Don't sleep on Brady Hoke & Michigan

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The Big Ten now has twelve teams while the Big 12 has ten...what madness is this??
Although the Big Ten Conference is suffering from an identity crisis Brady Hoke has rekindled Michigan fan's enthusiasm and HS recruits (currently ranked #2 Scouts & #5 ESPN) alike as he strives to raise a legendary program back to prominence.

Timing is everything and Michigan, with 11 National Titles, the most all-time wins (882), and highest winning percentage (.735) in college football history, looks to benefit from rival OSU's troubles.

While OSU and Michigan will always have their rivalry---there's a new kid on the block---it will be interesting to see what impact Nebraska will have...HC Bo Pelini has the Cornhusker's making noise and on the rise again. With both UM and UN in the Legends Division there's no doubt, this definitely has the makings of a bitter, hard fought---"3 yards and a pile of dust" rivalry.

The Conference is split into two divisions---Legends Division (Iowa, Michigan, Mich St. Minnesota, Nebraska, and Northwestern) and Leaders Division (Illinois, Indiana, OSU, Penn St., Purdue and Wisconsin)---the winner of each will play for the Big Ten Conference Title and automatic BCS Bowl bid.

Whether it's OSU's scarlet red or Nebraska's, the Maze and Blue seem determined to rebuild a proud, tradition rich program, pursue a 43rd Conference Title (42nd -2004) and too, reclaim their spot amongst college football's elite.

Don't sleep on Brady Hoke and Michigan...

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um has not won a nat. championship since the Korean War.

They have won 2 Big Ten championships in the 2000's.

They are currently in the middle of a 3 year probation for cheating.


Their new coach is an arrogant azz, and looks like fred flintstone.

(EDIT) but they will find an excuse for not winning again this year.

yeah. dont sleep on em.
 
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GatorBill said:
um has not won a nat. championship since the Korean War.

They have won 2 Big Ten championships in the 2000's.

They are currently in the middle of a 3 year probation for cheating.


Their new coach is an arrogant azz, and looks like fred flintstone.

(EDIT) but they will find an excuse for not winning again this year.

yeah. dont sleep on em.
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Brady Hoke will have them in BCS games in 3 years or less. Book it!
 
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GatorBill said:
um has not won a nat. championship since the Korean War.

They have won 2 Big Ten championships in the 2000's.

They are currently in the middle of a 3 year probation for cheating.


Their new coach is an arrogant azz, and looks like fred flintstone.

(EDIT) but they will find an excuse for not winning again this year.

yeah. dont sleep on em.
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they are the winningest program of all time. like USC before pete carroll. all they need is the right coach. and the korean war happened in 1997?
 
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droski said:
they are the winningest program of all time. like USC before pete carroll. all they need is the right coach. and the korean war happened in 1997?
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Im taking a Coaches vote over a Media Vote.

1901 Fielding H. Yost Helms, Holgate, NCF 11–0 Won Rose
1902 Fielding H. Yost 11–0
1903 Fielding H. Yost 11–0–1
1904 Fielding H. Yost 10–0
1918 Fielding H. Yost 5–0
1923 Fielding H. Yost 8–0
1932 Harry G. Kipke 8–0
1933 Harry G. Kipke 7–0–1
1947 Fritz Crisler 11–0 Won Rose
1948 Bennie Oosterbaan 9–0
1997 Lloyd Carr
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Even if I give you that 1/2 of a Nat Champ. The ELEVEN that they claim are hardly relevant to todays football program.

It is like saying the sCarolina is going to win the SEC because the Visor has won the SEC so many times. :loco:

um's program is currently average.
 
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yes because we all know the AP poll is considered less valid than the usa today poll (or whatever the hell it is called now).

south carolina hasn't won anything. it's not even remotely saying the same thing.
 
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droski said:
yes because we all know the AP poll is considered less valid than the usa today poll (or whatever the hell it is called now).

south carolina hasn't won anything. it's not even remotely saying the same thing.
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Your wasting your time, the guy flat out doesn't get it.
 
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droski said:
yes because we all know the AP poll is considered less valid than the usa today poll (or whatever the hell it is called now).

south carolina hasn't won anything. it's not even remotely saying the same thing.
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probably a bad comparison. But the winningest team in history counts games against American Medical, Ohio Northern, Quantico Marines, Great Lakes Navy,

aw heck. Yall are not going to understand.

Look. Everyone knows the history of u of m. It is a great history. They have won a ton of football games. I personally think that bo schembechler was one of the greatest coaches of his time. Coming from my background, that is a lot to say.

But that is the past. What Phil Fulmer did at UT has ZERO bearing on how this years team will perform. um will get some recruits because of they are michigan. But not like they used to. And the reason? because things are different. Different Coach. Different competition. Different scheduling. (um AD announced this week that he is going to a 100% patsy non-conference schedule and ND will be his only away Non-con game, for as long as he is AD)

They are not the power house they used to be. And probably never will be again.
 
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zehr27 said:
Your wasting your time, the guy flat out doesn't get it.
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oh, I get it. I cant stand the effers for many different reasons. I respect their history, but that is history, it means nothing now. Just like Charlie Baggett beating #1 O$U in 1974 means nothing to MSU today. Great story. Great to talk about. Great Memories. Will not win a football game.
 
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GatorBill said:
probably a bad comparison. But the winningest team in history counts games against American Medical, Ohio Northern, Quantico Marines, Great Lakes Navy,

aw heck. Yall are not going to understand.

Look. Everyone knows the history of u of m. It is a great history. They have won a ton of football games. I personally think that bo schembechler was one of the greatest coaches of his time. Coming from my background, that is a lot to say.

But that is the past. What Phil Fulmer did at UT has ZERO bearing on how this years team will perform. um will get some recruits because of they are michigan. But not like they used to. And the reason? because things are different. Different Coach. Different competition. Different scheduling. (um AD announced this week that he is going to a 100% patsy non-conference schedule and ND will be his only away Non-con game, for as long as he is AD)

They are not the power house they used to be. And probably never will be again.
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the only reason they wont completely dominate is the changed demographics of the mid west from the 60s to today. but i see no reason why they can't become tressel's ohio state (as an example).
 
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droski said:
the only reason they wont completely dominate is the changed demographics of the mid west from the 60s to today. but i see no reason why they can't become tressel's ohio state (as an example).
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Well, they have been caught cheating recently, so that is a start.

They have zero chance of dominating like that as long as these things are in place:

1) O$U is still in columbus
2) Mark Dantonio is still at MSU
3) 'Braska is in the Big Ten

They will be better than what RichRod took them to, but not much.
 
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they really did make a hellova hire as far recruiting goes and with OSU's troubles thats gotta be helping too
 
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droski said:
the only reason they wont completely dominate is the changed demographics of the mid west from the 60s to today. but i see no reason why they can't become tressel's ohio state (as an example).
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wait, by changed demographics from the 60's to today, are you referring to the fact that Michigan State Dominated the 60s?

um was a 70s powerhouse, but not 60s. In the 60s, the southern schools, most notably Alabama, were sending players north to play ball. Bear Bryant (allegedly) made one heck of a deal with Duffy Daugherty at MSU which had MSU helping Bama land Nameth and MSU landing George Webster.

There was still a little of that going on in the early 70s (chat with Charlie Baggett about it if you get a chance) that helped MSU land Baggett and Ty Willingham.

But um didnt get back to winning until 69 when bo came on board. And MSU didnt go down hill until Bo and Woody put them into trouble with the NCAA after the 1974 MSU win over woody (check with Charlie on that one also, he will back me up)
 
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GatorBill said:
Well, they have been caught cheating recently, so that is a start.

They have zero chance of dominating like that as long as these things are in place:

1) O$U is still in columbus
2) Mark Dantonio is still at MSU
3) 'Braska is in the Big Ten

They will be better than what RichRod took them to, but not much.
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they have first class facilities, an excellent degree to sell, and tradition arguably greater than any school out there and they've recruited in ohio very well over the years. MSU is a joke and always will be. they'll always get sloppy seconds. No one grows up dreaming of going to MSU. i can't see nebraska significantly hurting their recruiting. frankly i can't understand why anyone would want to go to nebraska over michigan.
 
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GatorBill said:
wait, by changed demographics from the 60's to today, are you referring to the fact that Michigan State Dominated the 60s?

um was a 70s powerhouse, but not 60s. In the 60s, the southern schools, most notably Alabama, were sending players north to play ball. Bear Bryant (allegedly) made one heck of a deal with Duffy Daugherty at MSU which had MSU helping Bama land Nameth and MSU landing George Webster.

There was still a little of that going on in the early 70s (chat with Charlie Baggett about it if you get a chance) that helped MSU land Baggett and Ty Willingham.

But um didnt get back to winning until 69 when bo came on board. And MSU didnt go down hill until Bo and Woody put them into trouble with the NCAA after the 1974 MSU win over woody (check with Charlie on that one also, he will back me up)
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18 year olds don't give a crap about one decade of dominance 40 years ago. i'd think you of all people would understand that. no i'm talking about the fact there are more people living in the south and in the west than before.
 
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BIG BOI 23 said:
they really did make a hellova hire as far recruiting goes and with OSU's troubles thats gotta be helping too
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O$Us troubles are certainly helping.

But hoke has a long ways to go to prove he belongs. He has said a few things that are setting himself up to be another RichRod if he doesnt win. The arrogance is strong with this one. No doubt about that.

They wanted Harbaugh and didnt get him. The spin machine will tell you a lot of things about the hire, but it was a scramble.

But yes, the O$U trouble will certainly help some other teams for a short period. MSU has gotten some great talent out of ohio this year, but they usually do pretty well there.
 
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