Donald Trump Is Putin's Man

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BowlBrother85 said:
Then you know that it's not a matter of opinion. He was describing, in a matter-of-fact, first person account, how he concluded that the SolarWinds hack had been conducted by a group that was of a Russian-based origin.
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Again. His OPINION. Not a fact. You seem to fail to understand that. His first person account was never completely verified or anything. Remember, “likely” is way different than “absolutely.”
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Trump only levied sanctions against Putin, when Congress had passed a bill with a veto-proof majority. The propaganda you posted also mentioned the Javelin missiles for the Ukraine which they couldn't even use per the terms of the sale. You posted nothing but garbage.

The point is that none of you can explain why Donald Trump publicly sided with Vladimir Putin's denial, against his own Secretary of State. It doesn't make any sense. You want tp whine about left-wing suspicions that Trump is a Russian asset, when in reality, Trump has never done anything but confirm those suspicions. Your state of denial is amusing to me.
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Trump is a Russian agent...lmao

You have issues.
 
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1st time coming to this dumb thread.

Trump is the only guy elected as president since Reagan that was not a paid for career politician. Nobody owns him...not Russia...not the GOP...nobody. Is he a brash dude, sometimes embarrassing himself? Yep.

Best POTUS in my lifetime. Put AMERICA 1st....not his wallet or party even.

Dumb thread.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
1st time coming to this dumb thread.

Trump is the only guy elected as president since Reagan that was not a paid for career politician. Nobody owns him...not Russia...not the GOP...nobody. Is he a brash dude, sometimes embarrassing himself? Yep.

Best POTUS in my lifetime. Put AMERICA 1st....not his wallet or party even.

Dumb thread.
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Real talk
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Just wanna point out that CHINA was specifically called out for hacking solarwinds....no likely language here meaning definitive proof not guessing...so it seems the cyber security community has no problem directly accusing a country as opposed to weak guessing style language
SolarWinds 0-day gave Chinese hackers privileged access to customer servers
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This was an absolutely clueless post.

The only time that the word "likely" was used in describing the degree of certainty that a hacking group of Russian-origin was responsible for imbedding malicious code into the SolarWinds Orion Platform, was in the joint statement released by the NSA, FBI, CISA and the ODNI. They do pick and choose their words carefully, while Microsoft does not. Your link doesn't make any reference to a statement by those agencies at all. It only mentions the conclusion of Microsoft.

Here is what you are missing :

Microsoft never used language such as "likely" when describing their degree of certainty over Russia's involvement in the hacking of SolarWinds Orion either.

The President of Microsoft, Brad Smith, and the CEO of Fire Eye, Kevin Mandia, were both very forceful that a Russian-based hacking group under the direction of Russian military intelligence was responsible for imbedding malicious code into the SolarWinds Orion platform. There was no "guessing" language involved by the executives from those businesses, just as is the case in the article you linked concerning a China-based hacking group.

In fact, I have posted numerous videos and linked articles in this thread, in which Kevin Mandia of Fire Eye gives a very specific explanation of how he knew that Russian spies were responsible for the SolarWinds Orion hack. He definitely gave more specific detail than anything found in that shallow article that you posted. Russian spies were responsible for hacking SolarWinds Orion.

That is not in dispute by anyone at this point.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
1st time coming to this dumb thread.

Trump is the only guy elected as president since Reagan that was not a paid for career politician. Nobody owns him...not Russia...not the GOP...nobody. Is he a brash dude, sometimes embarrassing himself? Yep.

Best POTUS in my lifetime. Put AMERICA 1st....not his wallet or party even.

Dumb thread.
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That is a crock.

Donald Trump sold influence to the highest bidders by way of countless emoluments clause violations involving his golf resort properties and his DC hotel. He is not only the worst President of my lifetime, but the worst human being to serve as President as well.

Donald Trump is Vladimir Putin's puppet. He proves it all the time.

Dumb post.
 
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Orangeburst said:
Trump is a Russian agent...lmao

You have issues.
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I didn't say that Trump was a Russian agent.

I said that Donald Trump publicly sided with Vladimir Putin's denial of Russian involvement in the hacking of SolarWinds, over the conclusions of his own hand-picked Attorney General and his Secretary of State, as well as the United States Intelligence Community ...

... and he did.

I think there are issues with anyone who is too blinded by tribalism to see the problem with that. Once again. if you don't like my posts, put me on ignore. It won't hurt my feelings. I have even less respect for you, than what you have for me.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Trump is a Russian asset. If you don't like my posts ... Ignore them! Trust me when I say that it won't hurt my feelings. I have even less respect for you, than you have for me!
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No more or less than Bush and Obama were assets to Russia . Hot mics , looking into his soul and whatnot.
 
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0nelilreb said:
No more or less than Bush and Obama were assets to Russia . Hot mics , looking into his soul and whatnot.
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Did either George W. Bush or Barack Obama ever side with Vladimir Putin's denial of Russian responsibility for hacking American targets? No, they did not. That is a false equivalency.

They did both speak of hitting a reset button with Russia ... and while that was a gross error on their part, it is not the same thing as taking Putin's side after Russian spies attacked American federal agencies and businesses with cyber espionage.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Did either George W. Bush or Barack Obama ever side with Vladimir Putin's denial of Russian responsibility for hacking American targets? No, they did not. That is a false equivalency.

They did both speak of hitting a reset button with Russia ... and while that was a gross error on their part, it is not the same thing as taking Putin's side after Russian spies attacked American federal agencies and businesses with cyber espionage.
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Doing nothing quietly is better than doing something publicly ?

Mueller's report looks bad for Obama | CNN

You know it got bad when CNN is having to call out Obama
 
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0nelilreb said:
Doing nothing quietly is better than doing something publicly ?

Mueller's report looks bad for Obama | CNN

You know it got bad when CNN is having to call out Obama
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You are trying to play "what-about-ism", but it's just not the same thing as taking Putin's side. You are talking about something totally unrelated.

Obama has explained that he was very concerned, probably too concerned, about the optics of his administration getting involved in the 2016 election. That just isn't the same thing as defending Putin and taking Putin's side over your own Secretary of State. That is not to say that Obama didn't make mistakes, or that he shouldn't have been more proactive. He was trying not to appear as though he was pressing his thumb on the scale for Hillary Clinton.

Trump should not have take Putin's side. I feel like your side should be mature enough to acknowledge that. If you can't, that's fine but don't reply to me again. We will just have to agree to disagree.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You are trying to play "what-about-ism", but it's just not the same thing as taking Putin's side. You are talking about something totally unrelated.

Obama has explained that he was very concerned, probably too concerned, about the optics of his administration getting involved in the 2016 election. That just isn't the same thing as defending Putin and taking Putin's side over your own Secretary of State. That is not to say that Obama didn't make mistakes, or that he shouldn't have been more proactive. He was trying not to appear as though he was pressing his thumb on the scale for Hillary Clinton.

Trump should not have take Putin's side. I feel like your side should be mature enough to acknowledge that. If you can't, that's fine but don't reply to me again. We will just have to agree to disagree.
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I literally said Trump was no more or less of an asset to Russia than the other two . I’ll tell you like your crabby ass has been telling others , you can put me on ignore or just not open this thread but I’ll reply to you and your one trick pony Trump hate when I get ready to . mmkay sparky ?
 
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0nelilreb said:
I literally said Trump was no more or less of an asset to Russia than the other two . I’ll tell you like your crabby ass has been telling others , you can put me on ignore or just not open this thread but I’ll reply to you and your one trick pony Trump hate when I get ready to . mmkay sparky ?
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That is ridiculous.

You have been drawing false equivalencies with the other two, because you think it lessens the fact that Trump just took sides with a Russian dictator over the hacking of the American federal government and American private businesses.

The actions/inactions which you have cited from George W. Bush and Barack Obama do not compare with Trump's defense of Putin over the SolarWinds Orion hack. Trump took the denial of Putin over the conclusions reached by his own Secretary of State and Attorney. That was unconscionable.

mmkay?
 
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