Dont you love Clausens modesty

[west tn vol fan]

First, lets talk about Clausen's play against Auburn. I think the whole team played better because they wanted to beat Auburn the second time. That made Clausen look better. Clausen beat Kentucky, Vanderbilt, and an overrated Texas A&M. Why would they let Erik play last year and sit him down this year. That would only hold Erik back. You let him mature by putting him out there and giving him the responsibility. Erik is the future, and you don't want to sacrifice that just because Clausen beat a few poor teams. Fulmer hasn't always started the most suitable QB. Just my opinion. B)

 

[Wittenfan2002]

Originally posted by g8terh8ter_eric@Aug 21, 2005 9:26 AM
WHO CARES......I just want to win and I don't care if its with Jim Bob Cooter....down with QB threads.......they divide the nation!!

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LOL! Lovin' the quote about Spurrier! :lol:

 

[U-T]

Originally posted by BeltwayVol@Aug 21, 2005 12:46 AM
He deserves to start until it's OBVIOUS that Ainge can be measurably better.

Ainge went to UGA and beat UGA.
He had a fantastic pass to solidify the OM game.

He has not only deserved it much more then Rick but has shown numerous intagiables that not many QB's have.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedi.../content.1.html

Love Rick but its laughable to say he deserves it and Ainge doesn't

 

[BeltwayVol]

If Ainge was measurably better.....there wouldn't be a competition.

It's amzing to me how the Clausen supporters conceede Ainge is a better athelete, but the Ainge supporters want to tear down any and everything that Clausen has done.

 

[GAVol]

Originally posted by BeltwayVol@Aug 21, 2005 9:56 PM
If  Ainge was measurably better.....there wouldn't be a competition.

It's amzing to me how the Clausen supporters conceede Ainge is a better athelete, but the Ainge supporters want to tear down any and everything that Clausen has done.

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There definitely is an element out there that doesn't seem to get that there is a legitimate QB battle going on and it's not just a sideshow before CPF ceremoniously names Ainge the starter.

Reading some of Randy Sanders' comments today, it really sounds like the UAB game is going to be split duty at QB.

 

[U-T]

Originally posted by BeltwayVol@Aug 21, 2005 8:56 PM
If  Ainge was measurably better.....there wouldn't be a competition.

It's amzing to me how the Clausen supporters conceede Ainge is a better athelete, but the Ainge supporters want to tear down any and everything that Clausen has done.

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No one is tearing down Rick.

The Clausen supporters just can't take it whenever the Ainge people point out the great things he did last year....things that we aren't sure Rick could have done.

You said Clausen should be starting unless Ainge is measurably better...we are pointing out facts that IMO show Ainge is better.

If Rick comes out and wins the job, I am all for him starting and will support him 100%. Nothing bites me ass more then people bashing a player because they like another one. I just feel that Ainge will win it out in the end. If Clausen does, good for him

 

[GAVol]

Originally posted by U-T@Aug 21, 2005 10:12 PM
If Rick comes out and wins the job, I am all for him starting and will support him 100%. Nothing bites me ass more then people bashing a player because they like another one.

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Well said . . . In the end, you have to trust that the coaches will pick the right guy and then support him. After Shuler, Manning, Martin, Clausen and the juggling act last year - I'd say our coaches have a pretty good idea of what to do with QBs.

 

[OWB]

Originally posted by GAVol@Aug 21, 2005 10:18 PM
I'd say our coaches have a pretty good idea of what to do with QBs.

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And if they don't, we can all tell them what they need to do right?

 

[GAVol]

Originally posted by Orangewhiteblood@Aug 21, 2005 10:26 PM
And if they don't, we can all tell them what they need to do right? 

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I'm sure they ALWAYS check the internet for input on personnel decisions.

 

[OWB]

If they don't, they should. The internet is a gold mine I tell ya...

 

[BeltwayVol]

U-T I DARE you to find one single post where I bashed Ainge or ANY of the things he accomplished. You don't see me explaining away his successes like the people "supporting Ainge" are. That's my point. You don't have to tear down Clausen to build up Ainge. As I have said in almost every post, Ainge is a better athelete, and is very good. I just think Fulmer will start Clausen, and I think that Clausen deserves it. (I have also NEVER said that Ainge didn't deserve it.)

So don't try to make me out to be a bad guy. You are the ones tearing down one of our players and one of the few damn players to perform well in a bowl game over the last several seasons.

 

[OrangeBerry]

Ainge will start. Accept it and move on with your life.

 

[BeltwayVol]

Very insightful.

If he did, believe it or not, my world would not fall apart like it appears that some other people here's lives would if Clausen started.

 

[BeltwayVol]

From The Nashville Newspaper.....

Ainge opened the scrimmage with the first unit and was often pressured by the defense. He was sacked a couple of times early by defensive end Jason Hall.

Ainge finished the scrimmage 10-of-20 for 91 yards. His only touchdown came in the goal-line work on a batted pass to Bret Smith.

Clausen was 10-of-15 for 180 yards and seemed to move the offense more efficiently than Ainge most of the night.

"I made some plays when they were out there, and when they weren't, kind of laid the ball off and ran the ball a little bit," Clausen said. "I threw that one bad pick at the end. I never saw the guy, but those are things you've got to see."

Clausen was intercepted during the two-minute drill by Jonathan Hefney. Ainge also had an interception when he was picked off by Antwan Stewart.

The bottom line, according to offensive coordinator Randy Sanders, is that both will almost certainly play for the Vols in the opener.

"It's a very realistic possibility that they'll both play. Now, you've got to check with the man who's got a lot more zeros on his check than I do," joked Sanders, referring to Coach Phillip Fulmer. "Is it definite? I don't know. But I think it's a very real possibility."

 

[OrangeBerry]

Very insightful.

Why? Because I can say what I think without having to type a thesis on it unlike someone I know?

If he did, believe it or not, my world would not fall apart like it appears that some other people here's lives would if Clausen started.

My world would never fall apart because of anything related to football. It's just a game. I love Tennessee football, don't get me wrong, but there are too many things going on in the world for me to fall apart because of a QB situation. Ainge will start by the way.

 

[TitanVol]

Beltway I don't see anyone on here bashing Clausen. The only thing I see is you jumping up and down whining every time someone states an opinion that you don't agree with. You should try getting over yourself. Not everyone here likes to hear what you have to say near as much as you like listening to yourself. So unless you want to come out and tell everyone else in this thread just to shut the #$% up, then I suggest you let people have their opinion.

 

[BeltwayVol]

Originally posted by OrangeBerry@Aug 21, 2005 10:42 PM


Ainge will start.  Accept it and move on with your life.

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Incase you missed it.....

"Ainge opened the scrimmage with the first unit and was often pressured by the defense. He was sacked a couple of times early by defensive end Jason Hall.

Ainge finished the scrimmage 10-of-20 for 91 yards. His only touchdown came in the goal-line work on a batted pass to Bret Smith.

Clausen was 10-of-15 for 180 yards and seemed to move the offense more efficiently than Ainge most of the night."

 

[BeltwayVol]

Originally posted by TitanVol@Aug 21, 2005 11:02 PM
Beltway I don't see anyone on here bashing Clausen. The only thing I see is you jumping up and down whining every time someone states an opinion that you don't agree with. You should try getting over yourself. Not everyone here likes to hear what you have to say near as much as you like listening to yourself. So unless you want to come out and tell everyone else in this thread just to shut the #$% up, then I suggest you let people have their opinion without getting your pink pannies in a wad.

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How very respectful you are. :good:

By the way, they are blue, not pink.

 

[OrangeBerry]

Originally posted by BeltwayVol@Aug 21, 2005 11:03 PM
Incase you missed it.....

"Ainge opened the scrimmage with the first unit and was often pressured by the defense. He was sacked a couple of times early by defensive end Jason Hall.

Ainge finished the scrimmage 10-of-20 for 91 yards. His only touchdown came in the goal-line work on a batted pass to Bret Smith.

Clausen was 10-of-15 for 180 yards and seemed to move the offense more efficiently than Ainge most of the night."

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Well, that decides it then huh? I should have known better than to doubt you Beltway. You obviously know your stuff. My bad.

But Ainge will start.

 

[BeltwayVol]

Also, they are spelled P A N T I E S, and this is a mesage board, and I don't talk to myself, or read out loud, so I don't "hear" anything when I come or post here.

 

[TitanVol]

Originally posted by BeltwayVol@Aug 21, 2005 10:04 PM
How very respectful you are.   :good:

By the way, they are blue, not pink.

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Beltway, I can respect the fact that you think Clausen will be the starter and you may be right. If so you can come back and gloat in the fact that you were one of the few that were correct. But you are the one in this thread using phrases like "I don't TRUST your assesment" and "I DARE you". These threads are just discussion not life or death debate.

For the record I do think you are right about Clausen my money is that he is the starter in at least the first two games for sure.

 

[TitanVol]

Sorry, I guess you have never spelled a word incorrectly. I'll bet you I could search your old posts and find plenty of mistakes but I am not sure I could stomach it.

And if you prefer... No one likes to READ your posts as much as you like to READ them yourself. Better?

 

[BeltwayVol]

Originally posted by TitanVol@Aug 21, 2005 11:02 PM
Beltway I don't see anyone on here bashing Clausen. The only thing I see is you jumping up and down whining every time someone states an opinion that you don't agree with. You should try getting over yourself. Not everyone here likes to hear what you have to say near as much as you like listening to yourself. So unless you want to come out and tell everyone else in this thread just to shut the #$% up, then I suggest you let people have their opinion without getting your pink pannies in a wad.

]Beltway I don't see anyone on here bashing Clausen.​

but Ainge playing opens up a few more passing options than Clausen can offer

let clausen start. who cares. it will not last long at all

I'm still not sold on Clausen. Looking back at last season, he did well against the bad secondaries and poorly against the good ones. It wasn't because he didn't know where to throw it, it was mostly because the good secondaries were fast and the throws took longer to get to the WR's.

And Ainge is measurably better

First, lets talk about Clausen's play against Auburn. I think the whole team played better because they wanted to beat Auburn the second time. That made Clausen look better. Clausen beat Kentucky, Vanderbilt, and an overrated Texas A&M.

rik is the future, and you don't want to sacrifice that just because Clausen beat a few poor teams.

He has not only deserved it much more then Rick but has shown numerous intagiables that not many QB's have.

Now. There are the comments I am talking about. I never said anyone was personally attacking him, kinda like you personally attacked me. All I said was that the Clausen supporters aren't using comments like these to push Clausen, while the Ainge supporters are having to result to these comments to make the case for Erik.

One last thing there chief. If youre one of the ones that doesn't like to "hear what I say", use that ignore button on me, that way you won't have to "hear" me.​

 

[TitanVol]

Doesn't look like bashing to me. The only thing I see are fans giving their opinion on who should start and why. Clausen has a noodle arm, now that would be bashing.

As for the ignore button, I'll do that "Chief". I'll bet many have done that already. You should be proud.

 

[BeltwayVol]

I am.

Hate that you will miss my gloating.

LOL