Does UT Compare with Stanford vs. Oregon?

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Replay on EspnU Sat 6pm.
Stanford had RSFreshman QB, and a smaller and less experienced OLine than UT's 2013 line. Avg passing attack, and less speed on D relative to Oregon's O.
Cardinal handled the mighty and #2 ranked Ducks.
Guarantee Butch will watch.
Are we really 25-point underdogs to Oregon?
 
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Stanford has been far more successful in recent years than UT, I don't understand this comparison and why it continues to pop up. The only game on our schedule this year tougher than Oregon is Bama. No one's posting reasons why we're going to beat Bama, or Florida (better chance to win, IMO) I can't for the life of me understand why people truly think we're going to win at Autzen. I'm excited and want to see us compete, I'm pulling for the W, but if we lose I'm not going to be crushed. Oregon won more games last season than we have in the previous 2. That's EMBARRASSING
 
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The comparison comes from Stanford is the closest thing to SEC style football. The only way to beat the ducks is to rough them up at both lines of scrimmage. If we can run and limit their run we got a chance.
 
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chad4930 said:
The comparison comes from Stanford is the closest thing to SEC style football. The only way to beat the ducks is to rough them up at both lines of scrimmage. If we can run and limit their run we got a chance.
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I get it, but does that mean Vandy could beat Oregon? I mean they're in the SEC and play SEC style football?

Seriously guys, let's look at Stanford's past few seasons...

Year:W-L
2012:12-2
2011:11-2
2010:12-1

We are NOT Stanford. I'm not trying to be buzz killington, but seriously I just don't get this comparison.
 
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We did a really good job introducing Oregon to SEC football a couple of years ago in Neyland. I am hoping this one doesn't get ugly. Oregon is DANGEROUS.
 
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Not trying to argue, but one point he brought up is a good topic. Are we really a good 25 point underdog, worse or better in the point spread. Such as we may lose by 14/25/42 for example.
 
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the one said:
Not trying to argue, but one point he brought up is a good topic. Are we really a good 25 point underdog, worse or better in the point spread. Such as we may lose by 14/25/42 for example.
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Point spreads are designed to get even betting on both sides.

So, approx half of the betting public thinks Tennessee is a 25 point dog. Half don't
 
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VolFan4Life87 said:
Stanford has been far more successful in recent years than UT, I don't understand this comparison and why it continues to pop up. The only game on our schedule this year tougher than Oregon is Bama. No one's posting reasons why we're going to beat Bama, or Florida (better chance to win, IMO) I can't for the life of me understand why people truly think we're going to win at Autzen. I'm excited and want to see us compete, I'm pulling for the W, but if we lose I'm not going to be crushed. Oregon won more games last season than we have in the previous 2. That's EMBARRASSING
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Grasping at straws............
 
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the one said:
99gator you gave a good reply. You try to be nice thanks brother
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Shouldn't even have said half of the public.

It's really half of the money.

1000000 people could bet a dollar to take the points. 1 man could bet 1000000 to lay the points
 
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the one said:
Not trying to argue, but one point he brought up is a good topic. Are we really a good 25 point underdog, worse or better in the point spread. Such as we may lose by 14/25/42 for example.
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Oregon beat us by 35 in 2010...I'd say 25 isn't a bad spread, sadly.
 
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I look at Stanford's program right now and I think to myself "this is exactly what I want Tennessee's football program to look like!" They're tough, physical, blue collar, and they physically beat the hell out of their opponents! When Dooley was fired, Coach David Shaw was the FIRST guy I wanted us to go after (I never thought Gruden was realistic).

Right now, there is no comparison between us and Stanford! They are the upper class of college football right now.
 
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VolFan4Life87 said:
Stanford has been far more successful in recent years than UT, I don't understand this comparison and why it continues to pop up. The only game on our schedule this year tougher than Oregon is Bama. No one's posting reasons why we're going to beat Bama, or Florida (better chance to win, IMO) I can't for the life of me understand why people truly think we're going to win at Autzen. I'm excited and want to see us compete, I'm pulling for the W, but if we lose I'm not going to be crushed. Oregon won more games last season than we have in the previous 2. That's EMBARRASSING
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i think that is an over statement. i think bama florida uga and usc are all tougher games than oregon. but i do agree without getting some (a lot) of breaks i cant imagine this game being closer than 17
 
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They will beat us but not by 25, the big OL will make a game out of it and in the 4th quarter the Ducks will fly a little higher than us and sail away.:)
 
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I think it's interesting that UT and O have had nearly the same ranked recruiting classes over the last 4 years. We should both putting the same talent on the field but that isn't the case. We have had some serious turnover in players either leaving early for the NFL or some other reason. They have a new year coach and so do we.
 
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xpsyclonex2002 said:
I think it's interesting that UT and O have had nearly the same ranked recruiting classes over the last 4 years. We should both putting the same talent on the field but that isn't the case. We have had some serious turnover in players either leaving early for the NFL or some other reason. They have a new year coach and so do we.
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Oregon has the system and coaches in place that develops the players. Star rating is just potential. Coaching and conditioning fulfills the potential and in some cases exceeds. That Jones brought most of his past staff with him gives me the feeling that he has his "system" down to a mean, athlete developing machine ready to turn UT into a power house once more. :rock:
 
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Look at the recruiting of us and Stanford since 2009.

Tennessee- 2009-#10, 2010-#9, 2011-#13 2012-#17, 2013-#21

Stanford- 2009-#20, 2010-#26, 2011-#22, 2012-#5, 2013-#63

So I think we have better talent than Stanford so why can't we compare them to us the only reason they have been better than us to me is because of way better coaching.
 
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Autzen is very loud and a tough place to play. We won't have a lot of fans there, so we'll see how this team deals. I think we'll keep it closer than 25, but it will be a tough game.

The Ducks won big in Neyland 2010, because our players got discouraged and let them score at will. After the long lightning delays, and the Ducks coming back strong, we just seemed to deflate. Everyone wanted that game to be over. You could feel it in the air.
 
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LA Vol said:
Autzen is very loud and a tough place to play. We won't have a lot of fans there, so we'll see how this team deals. I think we'll keep it closer than 25, but it will be a tough game.

The Ducks won big in Neyland 2010, because our players got discouraged and let them score at will. After the long lightning delays, and the Ducks coming back strong, we just seemed to deflate. Everyone wanted that game to be over. You could feel it in the air.
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That's just about every second half under the Fooley tenure. I think they ate lasagna and smoked on something during half time because they always came back sluggish and half asleep; except the MSU game last year - it was reverse.
 
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For you nimrods who are looking at recruiting numbers please stop!

Some teams recruit to needs, not how many stars they have. If Bama had the #1 HS QB coming on campus this Fall, do you think he beats out McCarron? Not on your life. It's not all about stars and recruiting rankings, it's about fit.
 
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