just a way to remove inevitable biases and terrible takes by committee members when ranking teams.

 

[Power_Sweep_Vol]

Conferences are eventually going to need to net out with an even number of teams and even number of divisions. Since conferences are no longer regional it would be easier than before, but still difficult. It could be structured like an NFL schedule. Something like:

4 conferences with 16 teams. 2 divisions per conference with 8 teams each.

Each team....
Plays division opponents (7 games)
Plays 2 from other division (2 games--rotational)
Plays 1 from each other conferences (3 games--rotational)

After everything plays out, top 2 teams from each division are taken to make the field for a 16 team playoff (no conference championship). Or you could just do 8 teams and make the winners of each division play for the conference championship. In this case it just becomes part of the playoff.

This would, of course, require the FBS to cut down to 64 teams. Get rid of the scrubs. UMass? UTEP? Troy? You don't get to play for the national championship anymore. Sorry.

It would also require people to put their egos to the side and accept the fact that you are sometimes going to pull and easier schedule than other teams. Sometimes your schedule is going to be harder. That's just the nature of the rotational scheduling. Also that, sometimes, you're going to miss the playoffs even though you have a better overall record than a playoff team in another conference/division. Again, it's just the nature of how the schedules sometimes play out.

Of course this is just a pipe dream and it probably will never come to fruition. But it would eliminate the idea of committee members like Warde Manuel sitting around, stroking his chin, asking "Is the Ole Miss loss to Kentucky really worse than the Alabama win over Georgia?" Again, this is just a way to remove inevitable biases and terrible takes by committee members when ranking teams.

That is going to make someone playing an SEC schedule equal to someone playing an ACC schedule? Won't even make intra conference schedule equal. You will never be able to get away from an evaluation process like we have now...

 

[Daniel_Lincolns_Foot]

That is going to make someone playing an SEC schedule equal to someone playing an ACC schedule? Won't even make intra conference schedule equal. You will never be able to get away from an evaluation process like we have now...

That's fine, but then people can't complain when the committee lets a 3 loss Bama in over, say, a 2 loss Tennessee.

But yes, a results-driven playoff system would create more parity. It comes close to playing out like that, already: the top 3 SEC teams this year and the top 3 ACC teams are all in the playoff hunt.

 

[ProudVOLfan]

Isn’t it amazing how balanced this conference is when all the teams can pay players like Alabama has been doing for decades?

No one can convince me that this didn't play a part in Saban retiring

 

[Power_Sweep_Vol]

No one can convince me that this didn't play a part in Saban retiring

It played a part, but not because they lost some competitive advantage. It was because of all the NIL bs, players allowed to xfer at will, and garbage like the LANK fiasco...he just said, "F it...I didnt sign up for this"

 

[BanditVol]

unlikely,but anything is possible

 

[hUTch2002]

And Georgia too !! Funny how Satan left conveniently after NIL and no one investigates this university, but hunt down UT got McDonalds Money when I clearly remember seeing a video of Alabama player's cars, lots being over 40k cars.

It’s funny how once UGA played a tough schedule they started losing some games. Anyone would’ve lost 2+ games with their schedule.

 

[sami]

Well, the national media is doing their best to shame the "committee" into keeping 3-loss SEC teams out. Here's d-bag Big 10 apologist extraordinaire Dennis Dodd referring to the 3-loss SEC teams as 'mediocre', while never mentioning how piss poor the Big 10 is aside from four teams. Hey Dennis, you think lack of depth in a conference would lead to a lot of easy wins and no cannibalizing?

College Football Playoff's credibility taking a hit as race is littered with mediocre contenders down stretch

Maybe ballooning the field to 12 teams went a little overboard ... at least for this season

www.cbssports.com

 

[sami]

That is going to make someone playing an SEC schedule equal to someone playing an ACC schedule? Won't even make intra conference schedule equal. You will never be able to get away from an evaluation process like we have now...

I'd love for SEC teams to play a Big 10 schedule and would bet that even the middle of the road schools here like USCe and Florida would be 10-2 in that joke conference.

The whole idea of the playoff is a f***king joke with teams like Indiana and Penn State probably hosting games when they would be 4-5 loss teams in the SEC. Hell, Ohio State would be a 2-3 loss team here.

 

[Delmar]

Watch finebaum. He is the catalyst for all things bama and Georgia

Ain’t nothing going on on Finebaum except Bama getting absolutely roasted by everybody.