Dont blame Peterman

[OrangeSquid]

And went right over 2 eligible receivers

There were two receivers right where he threw the ball

I give up.
Y'all are right the Vol that was standing right next to where the ball landed isn't relevant.
Any overthrown pass that doesn't make the line of scrimmage is now grounding.

Better not throw that screen pass at the RB's feet anymore. Make sure you be careful on those bubble screens too. Got to catch them.

All of these are relevant. It was a BS grounding call. There were 2 receivers in the area, he was outside the tackles, and conceivably trying to make a play out of nothing. No, it did not cross the line of scrimmage, but; IIRC, the one receiver was behind the line of scrimmage. Intentional grounding is trying to avoid a sack by throwing away the ball with the 3 items above (inside the tackles, ball doesn't cross the LOS, and no receiver in the area)as criteria. JMO

 

[Roustabout]

At least put your QB in a good spot. On his 2nd series they threw the ball 1st and 2nd down. And they were throws where the QB had to have time for play to develop.

The result was 3rd and 10. Grounding call was wrong (amount others) as not only was there a receiver in the area, the trajectory of ball was due to getting hit while throwing.

 

[JonGrudensAgent]

I blame Dooley for recruiting him.

He is the root of every problem for this team and for any Vols team for the next 20 years with some of the fan base.

The fact that there was actually some level of discussion of starting him instead of Worley amongst this staff concerns me more than a little.

 

[TAF]

 

[alaVOL]

I started this thread because a lot of people on here have blamed Peterman with the fumbled handoff in the endzone. I have read on several threads that he botched 2 handoffs, or screwed up in the end zone. Peterman was NOT IN THE GAME during that series.

Worley handed it off to Hurd. Peterman was on the bench. Don't make it worse than it was.

True that Peterman wasn't involved in that play. One thing is certain however, that Worley is the man for sure. Peterman may show out in practice but Worley's calm or experience makes so much difference. For all those in love with the backup quarterback, forget that argument till next year.

 

[VOLorNuttin]

It was correct. The ball never crossed the line of scrimmage.

I don't understand how a QB can be in the process of being sacked in the pocket, but if his arm is moving forward before the ball comes out, it's an incomplete pass. They don't call a grounding penalty in that situation, even though the ball doesn't cross the LOS.

Peterman was throwing to a receiver near the LOS and was hit as he was throwing, which kept the ball from crossing the LOS. So, I don't know how they can call that "Intentional Grounding." If you are hit as you are delivering the ball, there should be no intentional grounding call, under any circumstance.

It should only occur if you get rid of it BEFORE contact, not during.

 

[Falcons02]

You mean he didn't complete that pass? How DARE he. How DARE he defile my beloved Volunteers as those large angry men try to turn him into a human pretzel.

Human Pretzels will be tasty when the zombie apocalypse hits. Maybe ole Pete was just getting a head start on the fun.

 

[volfan2024]

On to the Florida game but would like to point out what Tim saw/said.

The critical call against Peterman for illegal grounding that cost us a penalty was wrong.

The critical fumble we had clearly recovered when we were on the ground and Georgia took it away wrong.

Also seems there was a comment about if you call a fair catch and do not go after the ball it is a penalty.

 

[utvolpj]

If he said all that he only got 1 out of 3 correct.

Don't worry, I don't expect you to respond

 

[KBVol]

The grounding call was BS as well.

Thought it was called because the ball didn't make it back to the line of scrimmage.

 

[tm3]

9 attempts for 20 yards is solid?

Tack on a 14 yard loss and a fumble.

That's 6 total yards and a turnover.

he was referencing the UF game last year, when the OL was desperately trying to get everyone lined up right and peterman on the same page with the snap count. right before his first turnover, followed by 2 more.

peterman. rock solid, baby.

 

[tm3]

I started this thread because a lot of people on here have blamed Peterman with the fumbled handoff in the endzone. I have read on several threads that he botched 2 handoffs, or screwed up in the end zone. Peterman was NOT IN THE GAME during that series.

Worley handed it off to Hurd. Peterman was on the bench. Don't make it worse than it was.

Worley reportedly checked to that play, in the end zone on the road and it was LOUD. UT coaches should have called TO at light speed.

definitely not on peterman.

 

[volfan4lyfe]

With respect to that point worley has been blitzed a ton too but i think his pre snap reads are lightyears ahead of peterman. I dont think nate does a great job seeing the pressure coming and calling his protection shifts and then hes pretty slow to find his receivers after the snap. His pure talent is as good or better than worley he just has to learn the other aspects of the game. Its still early in his career but its gonna be on him big time next year to develop.

I think a lot of the issues that Peterman has can be attributed (in most part, but not all) to his lack of game experience. Was he bad? Yeah. Was he detecting blitzes? Heck no. Was the O-Line helping him out? No.

If he had the same amount of game experience as Dobbs or Worley, I would expect MUCH more out of him. But in his defense, his only game experience is playing in a hostile atmosphere away from Neyland. He still has a long way to go in his development, but I cannot write him off just yet.

I think if Peterman is named the starter heading into next year and gets the cupcake games out of the way, we will see a Peterman who can detect a blitz, who is comfortable going through reads with the 1s, and who is more comfortable in general handing the ball of to the 1s.

Its always got to be tough for the backup quarterback to enter the game and take command of players that he has little practice time with. IMO. JMO. GBO.

 

[KBVol]

Peterman didn't look great but in fairness the uga D was pinning their ears back and blitzing him the entire time he was on the field.

World of difference between him and Worley. Justin was confident, knew where to go with the ball, got it out on time and accurately in the face of similar pressure many times. And then there was Peterman....the exact opposite.

 

[allenrikvik]

Peterman would brought in cold into a tough spot, then UGA blitzed on every play. I do not think it would have gotten better through the game, but at least be marginally fair on his performance.

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

Peterman would brought in cold into a tough spot, then UGA blitzed on every play. I do not think it would have gotten better through the game, but at least be marginally fair on his performance.

That's what back up QB's do. That's the job description. Always be ready. What you stated can not be an excuse. FTR Peterman was not cold because UGA had a series before he came in.

 

[govols/cc]

Yep. He was constantly seeing Georgia players in his face. Of course there are people on VN who still say he sucks. Probably the same people who said Worley played like garbage.

He was a train wreck last year against Florida & cost us any chance to win. Yesterday you would've thought he hasn't practiced at any time since. He's a terrible qb.

 

[pharmDvol11]

I'm with the OP. I don't blame Peterman at all. Personally I don't think the offense put him in a good position to succeed when he came in. The line didn't block well while he was in there. I blame the blocking for the grounding call. The playcalling seemed to change as well. They got away from the short passes and when they called it the receivers dropped them. I don't think the team was prepared for him to play at all. That needs to change. It really does

 

[JMSqb11]

If that punt rolls into the endzone we get ball on 25 instead. They don't get a freebie on endzone fumble. stuff that makes ya say....really

Of course, if North makes that catch one handed, we don't worry about that fumble.

 

[pharmDvol11]

Of course, if North makes that catch one handed, we don't worry about that fumble.

I remember North dropped another much easier pass from Peterman as well. It really upset me bc I knew what some ppl were thinking when they saw Peterman come in there

 

[Vol865]

It was correct. The ball never crossed the line of scrimmage.

This

 

[GameTime]

Peterman has been defined by 2 moments...Both bad.

 

[gordonr24]

I blame Dooley for recruiting him.

He is the root of every problem for this team and for any Vols team for the next 20 years with some of the fan base.

The fact that there was actually some level of discussion of starting him instead of Worley amongst this staff concerns me more than a little.

Butch Jones recruited Peterman too. Peterman narrowed his choices to Cincy and UT before choosing UT.

I feel confident in the staff's abilities to coach up Peterman, much like Worley has been.

 

[jonnon111]

You're right, we cant blame Peterman for being unprepared to go into a game. No way he could have imagined that he may be needed this year with the great play of this amazing OLine. . . oh wait.

:loco:

 

[Sudden Impact]

He takes too much time to be successful with this OL. I don't think it is going to change.